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FRONT PAGE  |  8/8/2020
WEDNESDAY, MAR 25, 2020  |  10 comments
AA works better than other approaches
Worldwide, alcohol misuse and dependence are responsible for 3.3 million deaths per year, 10 times the number of fatalities from all illicit drugs combined.

Alcoholics Anonymous not only produced higher rates of abstinence and remission, but it also did so at a lower cost, the Cochrane review found. A.A. meetings are free to attend. Other treatments, especially those that use the health care system, are more expensive.

Another study found that for each additional A.A. meeting attended, health care costs fell by almost 5 percent, mostly a result of fewer days spent in the hospital and fewer psychiatric visits. ...


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Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
True, John. The Great Commission doesn’t stop at making converts. It also includes making disciples.
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News Item3/26/2020 3:50 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Thank you brethren for your testimonies, they brought great joy to my heart, and glorified the Lord, the great Heart-Changer.

Dr Tim, you more than most will know the need of directing converts in the correct spiritual direction for deliverance and restoration to some semblance of normality. I know it is not always easy, and some will struggle, but hearkening to the Lord always produces good fruit. In most cases, as you yourself have proved, a true and good conversion, with a new birth and infilling with the Spirit, will itself, without any instruction of men, produce a most remarkable change in the immediate.

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News Item3/25/2020 3:11 PM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Texas  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
I was released from drinking through the gospel and by traveling with an Vernon McGee and my Pilgrim study bible. ( that bible ain’t in print, no more)
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News Item3/25/2020 1:55 PM
Carl in Asheville | North Carolina  Find all comments by Carl in Asheville
Wow, Jim. I agree with you. It is only one step with Jesus: "Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart; and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
(Mat 11:28-30)
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News Item3/25/2020 10:57 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
​Pastor John MacArthur, in his book Our Sufficiency in Christ, on page 67 states the following in regard to human/secular therapies:

​Human therapies are embraced most eagerly by the spiritually weak - those who are shallow or ignorant of biblical truth and who are unwilling to accept the path of suffering that leads to spiritual maturity and deeper communion with God. The unfortunate effect is that these people remain immature, held back by a self-imposed dependence on some pseudo-Christian method or psychoquackery that actually stifles real growth.

Pastor John MacArthur, in his book The Truth War, on page 159 addresses the 12 steps as follows:

​Others would formally affirm Christ's sovereignty and spiritual headship over the church, but they resist His rule in practice. To cite just one instance of how this is done, many churches have set various forms of human psychology, self help therapy, and the idea of 'recovery' in place of the Bible's teaching about sin and sanctification."..."So wherever the work of God's Word is being replaced with twelve step programs and other substitutes, Christ's headship over the church is being denied in practice.

https://tinyurl.com/smr3go6 ( Views and Commentary on the Twelve Steps)

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News Item3/25/2020 10:21 AM
Carl in Asheville | North Carolina  Find all comments by Carl in Asheville
Dr. Tim wrote:
Carl, let me tell you about the most wonderful rehab program ever... To anyone struggling with addiction of any type, may I say that faith in Jesus Christ is the way to overcome it.
Amen! Yes, and Amen!

And for me, immediately stopped smoking pot and cigarettes, stopped popping speed and Darvon, stopped drinking beer and alcoholic spirits, and (more importantly) stopped fornicating and carousing with "friends" who encouraged me to do those things. "Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!"

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News Item3/25/2020 9:55 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Carl, let me tell you about the most wonderful rehab program ever. One day I was reading the Bible and I suddenly realized I was a sinner doomed to spend eternity in hell. I didn’t know what to do about it, but a couple of weeks later I found a gospel tract on the side of the road, read it, and when I read for the first time in my life thise glorious words, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved,” I did and I was. I immediately went and poured all my booze down the sink, threw my cigarettes in the trash, and took all my rock and roll albums out to the dumpster. No man told me I should do those things, and I still had not set foot in a church service, so it definitely wasn’t a case if “IFB pietism,” as Fred calls it. It was immediate, supernatural transformation wrought by the Spirit of God. To anyone struggling with addiction of any type, may I say that faith in Jesus Christ is the way to overcome it.
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News Item3/25/2020 8:57 AM
Carl in Asheville | North Carolina  Find all comments by Carl in Asheville
I am sure that the study does not include those who attended both AA and spiritual counseling via church attendance, Bible Studies, or direct counseling from a church elder. I could also add direct counseling via prayer to his Wonderful Counselor.
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News Item3/25/2020 7:45 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
True, John, and Bible-based addiction recovery programs have a much higher success rate than the measly 27 percent that AA has.
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News Item3/25/2020 3:40 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
The Christian has a better way of dealing with unwholeness.
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