NY pastor faces $1,000 fine for holding drive-in church service
The Central Bible Baptist Church in New York, which had to discontinue its drive-in worship services after being threatened by the Massena Police Department that a fine of up to $1,000 would be imposed, on Friday challenged the claim that drive-in services violate Gov. Andrew Cuomo‚Äôs COVID-19 Executive Orders.
‚ÄúYou are mistaken in your assertion that church ‚Äėdrive-in‚Äô worship services are prohibited under New York‚Äôs current emergency orders and could result in fines,‚ÄĚ wrote The Rutherford Institute, a national, nonprofit civil liberties organization, to Police Chief Adam J. Love on Friday on behalf of the church.
The Chief of Police warned Pastor Samson Ryman, who held drive-in worship services on May 3 with 23 worshipers in 18 vehicles, that his church violated the law and he could be subject to prosecution for holding the drive-in services and would face a fine of up to $1,000....
The Quiet Christian wrote: Sounds like you are focused on better & more profitable topics, like Christ and Him crucified on our behalf, Brother John.
Quiet Brother, I believe you are right, although the devil is most keen to draw me away from "better & more profitable topics, like Christ and Him crucified on our behalf", because of the immense value of meditating on the substitutional atonement of Christ in place of his people, and like topics.
Of course we must have politics and politicians, but after I have cast my vote, I leave it alone. Why buy a cat and then chase after the rats yourself?
The Quiet Christian wrote: That juxtaposition you point out, Brother John, is one of the primary reasons I see politics and not good sense at the heart of many of the more liberal or progressive state governances here in the US. If they were all for murdering the unborn, just born, and elderly/infirm as some sort of useless eater but then argue that every life matters now, when do we expect they are telling the truth? I'm not sure. While there is something to this crisis, it is a point of leverage to easily push through certain societal changes like so many riders on federal legislation to fund the Kennedy Center for the Arts. At least that's how it seems here. What's your take on the UK?
Quiet Brother, I would answer but I am not much good on politics, it all goes over my head, sorry.
Mr Cuomo talks a lot, says he, not God, flattened the curve. He says babies can be killed right up to birth. When that law passed, he celebrated by colorfully lighting up the Empire State Building. He is responsible for thousands of unnecessary covid19 deaths of nursing home patients. He closes useful businesses, but keeps abortion clinics and liquor stores open as "essential" What a guy. Jim/Lincoln quotes him.
John of UK this might be happening over there too?
CBS News wrote: Two children and a teenager have died from the illness in New York State, according to a press release from Cuomo's office.¬†
"We have been behind this virus every step of the way and even as we are now beginning to see the numbers on the decline, the virus is still surprising us," Governor Cuomo said in the release. "Initially we thought COVID-19 didn't affect children, and now we're dealing with a disturbing issue where we have about 100 cases of an inflammatory disease in children that seems to be created by the virus."
excerpt from,"Cuomo directs New York hospitals to prioritize COVID-19 testing for children showing symptoms of mysterious illness"
Of course Boris Johnson your PM, wasn't an old geezer either, and he probably started taking this disease a whole lot more seriously after he got it ‚Ěó
Anyway, grandparents provide a lot of childcare for young working couples, so if they aren't around, it makes life a whole lot more difficult for those young families also.
That juxtaposition you point out, Brother John, is one of the primary reasons I see politics and not good sense at the heart of many of the more liberal or progressive state governances here in the US. If they were all for murdering the unborn, just born, and elderly/infirm as some sort of useless eater but then argue that every life matters now, when do we expect they are telling the truth? I'm not sure. While there is something to this crisis, it is a point of leverage to easily push through certain societal changes like so many riders on federal legislation to fund the Kennedy Center for the Arts. At least that's how it seems here. What's your take on the UK?
I would imagine that those who believe in euthanasia, if they were in power, would quite happily let the pandemic run its course, seeing as it takes out the most vulnerable in society, old codgers like me, grannies, and elderly sick, people whom the world can do without, seeing as they are no longer productive and a burden on society, in contradiction to the Christian view, which holds the elderly in very high esteem, especially those with grey hair, as the Bible says.
What amazes me is that guvs around the world are willing to self-destruct their economies on behalf of a multitude of people ripe for euthanasia, whereas if they let the virus run, not only would their economies continue to thrive, but would increase on account of benefit drainers dying, as well as the unemployed elderly paying little tax.
I feel that you Brothers have described the situation quite well. I can't honestly say the crisis was manufactured. But it was certainly managed for political purposes...and still is. My wife & I often wonder what our world will look like when this is over. One thing is for certain. It won't be the world we had prior to the lockdowns.
Flatten the curve ... allow the government to suspend the constitution. Look, if studies are honest, they will note Covid attacks vulnerable and those who care for them and in confined areas of work or community. From meat processing plants to large metropolitan areas. But most likely it was going to kill 100,000 people irregardless , flattened curves or not. The enemy was Covid and All politicians ( R and D), who panicked and suspended individual rights. Life is full of risk. Pandemic is always about us . But globalization ensured a higher death toll as did people‚Äôs fear of death. How can you tell Christian‚Äôs in rural America to stop fellowship and look at a blasted computer screen. I get as much out of listening to the SA sermons than watching a inept zoom meeting , hoping it isn‚Äôt hacked by a predator.
I wonder how much more we have to "flatten the curve" before covid19 is no longer a threat from someone in a car in a parking lot to someone else in another car in the parking lot? Oh, I forgot, this sort of deceptive rubbish hasn't been about a disease for a number of weeks now.
Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;