CMT wrote:If Christian men don't lead in politics, the women will. Sarah Palin is evidence of that fact. And if Christian men don't run, then certainly pagans will. I'm not saying all Christian men should be involved in politics, but if a man finds a calling in that area, he is sinning if he doesn't answer it. And if the Mummified Pietistic Mush church or 501(c)(3) church he's attending refuses to support him, he needs to find a community of believers with Black Robed Regiment values (As opposed to Dr. Dobby family values) who will.
The problem lyes in the fact that that Christian better be called to operate in that function because they are going to have to walk through the mine field of secret societies, God haters, conspirators, and be well aware who is trying to pull their strings through advisors.
In fact they would have to be willing to have faith in Christ to help them dodge the bullet (real not metaphorical) intended to shut them up, and have a clean past or they will be shot down in some scandal leaked to the press.
I truly believe a Christian is most needed to run for political office, but unfortunately I have to also add that if they succeeded I would be very skeptical as to what sort of Christian they were. (Though God can do as he pleases and perform miracles eg: in Daniel the three Jewish children came out of the fire not even smelling of smoke)
I would also say NO if they were operating at the behest of a religious organization.
The participants of the mystery religions call themselves born again for they have an inverse ceremony.
Members of the Skull and Bones like the Bushes have been through this ceremony and when George W Bush was asked if he was a Christian his interesting response was "Yes I have been born again."Hmm Mr bush that wasn't the question.
How many US presidents have said they are Born Again?How many of them were involved with secret societies.
If someone just claims to be born again and leaves it at that, get sus mighty quick. Things are not what they ever appear.
Jim Lincoln wrote:...No, Christ is not reigning on an earthly throne! God is in control, and when Christ returns for the Millennium, then he will be the physical king over the earth....
If "God is in control", must he choose only unbelievers to run the world?
Neil, I see no mention about Christians or Jews in civil government. No, Christ is not reigning on an earthly throne! God is in control, and when Christ returns for the Millennium, then he will be the physical king over the earth.
As long as a "Christian" is quite flexible, and doesn't let his conscience bother him on the "little" things then of course he can be a politician.
About the --forthcoming-- Kingdom, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1214071424010]]]The Prophesied Kingdom, part 1[/URL], and [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=118081049550]]]The Prophesied Counterfeit Kingdom[/URL]. Gil has done a whole series of sermons on what is the "Kingdom" recently.
imo, it's absurd to think that a Christian could not be in political office.
derek wrote:If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.The condition of a nation is determined by believers, not unbelievers. Since most politicians are corrupt, would it not make sense that replacing them with Christians would make politicians moral and honestOnly the people of God can intervene in the direction of a nation
AmenIf I may you are wrong on one thing.The condition of a nation is determined by believers, not unbelievers
Change that to readis determined by Unbelievers, not believers
If my peopleYou may be humble, I may be humble, but not most who claim to be His people.And His people love it so, for what is the "churches", it really bothers me to use that word for what the world calls them, christians, agree. Just call them denominations, and light and dark will agree to disagree.The number of christians is very clear in the Bible, FEWHow many are fewSomeone asked Jesus, will there be fewWhere??
The condition of a nation is determined by believers, not unbelievers. Since most politicians are corrupt, would it not make sense that replacing them with Christians would make politicians moral and honest?Only the people of God can intervene in the direction of a nation.
You've must be kidding! You know, the author of the Scofield Reference Bible notes, the most influential popularizer of Dispensationalism?
"I would think it would be near impossible for a Christian (bible-believing) to be a politician"
So why is it possible for a Jew to be a good politician? What special abilities does he possess? Leon Trotsky was a Jew...
The rest of your post seems to ramble away from my point.
Well, in effect our history, has made us co-partners in leadership, this why I can't see where we can be completely quiet on who we should support. We always have to be of the mind that God does the ultimate choosing, but that doesn't mean we are suppose to be silent about evil. I go to a Church which doesn't believe in mixing religion with government, I do try to refrain from criticizing current leaders, what good will it do, anyway? I can criticize past leader s like Clinton, as leaders as bad examples, and perhaps on what may be future ones, giving out a warning akin to Ezekiel, but as the booklet, [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L121.pdf]]]Rendering To Caesar: A Biblical Perspective On Government[/URL], says all leaders are picked by God, so attacking past or possibly future ones, is a "make me feel good" exercise, Hey it's the American Way!
In which case, why do you continually opine on primary candidates? Shouldn't we leave voting to the Jews, too?