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TUESDAY, NOV 17, 2020  |  90 comments
Franklin Graham: COVID Does't Change Christmas
“This weekend, CNN’s Jake Trapper made the gloomy proclamation that, ‘Christmas is probably not gonna be possible’ this year. I have news for him — Christmas is going to be celebrated by millions and millions of people around the world,” Graham wrote.

“The reason is that Christmas is not about gatherings and festivities, but it’s about Jesus Christ. It is about God GIVING His Son — sending Him to earth to save us from our sins. As Christians, we celebrate that ‘God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.'”

“This is what Christmas is about — and even COVID doesn’t change that! Christmas celebrations may not be exactly the same this year, but for Christians, Christmas is in your heart,” he wrote. ...


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News Item12/14/2020 6:50 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Dave wrote:
Again John Lee you expose yourself as a heretic.
You peddle replacement theology and you ever so sneakily bring in works.
You're wolf,
“Brother” John and I have never discussed replacement theology. But, if he adheres to it then I will disagree with him. But, that doesn’t make him a wolf, the same as I don’t consider you to be a wolf because we disagree on the rapture.

Now I believe all Christians draw lines and that is a good thing. It would appear that your lines are different than mine. I only use them on what I refer to as primary issues; not secondary ones.

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News Item11/25/2020 6:09 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
“This weekend, CNN’s Jake Trapper made the gloomy proclamation that, ‘Christmas is probably not gonna be possible’ this year. I have news for him — Christmas is going to be celebrated by millions and millions of people around the world,” Graham wrote.

“The reason is that Christmas is not about gatherings and festivities, but it’s about Jesus Christ. It is about God GIVING His Son — sending Him to earth to save us from our sins. As Christians, we celebrate that ‘God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.'”

“This is what Christmas is about — and even COVID doesn’t change that! Christmas celebrations may not be exactly the same this year, but for Christians, Christmas is in your heart,” he wrote. ...

Franklin Graham has spoken the truth I never thought I'd hear.

I am so looking forward to Christmas, and the annual debate.

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News Item11/24/2020 7:03 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Promoting W. Carey is not a good idea. Carey spoke highly of Wesley, an Arminian heretic, "The late Mr. Wesley lately made an effort in the West-Indies, and some of their ministers are now labouring amongst the Caribs and Negroes, and I have seen pleasing accounts of their success." Obviously Carey did NOT know the Gospel of Christ, according to sovereign grace. He was a bit ecumenical as well, " I do not mean by this, in any wise to confine it
to one denomination of Christians. I wish with all my heart, that everyone who loves our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity, would in some way or other engage in it. But in the present divided state of Christendom, it would be more likely for good to be
done by each denomination engaging separately in the work, than if they were to embark in it conjointly. **There is room enough for us all**, without interfering with each other"..- this is Babylon, a religion than is all inclusive, regardless of what you believe. As long as you mention 'Jesus', it's all good.
Carey also talks repeatedly of 'giving', which is why we've seen a rash of comments on this subject of late {https://www.wmcarey.edu/carey/enquiry/anenquiry.pdf}.

2 John 9-11 speaks loud and clear to those with ears to hear...

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News Item11/24/2020 5:57 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Watcher wrote:
Can't argue with scripture!
Absolutely not, Watcher.

But professing Christians who are unregenerate will always argue with scripture, and those who promote scripture. In the UK, this is especially true of the Anglican soft-peddlers and Charismatic BBQ types. Also true of the mixed-up Methodists, and the no communion, no baptism, Salvation Army types. Also true of the United Reformed types, united with the ecumenical movement and RCC. Also true of the cults like Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses and Christadelphians. Oh and a whole host of others who, not having the Spirit, will never understand scripture, nor will they obey the word of God, due to their false assumption that God doesn't want them to do anything in this world lest it smacks of works salvation, which thing they don't even understand what the phrase means.

G'night bro, and keep on witnessing!

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News Item11/24/2020 5:44 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Again John Lee you expose yourself as a heretic.
You peddle replacement theology and you ever so sneakily bring in works.
You're wolf,
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News Item11/24/2020 10:54 AM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
John Lee wrote:
Thanks Watcher!
1 John 4:7-16 KJV
(7)  Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
(8)  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
(9)  In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
(10)  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
(11)  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
(12)  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
(13)  Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
(14)  And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
(15)  Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
(16)  And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Can't argue with scripture!
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News Item11/24/2020 5:26 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Watcher wrote:
Well said and amen!
Thanks Watcher!

1 John 4:7-16 KJV
(7)  Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
(8)  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
(9)  In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
(10)  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
(11)  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
(12)  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
(13)  Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
(14)  And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
(15)  Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
(16)  And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

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News Item11/23/2020 2:43 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John, from past records to this, you seem to be a bad looser.
Trust you have ended saying what you wanted to hear said.

***
" if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully."
Which applies also to debate BTW.

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News Item11/23/2020 1:40 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Well said and amen!
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News Item11/23/2020 12:31 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
In conclusion, I would say that the Holy Spirit led the early church into something better than is found in countries all over the world.

This something is produced by the Holy Spirit in the hearts of God's people. He has written in their hearts the law of love, and they love by their new nature not by their adamic nature.

They recognise that all who are born again are such because of God's sovereign grace, and therefore unless they are backslidden they will love every believer, without respect of persons, simply because God loves them.

The old covenant principles of caring and sharing with others of God's people, if and when they are in need, are carried forward into the new covenant, not to gain merit, but on account of God's Spirit dwelling within each believer who now becomes a temple of the Holy Ghost.

I know of several Christian communities, and each one is very industrious, with no shirking or laziness tolerated, unlike countries where a political ideology is entertained. This alone is sufficient to show that God's way is far better than any of mans' ways.

When Christians stick to God's blueprint, there should be no Christian anywhere in the world who is suffering for lack of help.
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News Item11/23/2020 2:44 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
What I'm saying, Sister B, is that what happened at Pentecost was no legalistic thing, as though these brand new Christians were putting themselves under a whole new set of rules and regulations. No, they had become a new creature in Christ Jesus; it was a work of the Holy Spirit. They were transformed by God. If they had a love, care and compassion, as Jewish believers under the law, they now had the same thing greatly enhanced under grace, being filled with the Spirit and having a new heart, so that God led them into walking in his ways more perfectly, as the prophet described.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 KJV
(26)  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
(27)  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

This was no experiment, it was God at work.

Acts 2:45 KJV
(45)  And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 4:32 KJV
(32)  And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

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News Item11/22/2020 5:12 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
I do not believe that the Christians at Jerusalem sat down and formulated their ideas into a 'system' or a 'theological concept'. Rather, the Holy Spirit filled them all (which was a new thing) and they all submitted themselves to the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. cf. Acts 2:42.

1 John 3:14 KJV
(14)  We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Even without the teaching on it, which came much later, the Jerusalem church nonetheless, with love for others in their company, being born again and having passed from death to life, they ensured that every one had sustenance and assistance when needed. They knew this, from the OT scriptures which they heard read in the synagogue every sabbath. But now, the law of God was greatly enhanced in their illuminated minds, and it was no longer a slavish obedience, but the reality of a changed heart, even a new heart.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 KJV
(26)  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. Also read v27.

To be continued tomorrow, although I have a 4hr meeting to chair.

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News Item11/22/2020 4:41 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
No surprise to see ecumenism promoted here, the Wesley's adhered to the free will gospel, which is another gospel of a different kind. Whatever 'spirit' moved, you can be assured it was not of God.
'Consistent with Spurgeon's rejection of 1 John 2:3-5, Spurgeon taught that a person can be caught in the "bondage" of the false religion of Catholicism and still be one of Christ's sheep-"What Protestant can refuse to love the holy Bernard? Was there ever a more consecrated servant of God or a dearer lover of Christ than he? Yet he was most sorrowfully in bondage to the superstitions of his age and of the Romish Church. (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Vol. 29, p. 192, March 25, 1883) How is it one can claim to believe in the Gospel of grace, then turn around and say someone who believes in a pseudo jesus is a 'servant of God' and 'lover of Jesus'? Spurgeon merely gave lip service, he 'honored God with his mouth, but, his heart was far from Him'- "while I detest many of the doctrines which he preached, yet for the man himself I have a reverence second to no Wesleyan; and if there were wanted two apostles to be added to the number of the twelve, I do not believe that there could be found two men more fit to be so added than George Whitfield and John Wesley"- CHS, the ecumenist.....
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News Item11/22/2020 3:47 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
I said that the Herrnhut experience was an aside, but most relevant because it was a product of God's providence and the working of the Holy Spirit in power.

In God's providence, Christians of all stripes who were being persecuted, arrived at Herrnhut, seeking sanctuary. Reformed, Baptists, Brethren, and so on, were all helped by Von Zinzendorf, who allowed them to live on his land.

These were all zealous Christians, and it was not long before arguments broke out. Please take note of that. And please take note of what happened when the Spirit of God moved through the meeting, as described in the last post.

The Spirit of God always fills with love, those whom he fills. It is a good test, you can apply it to anyone.

Note also that these Christians did not sit back and sponge off of Zinzendorf. They attended to spiritual life and they attended to their day to day life, working and ensuring that all were catered for, including any widows, orphans, or those who were sick. It was the Spirit who produced this in them, which is why it is worth comparing them with the early church at Jerusalem. I believe Herrnhut is a great example of what happens when the Spirit of God is active.

Without the Spirit, we go a bit wonky.

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News Item11/22/2020 2:25 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
[On August 13, 1727, at a baptism and communion service, the Holy Spirit moved through the room. Differences dissolved. All embraced one another in forgiveness and a spirit of love. Christ became central to their thinking. They established a twenty-four hour around-the-clock prayer vigil which lasted one hundred years. The fervent prayers resulted in the sending out of missionaries to many lands--the first Protestant missions outside Europe and North America. Thus Herrnhut reached out and touched other lands. Moravians influenced John and Charles Wesley. Moravian missionary zeal prompted William Carey's efforts to reach India for Christ. "See what these Moravians have done," he said in his appeal to have missionaries commissioned.
Herrnhut was a busy and industrious place. Spinning, weaving, carpentry, pottery, farming and missionary training went on unceasingly. Each evening Zinzendorf selected a scripture to be the watchword for the next day. Often he wrote a hymn to accompany the word. Saturdays and Sundays were days of prayer and worship. Almost every day, each band met to exhort, reprove and pray for one another. Single women and single men lived in separate buildings. In a special home, the children of missionaries were cared for.]

An aside but relevant.

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News Item11/22/2020 2:16 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Received this from a dear brother. Very poignant and brings this virus into perspective.

BLESSED VIRUS

Why do we look so negatively at providence? Why do we shun the pains of God’s sovereignty? Is a global virus such a bad thing for the believer? Does the isolation, uncertainty, and loneliness that lockdowns bring afford such unbearable things for a true believer?

Charles Spurgeon pours our comforting balm once again for the disheartened saint when we says, “Better walk on rugged rocks than slippery ice. Few Christians backslide while under the rod; it is usually on the lap of plenty that believers sin.”

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News Item11/22/2020 2:15 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
B. McCausland wrote:
The holy Spirit did not lead the church into communism at Pentecost. Proof of that is how we read later in the epistles the teaching of Paul exhorting people into enterprise, and not to be lazy but work with their own hands and have enough to distribute to others. This is capitalism.
Proving that the Holy Spirit did not lead the church into communism at Pentecost is rather pointless, because no-one here has suggested that. I prefer to stick to scripture rather than bring in man made ideologies or politics. However, I agree with that statement. So what did the Holy Spirit lead the church into at Pentecost?

The Spirit did not bring them into anything different from the old covenant regarding the treatment of the poor within their societies. God had already explained that to them in 'the law' and presumably they were already doing that (or were they?).

Please note, these converted Jews were permitted to maintain their religion and their festivals etc. while under Roman occupation, so I am not (nor will I) talk about national politics, applicable in a country. What I'm talking about is what the Holy Ghost did amongst God's people, in their relation with others of God's people. Sister B, please note that.

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News Item11/22/2020 12:50 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Over the years there have been a few fellows who made mention of a theological concept called Replacement Theology. They described this in disparaging terms, saying that some believed the Christian church replaced the Jews Religion, so that the Jews were done, and Christianity was new and different.

But my claim is that Christianity was and is, the fulfilment of the Jews religion, as is easily proved by comparing types and antitypes.

Therefore, when multitudes of Jews were converted at and beyond Pentecost, they were instructed by the Holy Ghost concerning this. For example, they saw that Jesus was the Messiah, the final High Priest, and when this Lamb of God was sacrificed at Calvary, it was a once for all sacrifice for sin never to be repeated again. Of course there was a transition period until the fulfilment of their religion finally took hold. This is quite understandable. But you can see the very point in time when old covenant changed to new covenant, because God tore the veil in the temple from top to bottom, showing that the old way of doing things had finally come to an end, being only a picture of the heavenly temple and mercy seat, which places were spiritual not physical.

I believe it important to grasp this for what comes next.

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News Item11/22/2020 12:33 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Sister Lb-👍 📢
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News Item11/22/2020 11:55 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
"Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."- 'law' and 'works' are NOT one in the same. The 'law' refers to the Mosaic law, which is no longer in effect, 'the letter kills', 'For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.' The law can only do one thing, point you to your failure and keeping it perfectly, which is required. Justice follows as a result. The 'works' a true believer does are of God {Eph. 2:10}, wrought by Him and only acceptable in Christ, those who completely trust in what HE has done and not Christ plus your Billy Graham decision, your works, your attempts at earning merit. This is why some persistently argue with everyone, they do not see the finished work of Christ as enough. They add to that perfect work by insisting you must do something {fleshly}, you must 'give to the poor'. That isn't to say you should not help the less fortunate, particularly orphans and widows. BUT, *your God-given 'works' are not acceptable apart from trusting in Christ ALONE*, which many do NOT do. Deception is never detectable to the natural mind. In order to 'repent of dead works' {Heb. 6:1}, you must first acknowledge you were deceived by those very 'dead works'. Only God the Spirit can open the mind to this deception.
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