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News Item11/23/2020 2:49 AM
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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Greek for church
ekklésia: an ASSEMBLY, a (religious) congregation
the Bible clearly says not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together
Unless Providentially hindered you stand in disobedience to not assemble with a body of believers.
I must away and get ready for meeting shortly. Don't forget the other part of the exhortation, brother. Later.....

Hebrews 10:24-27 KJV
(24)  And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
(25)  Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
(26)  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(27)  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.


News Item11/23/2020 2:44 AM
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What I'm saying, Sister B, is that what happened at Pentecost was no legalistic thing, as though these brand new Christians were putting themselves under a whole new set of rules and regulations. No, they had become a new creature in Christ Jesus; it was a work of the Holy Spirit. They were transformed by God. If they had a love, care and compassion, as Jewish believers under the law, they now had the same thing greatly enhanced under grace, being filled with the Spirit and having a new heart, so that God led them into walking in his ways more perfectly, as the prophet described.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 KJV
(26)  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
(27)  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

This was no experiment, it was God at work.

Acts 2:45 KJV
(45)  And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 4:32 KJV
(32)  And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.


News Item11/22/2020 5:12 PM
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I do not believe that the Christians at Jerusalem sat down and formulated their ideas into a 'system' or a 'theological concept'. Rather, the Holy Spirit filled them all (which was a new thing) and they all submitted themselves to the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. cf. Acts 2:42.

1 John 3:14 KJV
(14)  We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Even without the teaching on it, which came much later, the Jerusalem church nonetheless, with love for others in their company, being born again and having passed from death to life, they ensured that every one had sustenance and assistance when needed. They knew this, from the OT scriptures which they heard read in the synagogue every sabbath. But now, the law of God was greatly enhanced in their illuminated minds, and it was no longer a slavish obedience, but the reality of a changed heart, even a new heart.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 KJV
(26)  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. Also read v27.

To be continued tomorrow, although I have a 4hr meeting to chair.


News Item11/22/2020 3:47 PM
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I said that the Herrnhut experience was an aside, but most relevant because it was a product of God's providence and the working of the Holy Spirit in power.

In God's providence, Christians of all stripes who were being persecuted, arrived at Herrnhut, seeking sanctuary. Reformed, Baptists, Brethren, and so on, were all helped by Von Zinzendorf, who allowed them to live on his land.

These were all zealous Christians, and it was not long before arguments broke out. Please take note of that. And please take note of what happened when the Spirit of God moved through the meeting, as described in the last post.

The Spirit of God always fills with love, those whom he fills. It is a good test, you can apply it to anyone.

Note also that these Christians did not sit back and sponge off of Zinzendorf. They attended to spiritual life and they attended to their day to day life, working and ensuring that all were catered for, including any widows, orphans, or those who were sick. It was the Spirit who produced this in them, which is why it is worth comparing them with the early church at Jerusalem. I believe Herrnhut is a great example of what happens when the Spirit of God is active.

Without the Spirit, we go a bit wonky.


News Item11/22/2020 2:25 PM
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[On August 13, 1727, at a baptism and communion service, the Holy Spirit moved through the room. Differences dissolved. All embraced one another in forgiveness and a spirit of love. Christ became central to their thinking. They established a twenty-four hour around-the-clock prayer vigil which lasted one hundred years. The fervent prayers resulted in the sending out of missionaries to many lands--the first Protestant missions outside Europe and North America. Thus Herrnhut reached out and touched other lands. Moravians influenced John and Charles Wesley. Moravian missionary zeal prompted William Carey's efforts to reach India for Christ. "See what these Moravians have done," he said in his appeal to have missionaries commissioned.
Herrnhut was a busy and industrious place. Spinning, weaving, carpentry, pottery, farming and missionary training went on unceasingly. Each evening Zinzendorf selected a scripture to be the watchword for the next day. Often he wrote a hymn to accompany the word. Saturdays and Sundays were days of prayer and worship. Almost every day, each band met to exhort, reprove and pray for one another. Single women and single men lived in separate buildings. In a special home, the children of missionaries were cared for.]

An aside but relevant.


News Item11/22/2020 2:15 PM
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B. McCausland wrote:
The holy Spirit did not lead the church into communism at Pentecost. Proof of that is how we read later in the epistles the teaching of Paul exhorting people into enterprise, and not to be lazy but work with their own hands and have enough to distribute to others. This is capitalism.
Proving that the Holy Spirit did not lead the church into communism at Pentecost is rather pointless, because no-one here has suggested that. I prefer to stick to scripture rather than bring in man made ideologies or politics. However, I agree with that statement. So what did the Holy Spirit lead the church into at Pentecost?

The Spirit did not bring them into anything different from the old covenant regarding the treatment of the poor within their societies. God had already explained that to them in 'the law' and presumably they were already doing that (or were they?).

Please note, these converted Jews were permitted to maintain their religion and their festivals etc. while under Roman occupation, so I am not (nor will I) talk about national politics, applicable in a country. What I'm talking about is what the Holy Ghost did amongst God's people, in their relation with others of God's people. Sister B, please note that.


News Item11/22/2020 12:50 PM
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Over the years there have been a few fellows who made mention of a theological concept called Replacement Theology. They described this in disparaging terms, saying that some believed the Christian church replaced the Jews Religion, so that the Jews were done, and Christianity was new and different.

But my claim is that Christianity was and is, the fulfilment of the Jews religion, as is easily proved by comparing types and antitypes.

Therefore, when multitudes of Jews were converted at and beyond Pentecost, they were instructed by the Holy Ghost concerning this. For example, they saw that Jesus was the Messiah, the final High Priest, and when this Lamb of God was sacrificed at Calvary, it was a once for all sacrifice for sin never to be repeated again. Of course there was a transition period until the fulfilment of their religion finally took hold. This is quite understandable. But you can see the very point in time when old covenant changed to new covenant, because God tore the veil in the temple from top to bottom, showing that the old way of doing things had finally come to an end, being only a picture of the heavenly temple and mercy seat, which places were spiritual not physical.

I believe it important to grasp this for what comes next.


News Item11/22/2020 11:32 AM
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Before looking more closely at what happened at Pentecost, here are some scriptures which deal with the subject.

Acts 2:42-47, Acts 4:34-37, Acts 5:1-2, Acts 11:29, Luke 12:33-34, Luke 18:22, Luke 19:8.

And a few more dealing with the poor.

Psalm 112:9, Proverbs 11:24-25, Proverbs 19:17, Ecclesiastes 11:1-2, Isaiah 58:7-12, 2 Corinthians 9:1, 9, 1 Timothy 6:18-19, James 2:14-16, James 5:1-5, 1 John 3:17.

According to God's blueprint for his people, there was to be a consideration of the poor and needy; it is a part of what is known as 'the law'. It is not a new thing which emerged at Pentecost, but the law of God written so clearly on men's hearts there that they could not ignore it; neither did they want to ignore it. The Spirit of God opened up a new vista of his ways, and the Jewish converts all became a temple of God, both individually and corporately, and became more fully aware of God's will and how to interpret the law.

During his ministry, Jesus lamented that the Jews did not see the depths of the law, and so he expounded them and expanded their vision. Two laws sufficed to be called the great commandments: to love God and to love others. Which means:

To not love is sin, and sin brings death.


News Item11/22/2020 7:43 AM
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The Quiet Christian wrote:
First, there have to be facts. But when truth became relative rather than absolute, now there are no facts because nothing is true. The former President is only suggesting a government-enforced system of belief. I think a good example is the PRC's system...is that what anyone wants to live under?
Quiet Brother, it is a rhetorical question, but I will still answer it with an emphatic NO. I would rather live under the counter-culture of Jesus Christ. But I'm not sure if any country is doing that today.

News Item11/22/2020 7:37 AM
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I believe all churches will eventually be empty, unless they realise that they are responsible for feeding their sheep and leading them into a deeper sacrifice in their life, irrespective of complaints from the pew. If people will not follow Jesus Christ, let them go, they will only badly affect the others who do desire to follow Jesus Christ with all their heart.

Those church buildings which maintain an attendance, will most likely be full of pseudo Christians, who have no intention whatever of obeying the Bible, and their motto is, "Do Whatever You Want".


News Item11/22/2020 7:29 AM
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It doesn't bother me what she calls me. She is simply wrong, and God will tell her that one day unless she repents and turns to Jesus Christ for forgiveness and salvation. The CoE is filling up with tares, as genuine believers leave it in search of good pasture.

News Item11/22/2020 7:21 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
The holy Spirit did not lead the church into communism at Pentecost. Proof of that is how we read later in the epistles the teaching of Paul exhorting people into enterprise, and not to be lazy but work with their own hands and have enough to distribute to others. This is capitalism.
Well I really must make a start.

Firstly I do not see much wrong with the above statement.

However, let us look more closely.

Every country has politics, and politics determines how the country is run and people live. So in the Day of Pentecost, at Jerusalem, what was the political scenario that the Jews were living under. I'm thinking mainly of the Christian Jews. I will need some scholarly type here to answer the questions.

Could a Jew operate his own business? Was he allowed to make more money than his next door neighbour? Were the Jews who were converted at Pentecost and beyond lazy good for nothings waiting on handouts (cf. Matthew 6:11, 28-34)? Can what the Holy Spirit produced in all their hearts be in any way compared to 21st century communism? Does any thought in God's own heart compare in any way to 21st century communism? Is 21st century communism found anywhere in the Bible? Thank you.


News Item11/22/2020 4:15 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
Again, John, sad to say, but your hermeneutics are wrong.

The holy Spirit did not lead the church into communism at Pentecost. Proof of that is how we read later in the epistles the teaching of Paul exhorting people into enterprise, and not to be lazy but work with their own hands and have enough to distribute to others. This is capitalism.

Again, Sister B, sad to say, you have built another strawman to knock down rather than look at what I am actually saying. You cannot prove your assertion, which is why you never quoted anything I said.

I, on the other hand, have an assertion, and I am proving it by quoting what you actually said, word for word.

Plus, in order to promote your own personal view, you speak in negatives too much, rather like a politician. Let me quote you, and see if you can see what I am saying.

"The holy Spirit did not lead the church into communism at Pentecost."

What value is that statement?

I could just as easily say, "The Holy Spirit did not lead the church into heresy at Pentecost", but it is a worthless statement.

So then you tell me I am wrong, and when I counter that, you tell me to be quiet and not pursue the issue.

You say what you will, and so will I. Later...


News Item11/21/2020 5:28 PM
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Watcher wrote:
Also, remember that we have many things we can give besides money. I'm not rich by anyone's standards, and yet I have been given many opportunities to give of myself, time, and love. If I had copious amounts of money, I would give freely as God has given to me. Perhaps one day...
Yes, we all have wasted money on "needs", when those needs are nothing more than justified wants. God knows and is gracious and patient. Through this pandemic, we should be seeing a shift from the superficial to the eternal and having our eyes open to that which is fleeting and that which is everlasting. This is another reason why I call this pandemic a test.
It is quite possible, Watcher. There has to be a reason for it. I don't know where the counter has gone, but SA organised a full year of prayer for revival, and this could be the answer to those prayers. Difficulties may lead to great blessings for the church, even revival, just before the tribulations increase, and the Lord Jesus with all his holy angels prepares for his second advent.

Tomorrow I aim to answer another of Sister B's queries, which concerns the work of the Holy Spirit in the minds of believers in the early days of the new covenant church.


News Item11/21/2020 3:47 PM
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Thank you brethren for all your posts, I am always learning and growing, and hopefully becoming more able to give more. I feel as though I have barely begun the Christian life when I consider the waste of money I am guilty of. The Lord God, throughout scripture, has always made mention of 'the poor' and 'the needy' and 'the widow' and 'the orphan' and 'the oppressed' and he is very concerned for them, and wishes all his people to also be concerned.

It has a lot to do with faith.

I do not yet have the same faith that this woman had. Note,

Mark 12:41-44 KJV
(41)  And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
(42)  And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
(43)  And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
(44)  For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

All I can say is, "Wow!"


News Item11/21/2020 2:04 PM
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Watcher and Frank, thank you brethren, you expand the discussion out and that is good.

Money has a huge amount of power. It is difficult for the natural man to release it, and even for the spiritual man. However, we are given an insight into some words of Jesus that are not recorded in the gospels:

Acts 20:35 KJV
(35)  I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

If any man earns much, he will get more joy out of giving it away to worthy causes than if he keeps it for himself.

It is very biblical, what I am proposing. Both OT and NT have instruction from God. Note,

Isaiah 58:7-12, Matthew 25:34-40.

Here is what money can do to people:

1 Timothy 6:10 NLT
For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.

Oh what joy it is to be set free from craving money, or hoarding it up. There is no shortage of needs around the world; let us spend and be spent in the Master's service, showing by our actions that we 'love the brethren'. cf. 1 John 3:14


News Item11/21/2020 12:57 PM
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A lot of things Jesus said and taught were most unpalatable to the unregenerate mind. And so we find some following him for a time, and then when he started being radical, they turned their backs on the Son of God.

The rich young man was getting on fine with Jesus initially. But according to the law, covetousness is a sin, and this man, being wealthy, was covetous, and not willing to give up all his wealth to follow Jesus. Many are like this in various ways.

John 6:60-66 KJV
(60)  Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
(61)  When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
(62)  What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
(63)  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
(64)  But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
(65)  And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
(66)  From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.


News Item11/21/2020 5:21 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
Again, John, sad to say, but your hermeneutics are wrong.
You are making two biblical instances precepts, say the rich man's encounter with Christ and what happened at Pentecost.
Sister, you say my hermeneutics are wrong. In this you are very much mistaken. You say that I am taking the encounter of the rich man with Jesus Christ, and making it into a precept for all time. Do you really know what you are saying?

What do you take me for? A fool?

Why are you patronising me?

According to you, I am saying that for salvation, any rich man must give up all his wealth to the poor and then follow Christ.

You do realise that is salvation by works only. And you seriously believe that is what I believe? What is wrong, sister, that you should entertain such thoughts about me? Do you not know that I am a Christian, born again of the Spirit, with a new nature, that I am a temple of the Holy Ghost?

Why did Jesus infer that it is impossible for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven? If it was because he is dead in trespasses and sins, then that would apply to the poor also.

No, it is all to do with whom God has chosen. cf. James 2:5

Now it is time for prayer walk, and I will pray for you, sister.


News Item11/21/2020 4:10 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
Again, John, sad to say, but your hermeneutics are wrong.
You are making two biblical instances precepts, say the rich man's encounter with Christ and what happened at Pentecost.
Sister B, let me deal firstly with point number one, then I must have some breakfast, then maybe a prayer walk, then I will deal with point two concerning Pentecost.

BTW, I could make all the points you are making for you. It is traditional Christian interpretations, and few are willing to really think about what they have been taught, they are spoon fed and pass it on, without knowing why.

The rich man's encounter with Christ.

If the Lord Jesus was to speak to anyone on this forum exactly the same things as he spoke to this rich young man, he would get the same response. You yourself would respond the same. And you would perish in your sins.

Matthew 19:26 KJV
(26)  But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Men are born with a sinful nature, and by nature they love money all their life. And money is the root of all kinds of evil. Conversion releases them from that love of money, and instead they love other people and desire their well being.


News Item11/20/2020 5:43 PM
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The Quiet Christian wrote:
Sorry, Brother John, but the Bible was confiscated by George Mason University.
Seriously, though, does appear to be a mission field opportunity. I wonder if the Moderators on those sites would permit someone to offer the hope that we share in Christ?
As I see it, Quiet Brother, what these sorts of folk need is a few Christian soldiers to attack the devil who is putting destruction of themselves into their minds, similar to the Gadarene lunatic. It was dealing with the demons that led that man to seek to follow Christ in his right mind. If you like, it is comparable to waiting until a junky has come down from his acid trip before preaching the gospel to him, otherwise it will just become a part of his psychedelic dream.

Just my opinion, bro. But it has biblical warrant.

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