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FRONT PAGE  |  7/12/2020
SATURDAY, JAN 18, 2020  |  89 comments
Cash, Plastic or Hand?
Amazon.com Inc. AMZN -0.70% wants to make your hand your credit card.

The tech giant is creating checkout terminals that could be placed in bricks-and-mortar stores and allow shoppers to link their card information to their hands, according to people familiar with the matter. They could then pay for purchases with their palms, without having to pull out a card or phone.

The company plans to pitch the terminals to coffee shops, fast-food restaurants and other merchants that do lots of repeat business with their customers, according to some of the people. Amazon declined to comment. ...


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News Item2/3/2020 8:53 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
John UK wrote:
St James, are you serious? Show me how you go about interpreting the following verse of scripture.
Revelation 13:18 KJV
(18)  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
So far, I have that six hundred threescore and six is the number of a man who is also a beast. I can't seem to get past that, bro.
John,
While I'm happy to share, I can see this study would be quite involved and more questions would arise. Unfortunately time is not on my side right now to do so. When I do get the time I will shoot you an email.
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News Item2/2/2020 12:13 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
Simple, allow the Scripture to interpret itself. Consult the prophets where the topic of discussion is spoken of with a contrite heart. Follow the citations. Seek biblical definitions. Iron can sharpen iron, just need to keep humbly seeking to be taught of Him as He promised He would((Isa 54:13, John 6:45).
St James, are you serious? Show me how you go about interpreting the following verse of scripture.

Revelation 13:18 KJV
(18)  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

So far, I have that six hundred threescore and six is the number of a man who is also a beast. I can't seem to get past that, bro.

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News Item2/2/2020 10:10 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
John UK wrote:
St James, different men can study only the scriptures and come up with different interpretations. What happens then?
Simple, allow the Scripture to interpret itself. Consult the prophets where the topic of discussion is spoken of with a contrite heart. Follow the citations. Seek biblical definitions. Iron can sharpen iron, just need to keep humbly seeking to be taught of Him as He promised He would((Isa 54:13, John 6:45).
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News Item2/2/2020 9:40 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
St James, different men can study only the scriptures and come up with different interpretations. What happens then?

Don't tell me. Yours is the correct one.

Or in my case, Mine is the correct one.

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News Item2/2/2020 7:38 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Thank you for the kind reply regarding your perception St. John.

My entire point to that post was to show how your opinions on what I say are being articulated along with your correlations and then you present them as if they are all proven facts.

You have provided another example of this in your last post in your implying that I have elevated myself above past theologians. That is your perceived opinion and nothing more. The truth is, I don't elevate myself above them John; I just recognize them as men just like me who are fallible and because of that John is why I advocate using Scripture as the measuring stick and not ANY theologian.

That's it.

I am of the opinion that just because a popular theologian has said it and many people believed it does not make it a fact and should not be the validation of any truth. What saith the LORD should hold that title.

When we read 2 Tim 3:16, In following Paul's example, we are not to depart from the pages within the covers of the bible to put things to the test. But some don't see it that way and instead would take for example J. Gills's commentary conclusions as the measuring stick even though it could be demonstrated that it stands in contradiction to Paul and the prophets commentary. Blessings to you John

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News Item2/1/2020 10:50 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
St James, allow me to answer your questions by telling you how you come across to me, whether or not I hear you clearly.

Over several years you have made a great effort to convince others not to bother with reading the works of other Christian men throughout the history of the church; rather to read the word of God and study it deeply. [However good this might be, not all are able to do it, plus the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ has given gifts to the individual members of the church, including teaching and preaching the word of God, so it kinda knocks your idea on the head.]

Just recently, you say that for years you studied the works of other men. But a eureka moment put paid to that, when God got you to study for yourself. This has resulted in you becoming far better than any theologian you have read in the past; thusly you elevate yourself above such divines as Charles Spurgeon, John Owen, John Ryle and countless others.

Therefore, and remember this is how I see it, you ought rather to merely promote the study of God's word, without any commentary on your part, lest you go against your own principles of not studying the works of other men.

Do you see how I arrived at those thoughts?

Blessings to you.

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News Item2/1/2020 7:07 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
John UK wrote:
1. ... trying to convince others you are the only one worth reading?

2. Seeing as you haven't studied the writings of other men like yourself...

John, Just two points from your comments to me.

1. Where have I tried to convince others that I'm the only one worth reading?

Please provide my post where you thought that to be the case!

2. How could you possibly know If I have or have not studied the writings of other men?
Do you make it a practice to simply impose what you think may be the case and state it as a fact?

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News Item2/1/2020 8:16 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
Thanks for the assurance but unfortunately, that is all I did for years John; that is, Studying other men's thoughts. I'm most thankful God put it in my heart to study the thoughts of His heart.
Psalm 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
Have a blessed day!
Well well, St James. Now I find that very interesting.

I wonder what peculiar theologians in particular you used to read which never seemed to have done you any good.

Of course, as I've said before, if God put it in your heart to study the thoughts of his heart, why not promote that, instead of acting the theologian and trying to convince others you are the only one worth reading?

Notwithstanding, I am glad you are seeking to get at the truth directly rather than being spoon-fed. I do agree with that part, and seek it myself from the word. This is why I come in for so much flak from spoon-fed unthinkers.

However, God has given to the universal church multitudes of most excellent men, for the benefit of his people, and I personally recommend the reading of men like Spurgeon and Ryle and John Gill for assistance in understanding.

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News Item2/1/2020 7:38 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
John UK wrote:
St James,
Seeing as you haven't studied the writings of other men like yourself, let me assure you that theologians do actually do that.
Thanks for the assurance but unfortunately, that is all I did for years John; that is, Studying other men's thoughts. I'm most thankful God put it in my heart to study the thoughts of His heart.

Psalm 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.

Have a blessed day!

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News Item2/1/2020 3:20 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
St. John,
My intention was to note that Gill looked to other Scripture for answers which is what I understand we are instructed to do per Paul's example.
St James,
Seeing as you haven't studied the writings of other men like yourself, let me assure you that theologians do actually do that.
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News Item1/31/2020 7:02 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Mike wrote:
The Lord saw fit to let me find a 200 year old Bible in the attic of a house we bought, led me to read some of it, and led me to believe what it said. No coincidence.
Hey Mike,
My wife and I enjoy being grandparents very much. The grands are such a joy be around and being a part of seeing so many firsts with them in life that we may have missed in our own children due to work or other reasons.
Thank you for sharing that most wonderful testimony. I could not help but think that it gives the perfect picture of what "Faith coming by hearing the word of God" means.
He knew then and knows now what He's doing with His Word and with us as His own as well. We are in good hands.
Thanks and God's blessings to you and yours!

St. John,
My intention was to note that Gill looked to other Scripture for answers which is what I understand we are instructed to do per Paul's example. Me not agreeing with Gill has nothing to do with a long departed brother, but everything to do with following where Scripture leads. But like I said, that's another conversation which I'm not inclined to enter into right now. Blessings to you and pray those aches and pains you have depart for good.

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News Item1/31/2020 1:42 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
St. John,
Thank you for your post. I was thinking of the modern day preachers more so than the ones like you provided by Gill when I made that comment. At least Gill made an attempt to provide some light in Isa. 25 by mentioning 1 Cor 15. Can't say I agree with his conclusion, but that's another conversation which I'm not inclined to enter into right now.
St James, you say..

"At least Gill made an attempt to provide some light in Isa. 25 by mentioning 1 Cor 15."

This is a portrayal of a theologian most foul. "Made an attempt"? And what is this "mentioning 1 Corinthians 15"? He didn't "mention" it, he said that this was the conclusion, the fulfilment of Isaiah 25. Read it again bro and be blessed.

Would you like me to quote several dozen modern theologians who also think the same way? Methinks you imagine yourself to be the only Christian who can interpret scripture aright, which gives you a cult-like status in your own mind. And isolating yourself from what other men believe leads to speculating what they believe or don't believe. Which is not a good way of going on.

Just sayin'.

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News Item1/30/2020 7:46 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Mike wrote:
... In any case, I know we approach Scripture differently, so I won't say much. They are secondary issues in reality, not worth long struggling with brothers or sisters over.
A short story: I admit to reading literally unless it can be clearly, simply shown to be otherwise. It's how I was brought to leave the RCC after spending my first 29 years with it. I just could not make sense of what I spent my life believing, when the Bible clearly said said that which was contradictory to my upbringing. The Lord saw fit to let me find a 200 year old Bible in the attic of a house we bought, led me to read some of it, and led me to believe what it said. No coincidence. Where was truth? I could believe what it said, or I could believe what was taught by the RCC. Choosing the Scripture had no alternative, or more correctly, the Lord made it obvious by leading me to those chapters and verses which I needed to see truth. I looked for no hidden meanings. And here I am, warts and all.
This is a tremendous testimony of God's grace, Mike, for which we rejoice.
Thank you
He brings his own to himself in his own way granting saving faith. Blessed be God.
The way you believed is the way forward.
Take care
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News Item1/30/2020 7:05 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
James Thomas wrote:
---
Thank you Mike for sharing your thoughts and stirring my grey matter up a bit.
Thank you for all your work, James. Hope you enjoyed your grandparent duties! Sorry for the lack of/late response, but life often gets in the way of our plans. In any case, I know we approach Scripture differently, so I won't say much. They are secondary issues in reality, not worth long struggling with brothers or sisters over.

A short story: I admit to reading literally unless it can be clearly, simply shown to be otherwise. It's how I was brought to leave the RCC after spending my first 29 years with it. I just could not make sense of what I spent my life believing, when the Bible clearly said said that which was contradictory to my upbringing. The Lord saw fit to let me find a 200 year old Bible in the attic of a house we bought, led me to read some of it, and led me to believe what it said. No coincidence. Where was truth? I could believe what it said, or I could believe what was taught by the RCC. Choosing the Scripture had no alternative, or more correctly, the Lord made it obvious by leading me to those chapters and verses which I needed to see truth. I looked for no hidden meanings. And here I am, warts and all.

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News Item1/30/2020 5:49 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
St. John,

Thank you for your post. I was thinking of the modern day preachers more so than the ones like you provided by Gill when I made that comment. At least Gill made an attempt to provide some light in Isa. 25 by mentioning 1 Cor 15. Can't say I agree with his conclusion, but that's another conversation which I'm not inclined to enter into right now.

Thank you Mike for sharing your thoughts and stirring my grey matter up a bit.

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News Item1/29/2020 5:23 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
..than ANY theologian's guesses..
St James, not ALL theologians made wild guesses. Check this out.

"Isaiah 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory,.... Or, "for ever". This is to be understood, not of a spiritual death, which is swallowed up in conversion, and of which those that are quickened shall never die more; nor of the conversion of the Jews, which will be as life from the dead; nor of the civil death of the witnesses, and of their rising, who afterwards will never die more, in that sense; but of a corporeal death: this Christ has swallowed up in victory, by dying on the cross, both with respect to himself, who will never die more, and with respect to his people, from whom he has abolished it as a penal evil; but it chiefly respects the resurrection state, or the personal coming of Christ, when the dead in him shall rise first, and shall never die more, there will be no more death, neither corporeal, spiritual, nor eternal to them; on them death shall have no power, in any shape: and then will this saying be brought about or fulfilled, as the apostle has interpreted it, 1Cor 15:54 ....." John Gill

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News Item1/28/2020 9:22 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
For example simple searches like "wipe away tears".  Only three mentions in the bible and all speak to the same subject. 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfmCriteria=wipe+away+tears&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1

Isa 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

Why not read the Chapter found in Isaiah for counsel and also for that matter Paul's citation of it in 1st Corinthians? All are within the context of the exact same event.

1 Cor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Would you agree then that Isaiah and Paul can teach us a more accurate portrayal on what God said in the Revelation than ANY theologian's guesses since they do speak to the same exact event?

That wraps it up.

Thanks Lurker!

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News Item1/28/2020 9:15 PM
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News Item1/28/2020 9:08 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Thanks Bro,

To ward off these private interpretations, His Word must be THE lamp to our feet so that the Revelation can treated as an integral part of the organic whole of the bible as opposed to a stand alone and furthermore interpreted in that light of the OT and NT citations which eliminates the guess work reaching out post 96 AD in secular history for anything that may seem to fit.  But by reaching back into Scripture to define the mysterious figures of the Revelation rather that reaching forward, we can then be guided by the only reliable source we have been given by God to do so.  

I need one more...

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News Item1/28/2020 8:19 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
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