Lance
Ok where is the teaching found,that your church says God lets the saints hear evry prayer to them?
Also if that teaching is in the bible,pray tell us where we can find it.
If it is the teaching of God,then it would do away with Christ Being the only mediator between God and man!
So come on Lance where's this Infallible teaching.
If you can't find it in Gods Infallible Word,then you can't trust fallible man
Try reading these verses 2 kings22-20,Isa 63-16,they will show you that those in heaven cant know what is going on in earth.
If it was forbiden to worship live saints(Acts 10-26,Acts 14-14=15,Col 2-18,Rev 19-10,Rev 22-8=9)How much more do you condemn youself for worshipping what you know not

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Why don't you gifted people meet up with the none gifted in a neutral place where there are the sick and unlearned and people of another tongue,get down to prayer,then see what takes place.
Im sure the unsaved will be able to hear the wonderful works of God in their own tongue and the sick and the dead will be wonderfully restored to health and life.
If you are afraid to do this,then you should be afraid when the Lord Says"Lord Lord,have we not prophesied in thy name?and in thy name cast out devils?and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto themepart from me,ye workers of iniquity.(Matt 7-22=23)
No one has ever taken up this chalendge in the place where I live,even those on this site who live in my country,they don't want to go to hospitals,homes,hospices,or even out into the streets like the apostles did.
All the gifted people want to do is do all their gifts in a church and speak their tongues in prayer meetings and btw most of those I have spoken to first prayed in tongues in their own bedroom,why,practice for church,so they could say look at me,look Iv'e got the filling(pie filling)

But Sure
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Lance
Have a good look and read what you have said.
You have given a no to the saints not knowing what is being said,then you contrdict yourself in the next line by saing they know when we ask them for assistance,are you confused or what
I ask you for infallible prof and all you can say is your papish church teaches it.
Well lance that is not infallible prof,so it makes you a worshipper of something you don't know anything about.
Surely that should tell you your in the wrong church,as you have not one bit of evidence for saint worship.
INFALLIBLE PROF IS THE WORD OF GOD.
Col 2-18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels,intruding into those things which he hath not seen,vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.Rev 22-8....worship God

But Sure
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Lance
Still waiting for the infallible prof you have for anyone who is a saint in heaven including Mary?

Sure
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Sure this papish priest is only in a pretending church that pretends to be like a christian church,but a reading of the bible would sure let you know all they are doing is pretending (2 cor 13-15)

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"
and when you are,then you become part of the real church

Lance
Yet again your mouth speaketh nothing but lies.
Your god has done nothing sufficient to save his people,thats why you must have works,ie,baptism first,the mass,asking mary to save you.
Now don't come back and say you don't ask mary to save you,cause you have been proved to be a liar many times.
There are many more prayers said to mary by you and your church,the proof is,your beads you use to pray with
As for someone in heaven knowing more,you will find out if you read your bible that even the angles don't know what is happening on earth(luke 15-6).
Can you for once tell us what infallible prof you have for anyone being a saint in heaven including mary?
I await to see what lies your going to come up with

But Sure
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Lance you ought to compare your god with the islamic god,then compare them to the God of the bible.
The God of the bible is a God who saves His people from their sins,He is a God who gives His people the gift of repenrance and forgiveness of their sins,He is a God who recreates people by the power of the Holy Spirit,He is a God that does not condone error nor will He lead His people into error.
He is a God who does not come out of heaven into a wafer at the whim of a sinful man.
He is the Only one who Knows,Sees,and Hears everything and everyone

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"cause a born again person knows the above.

of to bed so,GNAGBABAB

Lance you say"the gap between catholicism and Islam really seems unbridgeable."
How can you then worship the same god who is Christ.
As I have pointed out,either you,the pope,or the papish church is wrong so come on,which one is it?

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Lance you said"non-RCs are christians to the extent that they share the beliefs of the RCC".
why then did you say that the muslims are not christians,seeing you both believe in the same god?
Does this not show that you are as the bible states a double minded man!and also seeing you both worship the same god and share in some of the same beliefs,then you cannot be a "christian",as the true born again chistians believe that Christ is GOD,whom the muslims hate.
Who is the liar,You,the Pope,the papish church as a whole,or the muslims,you can't all be right
Lance there is still time for you,or maybe not,cause you have been given the gosple truth many times,but the Holy Spirit has not nor ever might open your eyes

But hey
Thats Why Christ Said "ye must be born again"

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Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Lance
Keep up your nonesense on the Papish church being christian and you will be given what the bible says about Idol worshippers
btw,I should have said,you will be given AGAIN

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Yip tell that to every nation they have taken over with the sword.
Its founder and its message is to bring the people back to the dark ages,just like the papish religion wants to.

Good Job
Jesus Said
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Lance
Looks like your talking out of the both sides of your mouth,what is needed,Christs Blood,or the scapular,it can't be both?
If its the Blood of our Saviour,then the other is of no use whatsoever .
We don't have to twist papish belief to reject romanism,you show it is twisted every time you open your mouth to say Christs Blood was not good enough you must add other things to get you into heaven .
Is that also why you didn't answer me,when I put you right on what artical 12 realy says .

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Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Lance
Whats up,didn't you know that your church has fooled you into thinking that you can work your own way to heaven by doing all mans traditions,or should I say,your churches traditions .
If you want to be saved,then find a church that preaches GODS TRUTH,and only HIS TRUTH.
You will never find the truth in doing what liars have been telling you to do.
The Holy Spirit is the only one who will lead you into the truth through the Word Of God.
You should always check out what the bible actually says,and not what others tell you it says and means,one rule you should always remember is,that the bible interprets its self.

Untill Then
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

But Hey Lance
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

Thats Why Lance "ye must be born again"

But Hey what rowan needs,and our Saviour said it best "Ye Must Be Born Again"