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TUESDAY, DEC 22, 2020  |  8 comments
What Began 400 Years Ago In Plymouth Shaped The World For The Better
What started in Plymouth changed the world — and changed it for the better. It was an audacious effort — a group of zealous religious men and women who put all their resources behind the creation of a new community in a new land, foreign to them in every way. They had more in common with the first Americans to step foot on Mars than they did with the colonization efforts in other places around the world.

Yet even just half a century later, those same communities they founded worried that they had lost the same spirit that animated their parents and grandparents. As Samuel Danforth would preach in Boston in 1670, in a sermon titled “A Brief Recognition of New England’s Errand into the Wilderness”: ...


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News Item12/22/2020 11:29 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The Quiet Christian wrote:
It has been my observation that Satan often attacks the children of the Godly parent. There are many OT examples and a nbr of contemporary ones with whom we are all familiar. Jim's criticism is based on outcome over which they and we have no control. That is up to the Lord.
My comment on yesterday's story of the same sort posting stands here as well.
Jim does have a point in a sense, though. Some of us are the offspring of Godly forbearers who created and protected this republic and nation. There are many around us who have twisted that effort into their own image using Critical Theory and demanding that we "continue the American Revolution because there is income inequality, racial inequality, environmental inequality, and health care inequality." Have not these followed in the footsteps of the Unitarian Universalists?
Read the words of those who came here, not the dribble that has been written about them.
Good point, QC. The American Revolution will be continued as long as we oppose that counter-revolutionary and false notion of outcome equality. Equality has never been an American ideal. Why not? It runs counter to liberty. People came here to be free, not to be equal. They had equal with other serfs.
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News Item12/22/2020 10:02 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
It has been my observation that Satan often attacks the children of the Godly parent. There are many OT examples and a nbr of contemporary ones with whom we are all familiar. Jim's criticism is based on outcome over which they and we have no control. That is up to the Lord.

My comment on yesterday's story of the same sort posting stands here as well.

Jim does have a point in a sense, though. Some of us are the offspring of Godly forbearers who created and protected this republic and nation. There are many around us who have twisted that effort into their own image using Critical Theory and demanding that we "continue the American Revolution because there is income inequality, racial inequality, environmental inequality, and health care inequality." Have not these followed in the footsteps of the Unitarian Universalists?

Read the words of those who came here, not the dribble that has been written about them.

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News Item12/22/2020 10:01 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I didn't know that's how they made the world better 400 years later Almost all those churches became Unitarian. Not surprising since the Puritans were proto-dominionists
https://tinyurl.com/yd2k9dj (Dominionism -- A Summary)
Does this mean you only approve of Dominion-ism when it comes to ballot vote shifting?
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News Item12/22/2020 9:57 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Yes, I somewhat remember it was from Benjamin Franklin. You know I'll be better just to listen to exactly what he said, on the program. I don't think there's a transcript out for it, but it isn't that long.

The show will give you some idea how the supreme Court works. No, we never were a true democracy we were a representative democracy. At this time I don't know how representative it isâť—

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News Item12/22/2020 9:48 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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https://www.pbs.org/video/neil-gorsuch-xrku7e/
It's around a 26 minute video. Justice Gorsuch was no doubt interested in doing this program in large part because he was plugging his book whose title is something like "You have a democracy if you can keep it" It seems to be easier said than done.
A Republic, if You Can Keep it, taken from a quote by Ben Franklin. It's never been a democracy Jim. If we are fortunate, it never will be.
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News Item12/22/2020 8:41 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
"The Unitarian Controversy and Its Puritan Roots"

https://tinyurl.com/jkhsosd

It should be noted that both Presidents Adams we're Unitarian.

A history from the Unitarians how they came to be from the Puritans

Quite true, Chris GP, but they left a legacy of anti-Christianity. You should find the article in the Unitarian dictionary quite informative and accurate. The Puritans most certainly didn't want to be told by bishops or popes on how to behave--the local church was the final authority. I doubt that if any man-made institution doesn't finally fall into corruption.

I mentioned this on another thread,

"Firing Line | Neil Gorsuch | Season 2020 | PBS"

https://www.pbs.org/video/neil-gorsuch-xrku7e/

It's around a 26 minute video. Justice Gorsuch was no doubt interested in doing this program in large part because he was plugging his book whose title is something like "You have a democracy if you can keep it" It seems to be easier said than done.

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News Item12/22/2020 3:23 AM
Chrisgp from England | England  Find all comments by Chrisgp from England
Before you criticise the Puritans, Mr Lincoln, remember this. They were godly men and women, who did not wish to worship in the way that the state church required back in England. They were people of prayer and holiness. They loved God’s Word, they loved the Lord Jesus Christ, and some of the best devotional books were written by Puritans. Yes, unfortunately, the Puritans, as with the Reformers before them, did carry on the notion of a “state” approved church, and such things in most cases such as infant baptism, and their eschatology tended to continue the amillenial allegorical one of the Catholic Church, but modified to put the Pope as the continual Antichrist. However, they did set the seal on the godly family model, on learning and study of the Holy Scriptures. However godly the setup, this does not guarantee that future generations will not fall into heresy and apostasy. Read the Bible, with OT Israel!! However, the Puritan community was far better than the wicked godless secular humanist state that you wish to live in, with Biden and Harris!!
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News Item12/22/2020 2:14 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I didn't know that's how they made the world better 400 years later Almost all those churches became Unitarian. Not surprising since the Puritans were proto-dominionists
https://tinyurl.com/yd2k9jdj (Dominionism -- A Summary)
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