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TUESDAY, MAY 12, 2020  |  24 comments
Most field hospitals in $660 million project treated ZERO coronavirus patients
Field hospitals set up across the United States to help medical providers cope with the flood of coronavirus patients cost an estimated $660 million.

But most are being dismantled without seeing a single patient, reports NPR.

For example, a 1,038-bed hospital in Stony Brook, New York, contracted for more than $155 million saw no patients.


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News Item5/14/2020 11:18 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
danfromtenn wrote:
Amen to the Scofield junk comment! I used to rely on his notes in my Scofield Reference Bible until discovering how wrong they are (i.e. Jewish fables which Titus 1:14 warns about). I now keep it in a cabinet with other supposedly Christian books to refer to when refuting Dispensationalism.
Thanks Dan. Ah, you have a heresy bookcase for reference. Nice plan.

I well remember my Scofield. It was a hardback, and it too started falling to pieces. At the time, as a very young Christian, I was buying up Bibles wherever I could find them at a good price. The Scofield was 50p, less than a dollar.

The notes seemed to be so useful, they were there on every page, and a lot of theological terms were explained, which I found helpful. But also the dispensational system was promoted, and after a couple of years, having now read the Bible for myself, I discounted it as incorrect and ceased using that Bible. My Bible history, largely affected by the church I was attending at the time is: KJV, NIV, NKJV, KJV.

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News Item5/14/2020 7:19 AM
danfromtenn | Tennessee  Find all comments by danfromtenn
John UK wrote:
I bought a NKJV, to go alongside my Scofield Annotated Bible (KJV), which I found in a junk shop and ought to have left there.
Amen to the Scofield junk comment! I used to rely on his notes in my Scofield Reference Bible until discovering how wrong they are (i.e. Jewish fables which Titus 1:14 warns about). I now keep it in a cabinet with other supposedly Christian books to refer to when refuting Dispensationalism.
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News Item5/13/2020 2:42 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
That's it Bro!

What you said above is nothing more than Scripture interpreting Scripture and dealing with what is said apart from any preconceived notion and a willingness to be taught by His word as He promised He would. (Isa. 54:13, John 6:45)
St James, that is right, and if there is any scripture to turn to, in order to make the sense of another passage clearer, then it ought be turned up; and to others if there are any. This is how the great theologians arrived at their conclusions and enabled them to write their commentaries or statements of faith. Anyone with enough time on their hands can write a commentary or statement of faith. But it does take time, and resources.
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News Item5/13/2020 2:12 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
John UK wrote:
Ah James, the saintly one, you remind me of those days when I used to colour in my NIV according to themes, and write out in the margins all references to the OT, just as you did there. It rather surprised me that most of the book of Revelation had already been prophesied in the OT, so it was just a matter of putting the two texts side by side and learning from them both.
That's it Bro!

What you said above is nothing more than Scripture interpreting Scripture and dealing with what is said apart from any preconceived notion and a willingness to be taught by His word as He promised He would. (Isa. 54:13, John 6:45)

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News Item5/13/2020 1:44 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
The Quiet Christian wrote:
1. I do not completely agree with that the Apsotle John's record is quite so figurative, although there is clearly some. But I didn't see what he saw either. We cannot be sure how things appear from the other side of the Veil ...
2. Concur that saints do not have that mark, but you raise an important distinction in loyality to one's sovereign, I believe, in your point to ponder.
1.The language is figurative and the figures are self-explained by others parts of scripture.
For instance, it is obvious how the beasts can be considered as ongoing socio-political entities, the horses are ongoing divine purposes in action and direction, the vials comprise the content of God's will in store, the thunders speak of God's positive pervasive presence and determination, and so on.
It all depends on the lenses of your escathological take.

2. Many instances of tyranny have brought to mind the mark of the beast to different generations.
Presently, if identifying forceful ID vaccination with the mark of the beast, believers would be left with not chance.
But the mark of the beast includes the worshipping of the system and ultimate perdition.

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News Item5/13/2020 12:21 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
Here's an example:
Rev 11:3-4 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are *the two olive trees*, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Zech 4:11-14 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these *two olive trees* upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
Ah James, the saintly one, you remind me of those days when I used to colour in my NIV according to themes, and write out in the margins all references to the OT, just as you did there. It rather surprised me that most of the book of Revelation had already been prophesied in the OT, so it was just a matter of putting the two texts side by side and learning from them both.
It was a 1984 NIV and it was the last NIV I bought, because when it fell to pieces, I bought a NKJV, to go alongside my Scofield Annotated Bible (KJV), which I found in a junk shop and ought to have left there.
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News Item5/13/2020 11:20 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
danfromtenn wrote:
My KJV says it was about the sixth hour which is around noon. That's a big difference/problem!
Dan, you got it on the button bro. Virtually every Bible says the sixth hour, noon, or midday; but for whatever reason the translators at God's Word thought it meant six in the evening, along with the Holman Bible.

I don't know what's wrong with those people, unless it is just the mad rush to publish and make some filthy lucre in a hurry.

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News Item5/13/2020 8:39 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
The Quiet Christian wrote:
Good point, James. There are lots of faulty opinions that will be cleared up as soon as the Lord returns, starting with my own, Brother.
I think the best we can do is read that book with prayer and keep our eyes open, as our Brother Carl has done, to signs of the times.
Thanks for your humble thoughts QC and I don't disagree with anything you said. I would add something to the equation though and that being reading the book of Revelation with the rest of God's word being the guiding light, defining the figurative terms for us, comparing spiritual with spiritual as Paul instructed in 1 Cor 2:14-16.

Here's an example:

Rev 11:3-4 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are *the two olive trees*, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Zech 4:11-14 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these *two olive trees* upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

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News Item5/13/2020 7:14 AM
danfromtenn | Tennessee  Find all comments by danfromtenn
John UK wrote:
Jacob’s Well was there. Jesus sat down by the well because he was tired from traveling. The time was about six o’clock in the evening. John 4:6 God's Word 1995
Anyone see a problem with that?
My KJV says it was about the sixth hour which is around noon. That's a big difference/problem!
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News Item5/13/2020 3:54 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Jacob’s Well was there. Jesus sat down by the well because he was tired from traveling. The time was about six o’clock in the evening. John 4:6 God's Word 1995

Anyone see a problem with that?

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News Item5/13/2020 12:41 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Good point, James. There are lots of faulty opinions that will be cleared up as soon as the Lord returns, starting with my own, Brother.

I think the best we can do is read that book with prayer and keep our eyes open, as our Brother Carl has done, to signs of the times.

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News Item5/12/2020 10:50 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Seems to me the figurative language may be already defined for us if we look for it.
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News Item5/12/2020 10:49 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
I'm just curious in the thought process on defining the terms found in the Revelation.

Why not look back into the OT and other NT books for the same terms used in the Revelation so as to arrive at an objective understanding?

Hosea 12:10
I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and **used similitudes**, by the ministry of the prophets.

Matt 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and **without a parable spake he not unto them**:

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News Item5/12/2020 9:32 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Excellent points, Mrs. McCausland. We often see parallels to that coming time, and it bears watching. Our Brother Carl has clearly been watching with his eyes and His Bible open, a commendable example.

I do not completely agree with that the Apsotle John's record is quite so figurative, although there is clearly some. But I didn't see what he saw either. We cannot be sure how things appear from the other side of the Veil, where spirit and solid appear alike and maybe even time is not what we are accustomed to experiencing. It makes me take his word for it.

Concur that saints do not have that mark, but you raise an important distinction in loyality to one's sovereign, I believe, in your point to ponder.

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News Item5/12/2020 2:06 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Carl in Asheville wrote:
... Makes you wonder if the Media has become that talking image of the beast in Revelation 13:15 --- Rev 13:15 SOMB It was permitted to give breath to the beast’s image so that the image would even speak and cause all who refused to worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Thanks for linking your thoughts to this particular chapter. Thought provoking.
Many broad guidelines and principles of thought can be gleaned when meditating on the narratives of figurative speech in the book of Revelation.

***

Just as a point of curiosity for all to ponder about.
Those receiving the mark of the beast on his hand or forehead worship the beast and are destined to the eternal torment. Compare Rev.13:16-17 with Rev. 14:9-11
So saints do not have the mark.

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News Item5/12/2020 11:07 AM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
"" to help medical providers cope with the flood of coronavirus patients cost an estimated $660 million.
But most are being dismantled without seeing a single patient, reports NPR.""

Whoops!!! 🤷‍♂️

Now. What else can we spend the tax money on?

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News Item5/12/2020 10:54 AM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Thanks Mike and Carl, your posts on this thread are the only rational ones that I can understand..maybe it my age.😉
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News Item5/12/2020 9:46 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Headline doesn't surprise if we understand there never was going to be the overwhelming of the hospitals by covid19 patients. The Jacob Javits center was also set up to take care of many patients as well. Not needed. That Navy hospital ship stayed in the harbor at NYC for some time, 1000 beds. Andrew Cuomo pleaded for it, and Trump sent it. They didn't quite get to use 200 beds. But the good governor sent unrecovered covid patients back to nursing homes. We pretty much know where that leads. In a nursing home not too far from here, one covid patient was sent back. 21 have died of it since. Death culture people are either addle-brained, or evil. It's hard to believe it's all a big mistake, and that it's just good intentions gone bad.
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News Item5/12/2020 9:23 AM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Gay M Allen if your post was directed at me, would you be so kind to repost it again in plain English, I have know clue what you said.
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News Item5/12/2020 8:32 AM
Gay M Allen  Contact via emailFind all comments by Gay M Allen
Thanks John, this i believe too. Have a good one and God Bless
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