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SATURDAY, MAY 16, 2020  |  72 comments  |  1 commentary
H.R. 6666 a devil of a COVID-19 government surveillance plot
A House resolution from Illinois Democrat Rep. Bobby Rush that would put Big Government in charge of tracking citizens’ movements as they relate to COVID-19 mitigation efforts — even sending health bureaucrats to “individuals’ residences,” “as necessary,” as the legislation states — has a most apt number: 6666.

Mark of the beast. Mark of the beast for a beastly, monstrously unconstitutional bill.

After all, what’s more devilishly un-American than launching one of the most massive government surveillance programs of private citizens in U.S. history, all under the guise of protecting people from the coronavirus? ...


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TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic  Find all comments by TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic
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News Item5/19/2020 10:39 PM
Noname  Find all comments by Noname
Curious from Florida, the number 666 is the same as 666.666666666... and the sixes go on forever...
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News Item5/19/2020 9:56 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
No problem US...
Lords Blessings to you and yours.
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News Item5/19/2020 8:03 PM
Unprofitable Servanf | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servanf
James thanks for your response and excellent points and research. You can even include Cains mention in Hebrews 11!

All I am saying is that the mark of Cain doesn't seem to go beyond its stated meaning in Genesis 4

Thanks and God bless.

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News Item5/19/2020 11:29 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Thanks for that US and I understand your point of view concerning the mark God gave Cain.
Here's where I think we disagree though....I'm of the thought that the commerce God speaks of regarding the mark is one of a scriptural nature and that treasure being the righteousness one possess. Both Abel and Cain offered sacrifices. God accepted Abel's and rejected Cain's.

So why was Cain's rejected?

Think on this...
My grandchildren enjoy playing connect the dots to discover a picture that is not seen unless those dots are all connected. Since we both agree on Scripture interpreting Scripture should we not consider the other mentions of Cain found in Scripture to discover more "dots" than just the one in Genesis 4 to see more of the picture like those found in Jude and 1 John 3 which mention Cain and "his way"?

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

What does running greedily after the error of Balaam for reward mean?

What about The "way of Cain"?

In Rom 10:3 and Gal 3:4, Paul describes two means of righteousness. One God accepts, the other He rejects.
Just like the example of Cain and Abel as 1 John 3 teaches us.

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News Item5/19/2020 8:45 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
James Thomas wrote:
Bro. US,
That's a good observation and if Genesis 4 is all we had I would have no reason to think otherwise. I agree, God set a mark on Cain so no man would kill him. But why would God protect one who was clearly His adversary?
“Vengeance belongs to me” said God.
Deut 32:35 *To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence*; their foot shall slide in due time...
And furthermore...Deut. 32:43 ..... *he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries*, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.
I think you would agree that Abel was a servant and Cain was an adversary right?
Thank you James for your answer. I don't know why God did what He did, I could conjecture that we don't see the death penalty implemented until after the flood. The mark was clearly crime prevention, the mark of the beast is clearly commerce participation. God gave Ahab (His adversary)victories in battles and saved him out of the hand of his enemies. He didn't save Josiah from his deadly error. I really leave those things in His hands.

Brother Lurker thank you for your response

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News Item5/19/2020 5:31 AM
Watchmanremo | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanremo
Just remember foke there shall be a second wave of this fake virus but this time it will be the prince and power of the air. Mm wave. 60ghz oxygen absorption. 3000 peer reviewed scientists have proven this. One has said within 3 generation myocardial eve shall be dead attack on women. And where is the false prophet media, of course , wash your hands, wear a mask stay 6 feet, Pasteur was a fraud nasa a fraud mediacal fraud she spent all that she had and was worthless. Darwin a fraud, Westcott and Hort fraud. Our bibles tell us everything. God is The Lord of Host. He made all host in heaven earth in our Body. God is Gen2...The Temple of GOD You and Me! A DVD that helped me was Did a Good God Make Bad Bugs. In short just the wrong one in the wrong place and man made POISONs in your Body, end product dead virus or exosomes . Thats it foke Koch Postulates. Dawin 96 % Homology doesnt prove anythin nor does 80 % homology in virus or germs. I alway tell those that believe plain lies show me thrust in a vaccume not ignition but thrust and ill believe. Show me a virus purified and ill believe.5g will be blamed on this virus. 1/3 of the earth will die as the bible stated, is a christian to care? Wearing down of the saints is your body in my view. Everyone is lying to us Except God
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News Item5/18/2020 6:06 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Frank wrote:
Thanks Mike for your wise comment. I have often pondered the concept of the thousand years as one day principle. I especially did that when I used to study the rapture and other end times issues. God is simply in control and mankind are ones who often think He isn’t. I do not understand God’s timetable, but like you I simply try and praise His name for His sovereignty.
Well Frank, I'm not sure I have much in the way of wisdom. I think if I were truly wise, maybe it wouldn't bother me that I can't make sense of some things. One of my wife's favorite sayings is "It is what it is." It's not one of mine, but she definitely is wiser than I am in a lot of ways. Hope you are doing well in the Sunshine State.
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News Item5/18/2020 1:27 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
1. how does the belief that there is, as you call it a 2500 gap in the fulfillment of prophecy, some how impugns God?

2. Revelation 1:19...  Whether seen as literal or figurative, these things are said to be future.

Hey brother. All is well here and I trust with you and yours as well.

1) The most obvious example that comes to mind is Daniels 70 weeks. I think we can agree that the 70 commence immediately after the Babylonian captivity but, by most interpretations, the end of the 70 is yet future. The duration of the first 69 weeks seems to be interpreted with a consistent formula (1 week = X) but somewhere near the end of the 69th or early 70th week that formula is paused for 2,000 years and counting. Why pause a formula if the formula was correct to begin with?

That very same pause or gap is transferred all over the prophets where the gathering of Israel back to their land is interpreted as an event which began in 1948 when in fact it happened after the Babylonian captivity. How does that honor God? Evidence? Didn't Paul mention the 12 tribes of Israel?

2) I didn't say they weren't future. My point was it is profitable to consult the prophets as much of the picture language is sourced from there with context.

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News Item5/18/2020 10:49 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Sent my reply before adding that I appreciate you asking the question and that all is well with us and do hope the same is for you and yours Bro US.
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News Item5/18/2020 10:46 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Bro. US,
That's a good observation and if Genesis 4 is all we had I would have no reason to think otherwise. I agree, God set a mark on Cain so no man would kill him. But why would God protect one who was clearly His adversary?

“Vengeance belongs to me” said God.

Deut 32:35 *To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence*; their foot shall slide in due time...

And furthermore...Deut. 32:43 ..... *he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries*, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

I think you would agree that Abel was a servant and Cain was an adversary right?

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News Item5/18/2020 10:16 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Mike wrote:
If with the Lord a thousand years is as a day, and a day as a thousand years, and keeping the same ratio of comparison, perhaps with the Lord 2500 years is as 2.5 days. Would it seem out of bounds to think of it in such a way? We think of the 400 year captivity, and consider that for likely 300 or so of those years, all those who were responsible in any way for getting into that predicament were dead. Why did their descendants remain captive? God has his own timetable, whether it makes sense to our understanding of not. Personally, I can't say I always like it, but he is God, and what is true, is true.
Thanks Mike for your wise comment. I have often pondered the concept of the thousand years as one day principle. I especially did that when I used to study the rapture and other end times issues. God is simply in control and mankind are ones who often think He isn’t. I do not understand God’s timetable, but like you I simply try and praise His name for His sovereignty.
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News Item5/18/2020 9:13 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
If with the Lord a thousand years is as a day, and a day as a thousand years, and keeping the same ratio of comparison, perhaps with the Lord 2500 years is as 2.5 days. Would it seem out of bounds to think of it in such a way? We think of the 400 year captivity, and consider that for likely 300 or so of those years, all those who were responsible in any way for getting into that predicament were dead. Why did their descendants remain captive? God has his own timetable, whether it makes sense to our understanding of not. Personally, I can't say I always like it, but he is God, and what is true, is true.
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News Item5/18/2020 3:55 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Lurker wrote:
...gaps of up to 2500 years which should be an indication that something is amiss... or the Author of the bible is not that great an Author. Regarding the interpretation of the Revelation ...such speculation begins with the assumption that the book must be interpreted post 96AD. How are we to know if this assumption is correct?
Brother Lurker, I trust all is well

A couple of questions.

1. Without questioning whether your understanding of the timing of events is accurate, how does the belief that there is, as you call it a 2500 gap in the fulfillment of prophecy, some how impugns God? Is there not a 4000 year gap between Genesis 3:15 and its fulfillment? A nearly 700 year gap between Isaiah 7:14 and its fulfillment? A nearly 600 gap before the fulfillment of Joshua’s prophecy about Jericho? the Bible reminds us that God inhabits eternity, time is not always a factor in His economy.

2. Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter

At no point do the words, “which have been” appear in the verse.

Whether seen as literal or figurative, these things are said to be future.

Thank you for your time in responding, appreciate you.

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News Item5/18/2020 2:49 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Brother James, hope all is well.
Gen 4:14  Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, ***that every one that findeth me shall slay me***.
Gen 4:15  And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. ***And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.***
God clearly stated the mark on Cain was in response to Cain’s concern that every one that found him would slay him and it states the Lord set a mark on Cain lest any finding him should kill him.
Is there a reason to find a hidden meaning when the passage is clear? Do we not both believe that the best interpreter of the Bible is the Bible? I really see no need to render the mark on Cain as any relation to the mark of the Beast in Revelation 13.
Thanks
St James, I will second this statement by Unprofitable Servant, just so you know that it not a spurious and rare piece of literature.
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News Item5/17/2020 9:53 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
James Thomas wrote:
As far as the mark of the beast,
I think the worshipping the creature passage in Romans is not different than the worshipping the beast in the Revelation. And furthermore the mark set on Cain in Genesis 4 is one in the same as the one mentioned in the Revelation.
Brother James, hope all is well.


Gen 4:14  Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, ***that every one that findeth me shall slay me***.
Gen 4:15  And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. ***And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.***

God clearly stated the mark on Cain was in response to Cain’s concern that every one that found him would slay him and it states the Lord set a mark on Cain lest any finding him should kill him.

Is there a reason to find a hidden meaning when the passage is clear? Do we not both believe that the best interpreter of the Bible is the Bible? I really see no need to render the mark on Cain as any relation to the mark of the Beast in Revelation 13.

Thanks

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News Item5/17/2020 9:43 PM
Curious from Florida | Florida  Find all comments by Curious from Florida
I meant that the bill should be entitled H.R. 666 --the mark of the beast.

Hello everyone. I've really enjoyed reading the very interesting and wise comments from everyone regarding this article. A blessed day to all of you.

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News Item5/17/2020 9:32 PM
Curious from Florida | Florida  Find all comments by Curious from Florida
666
Mark of the beast
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News Item5/17/2020 7:12 PM
Watchmanremo other name | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanremo other name
I am not sure if people still believe that in 70ad and early church believed that Christ return was imminent even.a.casual reading of.1.and.2 thess the giant of a man Paul who was taught every thing in the wilderness no apostles ..he clearly taught and rejected the notion that one, the resurrection had already come nor that Jesus was coming or Jesus was about to come they were waiting for gospel preached to all nation great falling away man of sin revealed. Just some thoughts. Will the last Christian be because this irriversable dna change be.the siffting of His Floor the wheat separating of the tares. Just some thought.Peace and Love . Just remember we all can only be taught if we are as a child..and even by a chlid or a rooster or a donkey. All scripture is given.... his providences are scripture his creation both in heaven and earth are but especially the Parchments and a weak and foolishness of preaching by sound. Test the spirits. Still small voice as a nurse or a father. Father forgive them for they know what they do.
More thoughts
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News Item5/17/2020 5:25 PM
Watchmanremo | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanremo
1 Thessalonians 5:1-11
[1]But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
[2]For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
[3]For when they shall say, Peace and... destruction cometh upon them, as night
2 Thessalonians 2:1-5
[1]Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2]That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4]Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5]Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? Foxes at night tares at night Judus went out immedially night. Faith is better developed love is better to say i might be wrong than to continue than just in case Peace and Love in Christ. Rev 1 .1-3 Is The key Only N.T Book To Have An Extra blessing . SIGNIFIED, Read ,HEAR,KeeP.Time is at Hand
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