Dershowitz: State has right to 'plunge a needle into your arm'
Harvard Law School emeritus professor Alan Dershowitz claimed in an interview that the government has a constitutional right under the 10th Amendment to forcibly vaccinate a citizen to curb the spread of a contagious disease.
"Let me put it very clearly, you have no constitutional right to endanger the public and spread the disease, even if you disagree. You have no right not to be vaccinated, you have no right not to wear a mask, you have no right to open up your business," he said.
The interviewer, Jason Goodman, interjected, asking if the famed constitutional scholar was saying that if the government decides "you have to be vaccinated, we have to be vaccinated."...
Mike wrote: Adriel, I guess people will have to decide for themselves who and what they trust. My wife and I have already decided that if there is a choice we had to make between being put on a ventilator and the hydroxy route, we'll go for the latter. We already know about the poor success rate on the ventilators. As data continues to come in, I don't think It will be possible to suppress it indefinitely.....
Mike; Yes I see your point entirely Mike. That is a logical choice to make in the circumstances. As for the 'politico/economic' side of things the government(s) are being autocratic about lockdowns and arbitrary in their restrictions of civil 'liberty'. The economies are taking a hammering with individual firms and businesses suffering.
What is the ulterior motive?
Their justification is prevention of virus spread. But was lockdown the only consideration available? Necessary? Is corona virus able to spread airborne anyway? Would the stats have been the same if no lockdown had been applied? Could the available health service have handled it all anyway?
Adriel wrote: Mike Appreciate the point Mike. However the heart problem connection with the hydoxychloriquine(?) has been around for Many years. Even the FDA acknowledge the probs.
Adriel, I guess people will have to decide for themselves who and what they trust. My wife and I have already decided that if there is a choice we had to make between being put on a ventilator and the hydroxy route, we'll go for the latter. We already know about the poor success rate on the ventilators. As data continues to come in, I don't think It will be possible to suppress it indefinitely. Would that folks stop thinking it still all about a disease. The curve has long flattened. As I said before, the disease is real, the fear is manufactured. Not letting a crisis go to waste continues. With the crisis segment reducing in seriousness, new elements are introduced. We shouldn't voluntarily play along.
Here is a interview with trumps top lawyer Dershowitz watch from 5.30 mark he clearly believe majority rule i.e 2 foxes 1 sheep. overrules the constitution. Health is god alchemy Not psalm 91... https://youtu.be/q3nguGR42C8
Psalms 69:29-34 But I am POOR and sorrowful: let thy salvation, O God, set me up on high. I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving. This also shall please the LORD better than an ox or bullock that hath horns and hoofs. The HUMBLE POOR shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God. For the LORD heareth the POOR, and despiseth not his prisoners. Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein. Remember people theirs nothing wrong being weak poor smoking flax.. if these do not take the darts and yet like me who say yet do . Who has done Gods will. PEACE on the Israel of God. Some will blame God for not making His Word clear enough, they will say a horse and a car are 2 different things. A needle and a dart are 2 different things. You know when its red clouds at night it will be fair weather. Sigh of the times...god of medicine's health...Id rather find Grace in the Wilderness.
Mike wrote: WHO is UN political, not medical. December, Taiwan reports to WHO its concerns about the coronavirus. Taiwan is ignored. China smiles. Later when there is to be an international meeting about it, Taiwan is excluded. China smiles. January 23. WHO says there is no evidence of human to human transmission. Merely a lie.
Mike Appreciate the point Mike. However the heart problem connection with the hydoxychloriquine(?) has been around for Many years. Even the FDA acknowledge the probs.
Adriel wrote: Mike Watch your heart..... "The World Health Organization has said it will temporarily drop hydroxychloroquine ‚ÄĒ ---
Adriel, watch your mind. FDA has approved of this med for prescription by doctors as need is determined by them for decades. It's not experimental. The vaccine the globalist looney left is looking for will definitely be experimental.
WHO is UN political, not medical. December, Taiwan reports to WHO its concerns about the coronavirus. Taiwan is ignored. China smiles. Later when there is to be an international meeting about it, Taiwan is excluded. China smiles. January 23. WHO says there is no evidence of human to human transmission. Merely a lie. January 30. WHO declares a global health emergency, praising China for its handling of the virus. Surprise. One week from no human transmission to praising Chi Comms for dragging people out of their houses, and praising them for doing so?
I'm surprised anyone would believe anything a UN group says.
"The World Health Organization has said it will temporarily drop hydroxychloroquine ‚ÄĒ the malaria drug Donald Trump said he is taking as a precaution ‚ÄĒ from its global study into experimental coronavirus treatments after safety concerns.
The WHO‚Äôs director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in light of a paper published last week in the Lancet that showed people taking hydroxychloroquine were at higher risk of death and heart problems than those who were not, it would pause the hydroxychloroquine arm of its solidarity global clinical trial." (theguardian.com)
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Also please note I was responding to John's hypothetical situation.¬†¬†Unless I was sick with the coronavirus I most likely would not take any vaccine they developed for it.
US, If it was me, I would take hydroxychloroquine/antibiotic. At least i wouldn't be a guinea pig. And there is plenty of evidence from around the world that it works. I actually know of a pharmacist (son of a friend of my wife) who was in bad shape from suspected Covid. His doctor sent out a test sample for confirmation, but felt there wasn't time to wait. He put him on the hydroxy. There was immediate improvement. Turns out it was Covid. He's recovered. Time to question the resistance to both something that works, and opening the country, especially from the usual wing nut suspects.
Those that still think c19 is real WATCH this video . Again dont know the guy but you can verify for yourself on the site he uses remember this video is already 6 week old. World Economic 4am..In plain sight..Rev 13 in plain sight. Mystery of iniquity..
B. McCausland wrote: ...discern the kind of scholarship needed...
Sister B, greetings in Jesus name, and every blessing be yours in abundance, in accordance with John 10:10. Note,
Mark 12:35-37 KJV (35)¬† And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David? (36)¬† For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. (37)¬† David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And **the common people** heard him gladly.
I have little or no interest in high falutin', intelligensia, university-style, highly-qualified Christianity. If that is your scene, enjoy it and do what you will.
Now I must off to fellowship with the saints and learn some more from the Lord.
No one should be blamed if they reckoned the ongoing posting in these different threads as the *laughing stock* of the world.
Complainign about the lack of repentance out there in the world? Well, what about the children of God when they are in the same trend?
Hence the warning,
"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"
John, just a comment. You seem media dependent for your information. Revised and sanitised sources with running agendas have usually a slant and are NOT reliable sources for drawing sound conclusions.
In another length of breath, if you are serious about finding truth in any matter, discern the kind of scholarship needed today to disprove false agendas by observing how brother Jeff Riddle discounts false scholarship of text criticism here. https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=52020210562461
Then you will be able to realise what it takes these days to arrive to the bottom of truth when dealing with false brethren, never mind what it takes to untangle the muddling information passed by a twisted world
Watchmanremo wrote: Psalm 91 and the many others .just as the watchman in Jeremiah 33..again im not here to convince anyone its the Holy Spirit.His Word nerver returns unto Him voide..There are lots of christians who take His Word by faith. And see thing can mean spiritual and physical if you want to take the firey darts in the TEMPLE of GOD its your choice.. You havent convince me or anyone else¬†¬†you should take a dart with a bio or rfid Iriverseable electropoation and¬†¬†¬†chip but he does say except for a little wine.
Never my intent, you are the one who broached the subject not me.¬†¬†Do as the Lord leads you.¬†¬†Thanks
Unprofitable Servant wrote: I am sorry but I missed the Bible verse that speaks out against the use of medicine
Psalm 91 and the many others .just as the watchman in Jeremiah 33..again im not here to convince anyone its the Holy Spirit.His Word nerver returns unto Him voide..There are lots of christians who take His Word by faith. And see thing can mean spiritual and physical if you want to take the firey darts in the TEMPLE of GOD its your choice.. You havent convince me or anyone else you should take a dart with a bio or rfid Iriverseable electropoation and chip but he does say except for a little wine.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Although I am against governmental abuse How about you?
So you are happy to deny GOD ability to keep you healthy. You rather trust the alchmist b4 God. You would rather let satans darts to enter the TEMPLE of God. Contact tracing comeing to a town near you.. U.Servant hope you know what you are doing. Please consider all what Gods Word says. Not just your understanding...Choose this day whom ye shall serve God or the gods of medicine's...There was a women in the bible who spent all her money and was none the better. You dont work for FEMA do you? Just asking. Have you ever heard in the bible lying wonder. Have you ever heard the Spirit Of HIS Word say if it were possible this could decieve the Elect? He that loves his life shall loose it, he that loose his life for my sake shall have life eternal. They shall bring you b4 there beast system. Psalm 91 is your protection. You afraid ..Proverbs 26:12-13 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him. The slothful man saith, There is a lion in the way; a lion is in the streets. You afaid of a c 19? And will allow the fiery darts of the wicked one. We ARE the TEMPLE of God. PEACE on the Israel of God
Adriel wrote: John; What is the difference between a Hippo and a Zippo? One is very heavy. The other is a little lighter.
Hey your jokes are getting better!
Now I have to leave you to it, while I prepare the popcorn, oat cakes, Welsh cakes, and a big mug of Cadbury's High Light, which is a posh name for Hot Chocolate. Research requires a lot of energy, so I will also have TicTacs on hand.