prince charles wrote:
the preflood diet i believe was generally vegeterian since all they probably had to do was pick it of a bush or tree but in the post flood world it would have been neccessary to eat meat because of the poor climate

Once, when we were visiting a tropical island, we passed a young girl eating a piece of fruit that hung from the trees surrounding her home. She was dressed for school and waiting on the bus. Wouldn't that be neat? Step outside your home, and pick a mango.
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I'm sure you are right about the preflood diet, but in Genesis 4:4, we read, "And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. . . ." So, this would indicate a burnt offering, preflood, and probably consumption of the meat.

Mike wrote:
I was fortunate enough to have been part of an all-county chorus in high school, when we performed the Hallelujah Chorus. For a bunch of kids, I was astounded at how powerful and beautiful it was, though I was not a follower of the Lord at the time. It was amazing how it sounded, considering that the individual school chorus's came together for the first time at the concert. No unified rehearsal!

John UK wrote:
Have you ever been to a live performance of Messiah? It must be very powerful, and certainly shows the immense tonal range the Lord has given to men and women - those incredible highs, amazing!

Churches in the South do things in a BIG way!

I have since heard the Messiah, nearly every year at Christmas time, although, often it is a shortened version. On occasion, different churches, along with members of the Symphony, come together, for the production. For me, this is my favorite part of the Christmas season.

John UK wrote:
Also, Messiah was written for Easter time, although it is often performed in December. I find it amazing that he wrote such a work in so short a time. Must have been God's grace with him.

Interestingly, in years past, everyone would stand at the first note of the "Hallelujah Chorus" - now, it seems that people do not know that this has been a tradition, and/or they do not consider the message and its glorious fulfillment in Christ.

KK wrote:
Do any of you "SEE" the correlation between the way men today are watering down GOD'S WORD ( they don't like to teach THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD'S WORD so they change IT to suite their own liking and to better cater to the hordes of ITCHING EARS -- all because they don't want to offend anyone) ......

In today's local paper there was a full page ad, commemorating the death of Jesus on the cross. Against a graphic of a cross and 3 nails, a piece of parchment, read, "Son I need you to build a bridge; here are all the tools you will need. See you soon - Dad"

Don't you find the irreverence offensive?

A quote from The Message, 1 Peter 3:18 read, "That's what Christ did definitively; suffered because of others' sins, the Righteous One for the unrighteous ones. He went through it all, was put to death and then made alive to bring us to God."

John UK wrote:
Candle Lit, it has been a good day today, and the sun shone all day.

It was interesting to hear of Handel's life being brought up Lutheran and having strong faith all his life, including building an orphanage in London paid for by concert receipts.
it was most moving and exhilarating, especially the facts of HIM being King of kings and Lord of lords and shall reign forever and ever. I'm amazed the beeb allowed it!

Tomorrow, when I can turn up the volume in the house, I'll listen to the cd's that I have of The Messiah performed by The London Philharmonic Orchestra and The LP Choir. I was just reading the insert from that that said Handel wrote it all in the space of just two weeks. Imagine that! Brilliant composer. Another tidbit of interesting info...Handel was directing a performance of the "The Messiah" in 1759 and was taken ill on April 6. He was taken home to rest and died on Good Saturday. He was buried in Westminster Abbey, and over his grave stands a statue of him working on "The Messiah" with the score open at the passage "Iknow that my redeemer liveth."

John UK wrote:
Happy Easter Day to you, Candle Lit.
What a glorious thought!! That our beloved Lord Jesus could not be held by the bands of death, for HE is the RESURRECTION AND THE LIFE. As well as the WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!!
And what a glorious thought that because we are IN HIM, we too shall have glorious resurrection to eternal life, having died with him and risen with him already. Praise God.

But JOY always comes in the morning,

Today is my big day, because at 5.55pm my time, the BBC's program 'Songs of Praise' is celebrating Handels Messiah from the Town Hall, Birmingham. Oh how I look forward to that.
I think Candle Lit is an excellent name .. See if you can get the beeb as we call it on the internet. BBC1.

Handel's Messiah is so Christ exalting. How fitting to enjoy that beautiful piece today, or anyday. It is a favorite of mine.

I did go to the BBC1 site, but didn't see. . .it would have been too late for the live streaming, anyway.

Thank you, John, for sharing your joy from across the Atlantic.

John UK wrote:
Should Christians celebrate/observe Easter? No, definitely NOT! That is, DEFINITELY not!

The more I read of your posts, the more I think you are a theologian!

This a.m., as I was perusing news items, I saw a short video clip from the History Channel on Easter. It was interesting, and while there was info on the origins of the easter egg and bunny, it started out calling easter a Christian celebration of the resurrection of Christ. That's good. Is it not?

I remember when I rejected anything and everything "New Age" - even a George Winston concert where I was guest of a fan, but also the rainbow. . .Ha. . .the rainbow was given by God to Noah as a covenant that He would never destroy the world again by a worldwide flood.

So, just because someone else is claiming a particular day for a particular purpose, or music, or even the rainbow, shouldn't mean that we should reject an opportunity to talk about God's work, using it as a springboard.

Maybe you have already told us how you became a Christian, but I missed it. Would you share it, again?

On second thought, Jessica, that's probably asking too much given the space allowed.

just a thought wrote:
Candlelit, I know you understand the sarcasm in my post, but, there may be some who read what I said and not understand; thank you for the clarification.

just a thought wrote:
If they truly want to 'share in Christ's sufferings' they must die.

Lance Eccles wrote:
These people wish to share in Jesus' sacrifice.

The History Channel recently showed an excellent depiction of Roman crucifixion. It was gruesome, extreme torture. Medical doctors described the process on the body, and they studied how long a strong, young man could hang on the cross. 15 minutes was all he could take. Imagine that! Unlike Jesus, He had not been beaten with skin flayed down to the bone, nerve endings causing excruciating pain, rubbing up against raw wood.

I won't be able to contribute to the boards today, as I can barely move my neck due to a pinched nerve..

I did want to say that I look forward to reading the discussion on this issue of prayer, as I find it a weakness in my own life. The questions that you ask are questions I have, as well.

As to Mr. Cheung and his writing on the cessationists: I find his writing and reasoning a compelling argument for the continuation of the gifts. It's a shame that he dilutes his argument by attacking John MacArthur's views. There was no need. Let each man's argument stand.

In earlier posts, I mentioned the godly lady who died who was trusting in the Lord to heal her. What I didn't mention was that she was Pentecostal. It was my first experience with people who emphasisized the gifts of the spirit, such as healing, speaking in tongues, etc. I know that there is something to it, but I have also seen the abuses. I am a thinking person, and just not drawn to seeking spiritual experiences, so I'm not drawn to this, though I do think there is a powerlessness in the body today, and, I would like to pray with expectation.

John UK wrote:
Hi CandleLit
#1 Quite so, and it would be interesting to see what JM calls Cheung.

#3 Another huge subject. Our view of God determines how and what we pray for. If I believe que sera sera, why pray? If I believe God is my Father, why shouldn't I ask him for all things? Even if he says no?

As to #1 - I would think that JM would not say anything in a derogatory way about Mr. Cheung. But, then, I tend to believe the best of people, unless they give me a reason not to.

As to #3 - I pray because I "have" to -whether or not God ever answered, I would still pray. I have the need to pray, and there is a comfort in pouring out my heart to God, whether or not He grants my desire. I was comforted by something Spurgeon said about praying from the depths of our beings, not necessarily using words. The Spirit prays for us.

John UK wrote:
I was very interested in his 'review' of a MacArthur lecture on running the church 'Acts-Style'. He reckoned that John was missing a whole lot of Acts-Style power, which leads to a powerless gospel message. He asks good questions that others shy away from, like: Acts 1:8 tells us to expect power (dynamitical power) when the Holy Ghost comes upon us, so WHERE is this power? How does it manifest?

I know a godly lady who trusted the Lord for healing, and who died a long painful death. I have to say, her death, spoke volumes to me, and I remember her for her faith, but she died, though she and the whole church prayed for her.

charles m wrote:
I dont care about being humbled and corrected i wanta be in the truth !

There's no getting around it *Prince Charles* there's some humbling and correction that comes with being a member of the royal family.

paperclip wrote:
Psalm 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Neil wrote:
"I want correction when I am wrong."
That is a rare & commendable attitude!

Neil wrote:
According to Snopes, that is urban legend: [URL=http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp]]]Malice of Absence[/URL]
In any case, it is not Biblically-reasoned, but like much science, pure speculation.
Consider this instead: [URL=http://www.rmiweb.org/other/problemevil.pdf]]]Problem of Evil by Vincent Cheung[/URL]
[ignore Cheung's sometimes strident tone & understand the reasoning, esp. his solution]

I was sure that I would be corrected for being wrong, but I don't mind. Actually, I want correction when I am wrong.

In the past, I had prayed for humility because I needed it. God sent physical affliction. Then, during my physical affliction, I found SA comment boards. And, I face being humbled often. It's good for me.

Oh, btw, thanks for posting that "it is truth that matters, not who utters it."

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