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FRONT PAGE  |  9/21/2020
FRIDAY, JAN 24, 2020  |  20 comments
More Non-Evangelicals Are Calling Themselves Born Again
Just as more Americans are becoming religiously unaffiliated (“nones”), there’s another major shift happening on the other side of the religious spectrum. More people today say they are “born again” than at any point in the past three decades.

Some might assume the continued rise of born-again Christians reflects the steady portion of evangelical Protestants in America, while mainline Protestants, who are less likely to call themselves born again, have undergone more rapid decline. But actually, across all Christian traditions—even mainline denominations and Catholics—born-again identity is trending up. ...


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News Item1/26/2020 10:36 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Absolutely right, BMc. No one and no thing can “confer grace” but the Lord Himself.
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News Item1/26/2020 9:03 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Adriel wrote:
Sacrament
"a visible sign of an inward grace, especially one of the solemn Christian rites considered to have been instituted by Jesus Christ to symbolize or confer grace: the sacraments of the Protestant churches are baptism and the Lord's Supper"
This is a man made definition, Adriel. Not valid.
BTW, the 'confering of grace' comes as a relic from the "dung hill of popery", the second line reformers, say the puritans, would say.

**

Evangelical protestant
We are called to live unto the Lord.
The meaning of 'sacred' is to be set apart unto holiness.
By this definition then every thing in our lives should be sacred.
We should not take that the ordinances are differently made sacred by a mystical hocus pocus of doctrinal imagination or belief which again comes from popery.

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News Item1/26/2020 1:35 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Joseph D. Harder wrote:
....Bebbington, in a definition often cited by historians, also includes conversion in his four-fold definition of evangelicalism: “conversionism, the belief that lives need to be changed; activism, the expression of the gospel in effort; biblicism, a particular regard for the Bible; and what may be called crucicentrism, a stress on the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.” While evangelicals have differed in various particulars, they have shared these characteristics.

Who, then, are “fundamentalists”? In short, fundamentalism is a sub-type of
evangelicalism that developed an emphasis in the early twentieth century on defending what its adherents saw as orthodox Christianity against those who were attempting to “modernize” the faith....

excerpt from, '"Heal Their Land": Evangelical Political Theology From the Great Awakening to the Moral Majority"

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1067%26context%3Dhistorydiss&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjxydye85_nAhWIKs0KHVEtCe0QFjAAegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1rrDdiaXZkK0g8w4vuRHSG

[Download or view as PDF]
Done by Nebraska pastor working for his doctorate in history at University of nebraska-lincoln❗👍

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News Item1/25/2020 9:08 PM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
Well, Joel—you are so right.
I tried the modern “identification” ideology by going to Sams Club. I told them I was identifying as a member—so I asked them kindly to refer to me as “Member Steve” and that should be good enough.
But THEY seem to think that just because I say I’m something, it doesn’t mean I am.
Just saying.
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News Item1/25/2020 5:38 PM
TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic  Find all comments by TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic
AS PUBLICLY STATED BY MYSELF, A TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic,
IN THE OPEN FORUM TRUE HOLY BIBLE STUDY; THIS PAST WEDNESDAY AT THE ORIOLE CHRISTIAN ASSEMBLY, CHICAGO, IL:

"WHETHER YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT; THAT, ALTHOUGH IN THE NEW TESTAMENT OF THE TRUE (KING JAMES) HOLY BIBLE: THERE IS A THREE/3-FOLD DIVISION AS TO HOW GOD/CHRIST VIEWS THE WORLD--THAT IS--ALL OF MANKIND IS DIVIDED INTO THREE/3 SEPARATE &-OR DISTINCT DIVISIONS, GROUPS, PARTS OR 'CAMPS': #1.'THE JEWS', #2.'THE GENTILES' &
#3.'THE CHURCH OF GOD':

'GIVE NONE OFFENCE, NEITHER TO THE JEWS, NOR TO THE GENTILES, NOR TO THE CHURCH OF GOD:'--1 CORINTHIANS 10:32

ALBEIT, IN ACTUALITY & IN TRUTH, THE WORLD; THAT IS, ALL HUMAN BEINGS UPON PLANET EARTH: CAN BE CATEGORIZED INTO ONLY ONE/1 OUT OF TWO/2 SEPARATE & DISTINCT GROUPS, CLASSES, CLASSIFICATIONS &-OR 'CAMPS':

#1.THOSE WHO'VE BEEN HOLY-BIBLICALLY/HOLY-SPIRITUALLY 'BORN-AGAIN' ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN 3:1-16.

&

#2.THOSE WHO'VE NOT BEEN HOLY-BIBLICALLY/HOLY-SPIRITUALLY 'BORN-AGAIN' ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN 3:1-16.

SO, ALL YOU SITTING HERE TODAY ARE EITHER:

#1.AN UNREGENERATE &-OR NON/UN-BORN-AGAIN
+++CHILD OF THE DEVIL+++-'JEW' OR 'GENTILE'

-OR-

#2.A SPIRITUALLY BORN-AGAIN +++CHILD-OF-GOD+++ &-OR MEMBER OF 'THE CHURCH OF GOD' " ! ! !

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News Item1/24/2020 8:08 PM
Evangelical Protestant  Find all comments by Evangelical Protestant
So are we to assume that "ordinances" are not considered sacred, hallowed, or consecrated?
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News Item1/24/2020 7:22 PM
XRC  Find all comments by XRC
Always a quote from the WCF or dictionary but not from the Bible, because there is none.👎
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News Item1/24/2020 6:39 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
Sacrament
"a visible sign of an inward grace, especially one of the solemn Christian rites considered to have been instituted by Jesus Christ to symbolize or confer grace: the sacraments of the Protestant churches are baptism and the Lord's Supper"
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News Item1/24/2020 6:30 PM
JD Saved by Grace | Florida  Find all comments by JD Saved by Grace
XRC: Truth
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News Item1/24/2020 5:13 PM
XRC  Find all comments by XRC
Dr.Tim is correct.Search high and low in the Bible and you’ll not find ‘sacrament’.
Works based religion is enamored with religious things to do.👎
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News Item1/24/2020 5:02 PM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
Well, God did ordain that we love the brethren so that might be a sacrament -er- ordinance too. Just maybe.
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News Item1/24/2020 5:00 PM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
Just two ordinances. No sacraments.
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News Item1/24/2020 4:47 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Two ordinances, Adriel. Zero sacraments. Sacraments are a works-based invention of Roman Catholicism and are not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. There are no sacraments in Christian churches.
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News Item1/24/2020 4:05 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
"As has been argued in previous chapters, the Protestant doctrine of the church distinguishes between the visible and the invisible church, the former including any congregation or collection of congregations where the Word is rightly preached and the sacraments are rightly administered. As Augustine put it, "There are many sheep without and many wolves within" this visible church. It consists of all baptized Christians and their children who profess the name of Christ, but it is assumed by Protestants that there are many in this visible church who are like the seed that fell on rocky ground or that were choked by weeds. In other words, not everyone who professes the name of Christ has exercised true saving faith. By contrast, the invisible church consists of the full number of the elect of all ages, none of whom may be lost."
(M.S. Horton)

2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of."

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News Item1/24/2020 1:07 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Joel's comment really sums it all up, and John's comment really fleshes it all out.

One never knows how the Lord will use such declarations. Perhaps some will come to a true and saving faith? Perhaps it is another effort by our Adversary to further sow confusion and redefinition?

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News Item1/24/2020 11:46 AM
The Anonymous Baptist  Find all comments by The Anonymous Baptist
It'll probably become even more common with superstars like Kanye West and others like him calling themselves "born-again" (not judging their salvation), that those who follow him will call themselves born-again without even having a basic understanding of it. Sad...
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News Item1/24/2020 10:08 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Russell Moore wrote:
Moore makes a Hasty Generalization, and in any case, what naïve academics like him don't understand is, Christians want rulers who will let them alone, and however flawed Trump may be, he's tons better than Commie Democrats who reward immorality and persecute the righteous.

Besides, Moore constantly pontificates on political issues and endorses "Christian Democracy," a species of Catholic Social Teaching. Sounds like he has transgressed your "political neutrality" doctrine.

Sure you want to popularize this "Dominionist" as a credible source?

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News Item1/24/2020 8:02 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
It's as true now as it was four years ago.
Russell Moore wrote:
....
The word “evangelical” has become almost meaningless this year, and in many ways the word itself is at the moment subverting the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Part of the problem is that more secular people have for a long time misunderstood the meaning of “evangelical,” seeing us almost exclusively in terms of election-year voting blocs or our most buffoonish television personalities. That’s especially true when media don’t distinguish in election exit polls between churchgoers and those who merely self-identify as “born again” or “evangelical.”....

Many of those who tell pollsters they are “evangelical” may well be drunk right now, and haven’t been into a church since someone invited them to Vacation Bible School sometime back when Seinfeld was in first-run episodes.

The other problem is the behavior of some evangelical leaders. I have watched as some of these who gave stem-winding speeches about “character” in office during the Clinton administration now minimize the spewing of profanities in campaign speeches, race-baiting and courting white supremacists,.....

excerpt from,

https://tinyurl.com/jkzyxsn (Why this election makes me hate the word ‘evangelical’)

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News Item1/24/2020 3:21 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
It has always been the case that multitudes of religious reprobates have not a clue about real Christianity, and would be unable to accurately define biblical terms such as born again, converted, quickened, enlightened, redeemed, propitiation, justified, adopted, sanctified, and on and on.

A new creature in Christ Jesus is born again, born a second time. And thusly are different; they have the Holy Spirit and are filled with love for God and their fellow man.

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News Item1/24/2020 12:52 AM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
Calling yourself something doesn’t automatically make it true.
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