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FRONT PAGE  |  4/15/2021
MONDAY, FEB 3, 2020  |  19 comments
Barr: 'Militant Secularists'' trying to 'impose their values' on others
U.S. Attorney General William Barr clapped back at leftwing hysteria over his support of the First Amendment Tuesday in an interview with Cardinal Timothy Dolan on Sirius XM.

“I feel today religion is being driven out of the marketplace of ideas and there’s a organized militant secular effort to drive religion out of our lives,” Barr told Dolan. “To me the problem today is not that religious people are trying to impose their views on nonreligious people, it’s the opposite — it’s that militant secularists are trying to impose their values on religious people and they’re not accommodating the freedom of religion of people of faith.” ...


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News Item2/9/2020 10:51 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Mike wrote:
Maybe you don't want to answer it, Jim.
Trying to help you here Jimbo.

Here is Mike's question

Jim, which part of Barr's statement do YOU feel is untrue, and why (do YOU think so)?

That would require an answer with no irrelevant quotes from other people.

Here again is the quote in question

“I feel today religion is being driven out of the marketplace of ideas and there’s a organized militant secular effort to drive religion out of our lives,” Barr

are you avoiding the question because you are part of the problem?

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News Item2/9/2020 9:46 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln[/AUTHOR
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Maybe, this will answer your question, Mike?
Maybe you don't want to answer it, Jim.
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News Item2/9/2020 6:40 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I have sometimes and interesting time of it, when looking for one thing and finding another. looking around for the evil effects of a state Church on a thread about Scotland I came up on this interesting article about !Attorney General Barr. It is worth reading. Apparently Mr. Barr is a Catholic? His Notre Dame speech certainly raise some questions❗
Carlo Invernizzi-Accetti wrote:
Bill Barr’s ‘secularists’ speech runs counter to key themes of Catholic, and more broadly, Christian theology.
excerpt from, "The unholy alliance of the religious right and Trumpism is deeply anti-Christian"

https://tinyurl.com/uxau5zh

The author who I somewhat suspect isa Catholic gives his reasons in a somewhat long Guardian article. Well, long for a Guardian article

Maybe, this will answer your question, Mike?

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News Item2/4/2020 8:52 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Different speech but same topic, Mike.
excerpts from, " Bill Barr’s First Epistle to the Heathens"
https://tinyurl.com/tokk5pj
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Nice sidestep of the question, Jim.
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News Item2/4/2020 1:34 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Different speech but same topic, Mike.
Matt Ford wrote:
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Barr’s reference to “angry and alienated young males” is particularly striking because of what he doesn’t list as threats to religious liberty and the “traditional moral order.” He does not mention, for example, the gunman who killed six members of a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012. Or the one who murdered nine black parishioners in Charleston in 2015. Or the one who killed eleven Jewish worshippers at a Pittsburgh synagogue last year—the deadliest anti-Semitic massacre in the history of the republic. Anti-Semitic hate crimes recently surged to some of their highest recorded levels in the last 40 years.

It’s hard to imagine a more urgent threat to the free exercise of religious beliefs than these attacks. I don’t doubt that Barr is troubled by them. But their omission from his narrative simply underscores that his concern isn’t so much about the future of religious liberty, but the future of Christian hegemony in American public life....

excerpts from, " Bill Barr’s First Epistle to the Heathens"

https://tinyurl.com/tokk5pj

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News Item2/3/2020 7:19 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Why, Timothy, just sycophants all over the place❗👎 Mike Pence and Barr are two good examples for Trump. Apparently, these sycophants have been reading the old writings of Lahaye and Falwell
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From the news:“I feel today religion is being driven out of the marketplace of ideas and there’s a organized militant secular effort to drive religion out of our lives,” Barr told Dolan

Jim, which part of Barr's statement do you feel is untrue, and why?

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News Item2/3/2020 5:58 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
James, you've not a word about the message, only an attack in the messenger.
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News Item2/3/2020 5:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why, Timothy, just sycophants all over the place❗👎 Mike Pence and Barr are two good examples for Trump. Apparently, these sycophants have been reading the old writings of Lahaye and Falwell
Joseph D. Harder Ph.D. wrote:
LaHaye was not the only evangelical leader in this period to allege the pernicious influence of humanism. Several of them wrote glowing back-cover blurbs for his book.
... LaHaye, "The Battle for the Mind"...
...In 1982, Kennedy told the delegates at a joint gathering of the National Religious Broadcasters and the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) that “secular humanists have declared war on Christianity in this country and they are progressing very rapidly.”...
...Both LaHaye and Falwell asserted that it was a “sin” that there were millions of non-voting American Christians; Falwell could usually get a laugh in speeches by asserting that it was a minister’s duty to get people “saved, baptized and registered to vote.”...
excerpt from, '"Heal Their Land": Evangelical Political Theology From the Great Awakening to the Moral Majority"

https://tinyurl.com/sswpdgw

The above author isn't hostile to evangelicalism, but he doesn't seem to be too happy about mixing religion and politics together.

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News Item2/3/2020 5:22 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Joel from Pensacola says.
"Hi everyone, welcome to King Jim’s PoliticsAudio."

Yes this is true, but only if we let him...

Trolls get very happy when you respond to their trolling. Jim Lincoln is way too inactive to troll a bridge like most trolls, so he came here to try...

Just don't let him...

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News Item2/3/2020 4:51 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Eric Holder, the Obama sycophant who conspired with his boss to refrain from enforcing laws they didn’t like. Either you’re blind, Jim, or you think the rest of us are.
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News Item2/3/2020 3:56 PM
Douglas Fir | Land of Pleasant Living  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
This is so obvious, and it helps explain why President Trump's popularity has gone up despite all the trash talking that the Democrats and their pals in the media have been doing ever since he was elected. Here we are in 2020 and they are talking the same garbage on the floor of the US Senate, as if anyone but their friends were paying attention.
After that historic Election Night Nov 2016, I hoped the media would do an 'about face' and start reporting on why people voted the way they did. Even as 'handmaidens' to the Democrat Party, they would have been helping them develop a counter-attack.
Instead, they have spent all their time in attack mode.
Can you remember all the different attacks they had? First, the Yale psychologist said the President was insane. Then there was the 'Russian collusion' based on a phony report that the Clinton campaign paid for through a law firm to hide their involvement.
A friend who told me he tried out his local newspaper for 13 weeks for $26 is telling me he will not renew because of this bias that is evident on nearly every page. The coupons made the subscription pay for itself, but how many times do you need to buy laundry detergent, shampoo or toothpaste?
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News Item2/3/2020 3:46 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
From Article:-
""Barr told Dolan. “To me the problem today is not that religious people are trying to impose their views on nonreligious people, it’s the opposite — it’s that militant secularists are trying to impose their values on religious people""

Ah but don't forget God's warning.....
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Eph 6:12.

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News Item2/3/2020 2:52 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Mike, I did mention that Eric Holder was a Democrat!
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It is good to know you acknowledge using them as a trustworthy source is bad idea. Do you always use your own bad ideas, Jim?

Eric Holder, first sitting member of a cabinet to be cited for contempt of Congress. Good source pick, Jim.

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News Item2/3/2020 11:37 AM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
Hi everyone, welcome to King Jim’s PoliticsAudio.
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News Item2/3/2020 10:57 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike, I did mention that Eric Holder was a Democrat!

Well, since Mr. Barr doesn't really have a point to make, except, "Two wrongs make a right", QC?

I should have quoted some of the other comments that are cogent to the article that SA has:

Eric H. HolderJr. wrote:
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Not long after Barr made that speech, he issued what seemed to be a bizarre threat to anyone who expresses insufficient respect for law enforcement, suggesting that “if communities don’t give that support and respect, they might find themselves without the police protection they need.” No one who understands — let alone truly respects — the impartial administration of justice or the role of law enforcement could ever say such a thing. It is antithetical to the most basic tenets of equality and justice, and it undermines the need for understanding between law enforcement and certain communities and flies in the face of everything the Justice Department stands for....
excerpt from, "Opinions | Eric Holder: William Barr is unfit to be attorney general"

https://tinyurl.com/wp287bp

Yes, and Mr. Holder is still a Democrat.

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News Item2/3/2020 10:22 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Very predictable, Jim. Attack to discredit the source rather than address the message which is the anti-thesis of your message.
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News Item2/3/2020 10:17 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Mr. Barr is not without his critics, QC.
excerpt from,"Opinions | Eric Holder: William Barr is unfit to be attorney general"
https://tinyurl.com/wp287bp
The above was stated by Democrat
Quoting Eric Holder? Now there is a trustworthy source😡
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News Item2/3/2020 8:13 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mr. Barr is not without his critics, QC.
Eric H. HolderJr wrote:
....
As a former U.S. attorney general, I am reluctant to publicly criticize my successors. I respect the office and understand just how tough the job can be.

But recently, Attorney General William P. Barr has made a series of public statements and taken actions that are so plainly ideological, so nakedly partisan and so deeply inappropriate for America’s chief law enforcement official that they demand a response from someone who held the same office.

Last month, at a Federalist Society event, the attorney general delivered an ode to essentially unbridled executive power, dismissing the authority of the legislative and judicial branches — and the checks and balances at the heart of America’s constitutional order. As others have pointed out, Barr’s argument rests on a flawed view of U.S. history. To me, his attempts to vilify the president’s critics sounded more like the tactics of an unscrupulous criminal defense lawyer than a U.S. attorney general....

excerpt from,"Opinions | Eric Holder: William Barr is unfit to be attorney general"

https://tinyurl.com/wp287bp

The above was stated by Democrat.

And:

https://tinyurl.com/y42yaxvy (Barr Misled the Public—And I

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News Item2/3/2020 1:47 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Sounds like Dominionism to me.

Funny how we're not the only ones noticing this trend.

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