According to a recent Gallup poll, women are more likely to wear masks in public than men, 75% to 63%, and Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are more likely than their Republican and Republican-leaning counterparts, 83% to 54%.
During the H1N1 pandemic in 2009, Adirim worked in senior medical and public health roles at the Department of Homeland Security. She recalls a unified message from the federal government, making communications with the public more effective than what she’s observing today....
Jim Lincoln wrote: excerpt from,"Coronavirus: Why are Americans so angry about masks?" :huh ---
Probably because neither a particulate mask, nor a cloth mask can do what is said about them. And maybe some are adding 1+1 and coming up with 2. But we mustn't argue with "the science," right, Jim?
It isnt the government's job to mandate my health decisions, it's the Gov. Job to uphold the constitution and they are failing miserably, especially the Democrats.
Tara McKelvey wrote: In the midst of the pandemic, a small piece of cloth has incited a nationwide feud about public health, civil liberties and personal freedom. Some Americans refuse to wear a facial covering out of principle. Others in this country are enraged by the way that people flout the mask mandates.... .... The views of anti-maskers are not shared by public-health experts. They say that wearing masks helps stop infected people from passing the virus on to others. Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said recently in a webcast that if everyone in the US started wearing masks "right away", the epidemic would be brought under control within two months....
excerpt from,"Coronavirus: Why are Americans so angry about masks?"
https://tinyurl.com/y4ztaqm3
https://tinyurl.com/y5tsxhdk (Trump tweets image of himself wearing a mask and calls it 'patriotic')
Mike wrote: Well aware of dead in trespasses and sin. Still not hearing how one can be in Christ and not be saved, and if you are regenerated, you have new life, and you are indeed saved.
Bro Mike, this must be my last tonight, alas. Note,
Ephesians 2:4-7 KJV (4)Â But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, (5)Â Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) (6)Â And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: (7)Â That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
I'm going by the order the apostle puts these things in. Note,
1. The great love God has for us 2. We are dead in sins 3. He quickens us together with Christ 4. By grace we are saved 5. He has raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus
Because there is nothing between 2 and 3, and because of the teaching of Jesus about the new birth in John 3, I see a sinner who is dead being quickened by the Spirit of Jesus Christ before anything else happens.
John UK wrote: Hey Mike, 1. 2. Correct. 3. It is all to do with the two births, bro. What did you do to make yourself a human being? Nothing at all. Correct, you had no part in it. What did you do to make yourself a new creature in Christ (born again)? Nothing at all. The Spirit of God did this, and everything else flowed from this birth. Do you not believe you were "dead in trespasses and sins" and incapable of spiritual movement? But then God quickened you, gave you life, made you a new creature; and you responded just like a newborn baby responds, with a lot of noise and thirst, and an inability to articulate themselves or speak properly.
Well aware of dead in trespasses and sin. Still not hearing how one can be in Christ and not be saved, and if you are regenerated, you have new life, and you are indeed saved.
James 2:17 KJV (17)Â Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
[Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. It is like a lifeless carcass, a body without a soul, James 2:26; for as works, without faith, are dead works, so faith, without works, is a dead faith, and not like the lively hope and faith of regenerated persons: and indeed, such who have no other faith than this are dead in trespasses and sins; not that works are the life of faith, or that the life of faith lies in, and flows from works; but, as Dr. Ames observes (b), good works are second acts, necessarily flowing from the life of faith; to which may be added, and by these faith appears to be living, lively and active, or such who perform them appear to be true and living believers.] John Gill
(b) Medulla Theolog. l. 2. c. 7. sect. 35.
There are some who are fearful of even mentioning works; but the word of God has no such problem, as illustrated by this passage of scripture. So long as justification through faith is strictly adhered to, there is no worry of bringing merit into the salvation equation. Always, we remember, that Jesus has done it all.
Mike wrote: 1. John UK, moving this to the mask thread to keep on subject. (Sarcasm) 2. You asked "Mike, who said he was saved before he repented and believed? Not me." 3. Before this you said "The new creature in Christ will repent and believe...." I asked "...repents and believes to what purpose? Does he get more saved than he already is?" Unless I don't understand your statement, in which case you might clarify for me. I start from the premise that there are no creatures *in Christ* who are unsaved.
Hey Mike,
1.
2. Correct.
3. It is all to do with the two births, bro. What did you do to make yourself a human being? Nothing at all. Correct, you had no part in it. What did you do to make yourself a new creature in Christ (born again)? Nothing at all. The Spirit of God did this, and everything else flowed from this birth.
Do you not believe you were "dead in trespasses and sins" and incapable of spiritual movement? But then God quickened you, gave you life, made you a new creature; and you responded just like a newborn baby responds, with a lot of noise and thirst, and an inability to articulate themselves or speak properly.
John UK, moving this to the mask thread to keep on subject. (Sarcasm)
You asked "Mike, who said he was saved before he repented and believed? Not me."
Before this you said "The new creature in Christ will repent and believe...." I asked "...repents and believes to what purpose? Does he get more saved than he already is?" Unless I don't understand your statement, in which case you might clarify for me. I start from the premise that there are no creatures *in Christ* who are unsaved.
Tim that's true. We have some here on these threads that push a self righteous works based religion on a daily basis. They tap dance when corrected, but their false theology isn't hard to spot. You have to act a certain way, dress a certain way, talk a certain way, etc. This is the same garbage people like Paul Washer and the lordshippers teach, it's a false gospel that points away from Christ and His finished work and points to the sinner and their dead works. I was caught up in that not so long ago. The Lord gives repentance, a change of mind, to His elect. Yes, repentance from sin is part of the believers life, but it isn't evidence of salvation. That's false teaching as well. Have a pleasant day Tim.
Ladybug, if repentance from sin means to stop sinning, then you’re absolutely right, no one is saved. Proverbs 20:9–”Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?” While no one seems to want to come right out and say it, many, many Christians at least imply that salvation is contingent upon turning away from sin. (If that’s not works, I’d sure like to know what is!) I can just about guarantee that you’ll never get a straight answer when you ask, “Turn from which sins? And for how long?” Do I believe Christians should turn from sin? Absolutely. I turn from mine about 200 times an hour, on average. But I do that because I’m saved, and not in an effort of my own to get saved. Repentance from sin is something saved sinners do. Repentance from unbelief and dead works is what unsaved sinners must do. Now it’s time for ol’ Doc’s siesta, so please excuse me for a while.
James, there are some scriptures that are obviously literal, some that are obviously figurative, and others that are not so clear. The only way to know what’s what is to study, comparing scripture to scripture. I have found word studies to be helpful, where I study a word such as “repent” as well as its variations (repentance, repented, etc.). However, I would recommend doing this in addition to studying the Bible from cover to cover again and again, and not in lieu of doing so. I hope this helps. I only have the phone app, and your original question is no longer on it.
Never trust commentary. Repent in this verse is a command, it is defined by Strong's as 'change of mind'. There's no mention of the necessity to repent of sin to get saved. Works based religion will never get this. IF repentance from sin were required, no one would be saved, for no one ever stops sinning completely. That's works based dung to insist you clean up your act so God can save you...look to CHRIST ALONE!!!
Mark 1:15 KJV (15)Â And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
[repent ye, and believe the Gospel. He called them to repent, not only of their former sins and vicious course of life, but of their bad principles and tenets, concerning a temporal kingdom of the Messiah; concerning merit and free will, justification by the works of the law, and salvation by their obedience to the ceremonies of it, and the traditions of the elders: these he exhorts them to change their sentiments about, and to relinquish them, and give into the Gospel scheme; which proclaims liberty from the law, peace, pardon, and righteousness by Christ, and salvation and eternal life by the free grace of God.] John Gill
I think that just about sums it up, what I believe about these things. But if you would care to comment on what I have said or quoted, please respond and I will look in later on tonight.
Here's a great sermon on godly sorrow by Scott price https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1221191156176347. Yes, context is important, as is cross referencing. To claim universal love and salvation offered to all is based on a misunderstanding of 'world' and has nothing to do with context. That is false teaching. Universal love and salvation isn't found in God's word. What is found is Christ died for His 'sheep' those elected by God before the foundation of the world. He redeemed them, going into the marketplace and purchasing them 'out of' that marketplace. He didn't purchase the whole marketplace. He finished the work necessary to save His elect to the uttermost. The redeemed sinner still sins, contrary to what lordshippers and works based self righteous religionists teach. Think Romans 7..
2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV (10) For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Regeneration produces a godly sorrow among many other things. And this godly sorrow works repentance unto salvation. Note,
[it "worketh repentance"; it is the beginning of it, a part of it, an essential part of it, without which there is no true repentance; this produces it, issues in it, even in an ingenuous confession of sin, a forsaking of it, and in bringing forth fruits meet for repentance, in the life and conversation: and this repentance is unto salvation; not the cause or author of it, for that is Christ alone; nor the condition of it, but is itself a blessing of salvation, a part of it, the initial part of it, by which, and faith we enter upon the possession of salvation; it is an evidence of interest in it, and issues in the full enjoyment of it:] Gill
Read carefully. Far from being the cause of salvation, repentance is itself a blessing OF salvation, just as faith is a blessing OF salvation.
The new creature in Christ will repent and believe, just as a sinner will sin by his nature. 2 Cor 5:17.
Hope you got all that, Dr Tim. And the Lord bless you, brother.
Frank wrote: Thanks for your comment Tim and I agree. Interpretation of scripture should be literal where literal and figurative where figurative, e.g., Jesus is not a literal door. We do not have the authority to pick and choose. What that can lead to is eisegesis. Context, context, context.
I think you've made some good points Bro. Context should be considered . We should be able to point in Scripture where the definition is given more clearly as opposed to imposing our own and I've heard the literal where literal from many but just never seen the instruction to do so in Scripture. Compare spiritual to spiritual yes. Hey Bro Tim, didn't know if you seen my original question to you regarding this.
The self righteous look to self for evidence of salvation and regeneration. This is dead works. The evidence of regeneration and salvation is as stated in 2 Timothy 2:25, 'the knowledge of the truth'. Yes, the believer repents of sin. That is NOT the main focus or evidence of salvation. Looking unto Jesus is evidence, trusting completely on His finished work, not your 'repenting from sin' as any evidence of regeneration. There are many people who are morally upright, yet they are not saved. There are professing atheists who are model citizens. Regeneration is not about a changed life, it's about a changed mind-an understanding of truth that points away from self and to Christ. Gary Shepard does an excellent job on the 'new creation' in this sermon- https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=815191751141254
Acts 19:19 KJV (19)Â Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
I've no doubt these were genuinely saved by sovereign grace.
[Many also of them which used curious arts..... Magic arts, soothsaying, necromancy, conjuration, and the like, being convinced of the folly and wickedness of them: brought their books together; by which they had learned these arts; Ephesus was famous for this sort of learning; here Apollonius Tyaneus, in the beginning of Nero's reign, opened a school and taught magic, and such like things: frequent mention is made of the Ephesian letters, which were no other than enchantments; and even Diana, the goddess of the Ephesians, is said to be a magician: and burned them before all men; **to show their detestation of them, and the truth and genuineness of their repentance for their former sins**; and that these books might not be a snare to them for the future, nor be made use of by others:] Gill
In v18 it says they believed. That is, they had within them wrought by God, both faith and repentance. If they had carried on with their magic, I would have discounted their profession of faith.
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