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MONDAY, JUL 27, 2020  |  44 comments  |  1 commentary
‘Compliance Would Be Disobedience’: Prominent California Church Defies State Lockdown
The pastor and elders of a prominent evangelical church in California issued a statement on Friday explaining why they will no longer comply with the state’s mandate ordering them to refrain from in-person gatherings.

John F. MacArthur, the 81-year-old senior pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, also claimed that the state had overstepped its legitimate, God-given authority. Citing Christ and the Bible as the ultimate authority over his congregation, MacArthur wrote in the lengthy blog post replete with scripture that “we cannot and will not acquiesce to a government-imposed moratorium on our weekly congregational worship or other regular corporate gatherings. Compliance would be disobedience to our Lord’s clear commands.” ...


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News Item7/29/2020 9:44 PM
HerbalMama  Find all comments by HerbalMama
Masks have their place. The point is, is the way they're being used bu the public now doing any good? I would venture to say no. The other thing to consider is is covid really worthy of such mandates? Does the government have the biblical authority to mandate them?
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News Item7/29/2020 12:34 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Governor Psychotic of California is nuts.
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News Item7/29/2020 9:36 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
A teoteawki, Mike? I thought that was one of them torches they set out at High-waiian luaus.
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News Item7/29/2020 8:11 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Dr. Tim wrote:
So the “exceptions” that prove the rule are the 99.9 percent that are not guilty of what you accuse them of, Jim?
Jim is invariably on the side of government, whatever the issue. If there ever is teotwawki, woe unto his neighbors, especially believers.
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News Item7/29/2020 7:50 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
So the “exceptions” that prove the rule are the 99.9 percent that are not guilty of what you accuse them of, Jim?
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News Item7/28/2020 9:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
https://www.eternitynews.com.au/world/should-governments-close-churches-for-covid-richard-baxter-v-john-macarthur/

URL for the main article below❗

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News Item7/28/2020 9:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
https://tinyurl.com/yx9axydf (Trump returns to agitating for reopenings)

John Sandeman wrote:
From a time when pandemics were common 400 years ago, Puritan pastor and writer Richard Baxter (1615-1691) gives a different point of view and urges churches to obey government orders to close in a pandemics – and also specifies when a church should defy an unjust authority....

Two excerpts from The Practical Works of Richard Baxter, the fifth volume, in his Christian Ecclesiastics, where he details answers to nearly 200 questions dealing with Christians...☑

https://tinyurl.com/yyuw5sfy

☑(1.) If the magistrate for a greater good, (as the common safety,) forbid church assemblies in a time of pestilence, assault of enemies, or fire, or the like necessity, it is a duty to obey him. 1. Because positive duties give place to those great natural duties which are their end: so Christ justified himself and his disciples violation of the external rest of the sabbath. “For the sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath.”...

excerpt from, "...Richard Baxter Vs John MacArthur"

"The exceptions that prove the rule " Timothy❗ Praise God there are those exceptions👍

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News Item7/28/2020 6:43 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
Many.. not all. Professional can be wrong. Yes😁...Experts say masks are not good can be detrimental also. Who is saying masks are vitally important is 100 percent safe and effective. No one.. they use terms like could, may, help,better,so on so on...
Experts are saying that the opposite like fauci world heath, but now say.. may, help, better, could...

FYI. Our news last night went into meltdown. Case after case of families telling us the TRUTH, about whats happening in all those deaths of the past 2 weeks 90 percent were from nursing homes. Even from a former opposition leader who said of his neighbors family disgust of trying to find their father for 5 day if he had been moved to a hospital about covid to find he was dead 5 days ago. Another woman screaming wanting to know about her mother and to then visit the nursing home screaming to know more and see her mum and hug her. To be refused. Another saw her mum and took photos of food that was given her yet her chart said carnt eat solid food left their for her to eat 6 hours carnt comunicatate properly. Another chart say carnt use her hands died of dehydration food left next to her. Fear , fear , fear. N Homes are a fearfull place where no one is allowed in and they are fearful. Fear can cause death. Lack of care too.

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News Item7/28/2020 1:16 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Greetings wrote:
Niel, those nurses get their information from bad sources...The left side of the culture wants panic because they don’t want Trump re-elected
How do you know? Have you studied medical curricula? Professionals aren't always right, I grant, but fanatical amateurs are far less trustworthy. My "ill informed" relative's advice once saved my son's life.

You overlook that many other countries have enacted similar measures. Should I believe that *all of them* are doing this just to harm Trump? Rubbish!

Face masks seem to bother you more than recent gov't impositions on religious liberties. Unless anti-facemasks *is* your religion.

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News Item7/28/2020 5:38 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Boy, you really nailed it then, Jim. Why do think IFB churches run more buses into “the projects” than any other group? Why, of course it’s greed. An average IFB church will invest thousands of dollars a year in its bus ministry, but the resultant offerings can sometimes amount to over a hundred bucks annually, so it’s pretty easy to see the financial motivation behind it all. And of course the love of money is what drives IFB churches to support more missionaries per capita than anyone except the Mormons. Just think of all the money that comes rolling in from places like Nigeria, Indonesua and the Philippines, where per capita income averages under $4,000 US per year. Man, those missionaries are mopping up! And I can’t even begin to tell you how much dough we rake in from our homeless ministries. Yeah, bubba, it’s sure about that money.
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News Item7/28/2020 5:28 AM
Eric Gonsalves | Sri lanka  Contact via emailFind all comments by Eric Gonsalves
Hello guys. Thank you for the post. I found a wonder full article web site. Check out
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News Item7/28/2020 3:20 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Good point, Neil.

'Researchers said politicizing mask-wearing early on only worsened this backlash response, but they're hopeful, with Pres. Trump's recent pivot on the issue, referring Tuesday to mask-wearing as "patriotic," will help.'

https://tinyurl.com/y4f4s5z6

James 2:1-7
My brothers, don’t hold the faith of our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with partiality. For if a man with a gold ring, in fine clothing, comes into your synagogue, and a poor man in filthy clothing also comes in, and you pay special attention to him who wears the fine clothing and say, “Sit here in a good place;” and you tell the poor man, “Stand there,” or “Sit by my footstool” haven’t you shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my beloved brothers. Didn’t God choose those who are poor in this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the Kingdom which he promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor man. Don’t the rich oppress you and personally drag you before the courts? Don’t they blaspheme the honorable name by which you are called?

Money talks, as it did at the very beginning of the Christian church ❗👎

The other big problem that IFBs have.

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News Item7/27/2020 9:14 PM
Greetings | Over the Rainbow  Find all comments by Greetings
Niel, those nurses get their information from bad sources. The left side of the culture wants panic because they don’t want Trump re-elected
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News Item7/27/2020 8:47 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
Neil wrote:
Since I don't run for a living, that doesn't apply to me. And I don't use anti-bacterial gel, nor does anyone else I know. Actually I only wear it when in proximity to others. So far I haven't fainted or had any heart attacks.
A relative who's a credentialed Nurse Practitioner recommends masks, so I'll take her advice rather than yours, as you sound like an amateur.
https://youtu.be/ZqRL1GXu5DE

In all that you write you may not but some do. Fauci said from the beginning masks are not recommended or...if some one asked you to wear a mask thats your choice. If you want to find a police man you need to look for one. So if you want to find information about how masks are not good for you you need to look, not in the sand.
Its the same argument that climate change people say, the same agument that non young earth use. Amateur dont = error, highminded proud GOD fight agaist them. Microbes are tiny no mask is going to protect you. Not rocket science. If you want the find truth dig in the right place.Not snopes not mr google or misses Wikipedia. Whole council of GOD. 😚 PEACE on the Israel of God.

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News Item7/27/2020 8:37 PM
Born Again  Find all comments by Born Again
Praise God. John McArthur made a stand against the false "social justice" gospel and now standing for the Biblical command of worship. We can see the day is approaching and so much the more we are commanded to assemble together as Christians. Heb 10:25. The fact that Gov. Newsom used the word indefinitely clashes with this command.
JMcA is just being a faithful pastor in a world that's waxing worse and worse and rulers become more tyrannical under the control of the Antichrist beast system as God says would happen. Also with the banning of singing, it clashes with Psalm 51:15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise. Trying and deceptive times but God will receive all the Glory.
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News Item7/27/2020 7:50 PM
Greetings | Over the Rainbow  Find all comments by Greetings
Science experiments have been conducted that prove that masks are harmful, Neil. Many people have proven this.
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News Item7/27/2020 7:48 PM
Greetings | Over the Rainbow  Find all comments by Greetings
http://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/81-87
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News Item7/27/2020 6:33 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Watchmanrem wrote:
Equation is simply oxygen is paramount! As soon as oxygen levels go below on memory 18%
Since I don't run for a living, that doesn't apply to me. And I don't use anti-bacterial gel, nor does anyone else I know. Actually I only wear it when in proximity to others. So far I haven't fainted or had any heart attacks.

A relative who's a credentialed Nurse Practitioner recommends masks, so I'll take her advice rather than yours, as you sound like an amateur.

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News Item7/27/2020 6:20 PM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Texas  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
Thank you Michael Hranek,
I’m certain we’ll get a comment about how Phil Johnson says “ keep your ideas to yourself, that’s how you can keep the American demoncratic republic alive and well.”
People who have others pay their bills while they get to fiddle and pontificate on how the Lord works in my community, are as useful as a government expert.
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News Item7/27/2020 5:59 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
Equation is simply oxygen is paramount! As soon as oxygen levels go below on memory 18% you can either faint or have a heart attack or many other symptoms...Law ,Thats is why runners or those whos work HAS extensive need for oxygen are exempt
Microbes are 200 times smaller than can spays and you can see what usless thing they Are against a mask.. next time in a cold day and look as you breath out and see what cloud come out of your mounth unto the face of others who you are talking too or even not talking to...but travels way way away. 😁. Mask, anti bacterial gell which is full of POISON wood alcohol usless,masks ONLY incubation of bacteria in your mouth and carbon dioxide reentry. Not rocket science. I guess common sense is a gift. 😚
No VIRUS just poison. Microbes are Gods way of protection. 2 trillion of these. Beware of fear, fear human fear is a POISON. Unbelief a POISON.s
Assemble one another together, not Skype or zoom but together Holly kiss sharing bateria with one onother.😚 ok right of fellowship. For the non Europeans Peace and Grace on the Israel of God. 😚😚
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