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FRONT PAGE  |  4/15/2021
THURSDAY, JAN 30, 2020  |  11 comments
Willow Creek Confirms Abuse Allegations Against Gilbert Bilezikian
A longtime church member shared in a public Facebook post Saturday that Gilbert Bilezikian—known widely as “Dr. B.”—kissed, fondled, and pressured her to have sex with him between 1984 and 1988.

“We believe that Dr. B engaged in inappropriate behavior, and the harm he caused was inexcusable,” Willow Creek’s acting lead pastor Steve Gillen wrote Monday in an email to church staff obtained by Religion News Service.

The Willow Creek Elder Board confirmed in an update posted online Tuesday night that the church had decided to restrict Bilezikian from serving there after the church member came forward with allegations against him about a decade ago. ...


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News Item2/1/2020 7:26 PM
Hugh | Scotland  Find all comments by Hugh
Thought it worth sharing


traveller to a North American Indian convert,
“Man, what is the reason that you make so much of Christ, and talk so much about Him? What has this Christ done for you, that you should make so much ado about Him?” The converted Indian did not answer him in words. He gathered together some dry leaves and moss and made a ring with them on the ground. He picked up a live worm and put it in the middle of the ring. He struck a light and set the moss and leaves on fire. The flame soon rose and the heat scorched the worm. It writhed in agony, and after trying in vain to escape on every side, curled itself up in the middle, as if about to die in despair. At that moment the Indian reached forth his hand, took up the worm gently and placed it on his bosom. “Stranger,” he said to the Englishman, “Do you see that worm? I was that perishing creature. I was dying in my sins, hopeless, helpless, and on the brink of eternal fire. It was Jesus Christ who put forth the arm of His power. It was Jesus Christ who delivered me with the hand of His grace, and plucked me from everlasting burnings. It was Jesus Christ who placed me, a poor sinful worm, near the heart of His love. Stranger, that is the reason why I talk of Jesus Christ and make much of Him." (J C Ryle)

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News Item2/1/2020 6:21 PM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Texas  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
Anytime your congregation becomes larger than 300 people, you’re attending because of contacts and affiliations. If you’re leading a church of over 300 it’s because your ego wants more contacts, affiliations and affirmation.
How hard is it to think that some horse stone story about dear old mom didn’t make it a problem to kiss the hands of women. I visited a church one my mother recommended- the pastor hugged all the women as they left. I was in line when one coed said, “ get in line for pastor’s hug so he can cup you without anybody seeing him do so- umm, I left and avoided my handshake. Years later I saw him performing at a bar b que joint on free beer night. And no, I was eating bar b que and drinking sweet tea.
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News Item2/1/2020 3:29 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Neil wrote:
Probably because of 1) shame, and 2) little hope her charges would be taken seriously by cowardly male leadership less interested in justice than in institutional self-preservation. Protect the important man at all costs, be he a priest or politician, and if the accuser makes even a minor mistake in procedure, jump on them for it.
Contrary to what self-deluded feminists think, women have always needed to be protected against cads like this, in churches ever since 1 Sam. 2:22: "Now Eli ... heard all that his sons did unto all Israel; and how they lay with the women that assembled at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation."
And of course women can in turn falsify such charges too. This is why prudent leaders should keep their office doors open when meeting with women.
As far as Bill Hybels is concerned:

https://tinyurl.com/vuz54mw (Bill Hybels Resigns from Willow Creek---Megachurch pastor “accelerates” October retirement weeks after former colleagues went public with misconduct allegations.)👍

He has been gone for two years now

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News Item1/30/2020 2:13 PM
Douglas Fir | Land of Pleasant Living  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
Sounds like the 'Billy Graham Rule' would be helpful here, but women complain that it limits their chances for advancement in the corporate world. Executives would rather choose other guys to travel with, have those business dinners with, etc, rather than a woman that they have to constantly be checking for 'ulterior motives.'
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News Item1/30/2020 10:57 AM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Neil says...
"This is why prudent leaders should keep their office doors open when meeting with women."

Completely agree. There is no situation in which a man should be alone with a woman except his wife...

Any other situation has a chance to turn dangerous and sticky...

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News Item1/30/2020 10:37 AM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
...and have their wife in the room.
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News Item1/30/2020 10:22 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Just a Guy wrote:
While I understand that abuse is wrong in every way, why did it take her so long to come out?...
Probably because of 1) shame, and 2) little hope her charges would be taken seriously by cowardly male leadership less interested in justice than in institutional self-preservation. Protect the important man at all costs, be he a priest or politician, and if the accuser makes even a minor mistake in procedure, jump on them for it.

Contrary to what self-deluded feminists think, women have always needed to be protected against cads like this, in churches ever since 1 Sam. 2:22: "Now Eli ... heard all that his sons did unto all Israel; and how they lay with the women that assembled at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation."

And of course women can in turn falsify such charges too. This is why prudent leaders should keep their office doors open when meeting with women.

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News Item1/30/2020 10:10 AM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
Wow, JAG, you kinda just, well, just hit the nail on the head, didn’t you?
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News Item1/30/2020 9:02 AM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
While I understand that abuse is wrong in every way, why did it take her so long to come out?...

When someone doesn't say anything for over 30 years, I start suspect, that whatever happened must have been done with some approval of the person...

Something as terrible as abuse should, never take 30 years to be opened. If it does take that long, it sort of the fault for both parties. Dr. B. is at fault for what he did, and she is at fault for not saying anything...

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News Item1/30/2020 12:37 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Read the two articles on the left side panel of the main article. You will see how Bill Hybels the founder of the Willow Creek Church got kicked out.

https://tinyurl.com/tw6zwwp (Bill Hybels--General Teachings/Activities)

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News Item1/30/2020 12:13 AM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
What in the world is Willow Creek?
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