Breakthrough or a threat?: Research on genetics of same-sex behaviour ignites ethical debate
Are sexual preferences genetic?
According to a recent paper in Science, the answer is at least partially yes. By screening close to 500,000 DNA samples, researchers identified five locations in the genome that were significantly associated with same-sex sexual behaviour.
âThis work supports the notion that there is a biological component to sexual behavior,â wrote Benjamin Neale, one of the studyâs lead authors and a member of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard. âI am hopeful that these results will strengthen the argument for legal protections for LGBTQIA+ individuals and improve acceptance.â
Within weeks of publication, however, Neale was already calling out âa gross and dangerous mischaracterization of the workâ â an app called âHow Gay Are You?â...
Stevenr wrote: John UKâ âAh, you have seen some of these "imaginary" Yee Ha preachers, eh?â
Not certain what you meant by imaginary. I have sat in a multitude of services in the past 27 years. I am IFB, so trust me, they arenât imaginary.
You know that, I know that, but there are some here who deny their very existence, so that they can continue to accept preachers who are nothing like Jesus Christ nor the apostles in their manner or method of preaching.
As for your point, I do agree Steven. A sinner is a sinner. And all sinners are hell-bound. Whether a nominal Christian in the Methodist choir, a serial killer, or a homosexual or lesbian, all are just as guilty as I was before mine own conversion. The gospel being a gospel of God's grace, it behoves us to preach it with grace, showing that God commends his love towards us in that Christ died for sinners, to save them. That Jesus did not come into the world to condemn it but save it.
This gospel does not say, "Turn or burn." It says, "Come to Christ, believe on him, trust him, call upon his name, cry out to him."
This is the main difference between works and faith salvation.
John UKâ âAh, you have seen some of these "imaginary" Yee Ha preachers, eh?â Not certain what you meant by imaginary. I have sat in a multitude of services in the past 27 years. I am IFB, so trust me, they arenât imaginary. Chrisâsorry I was misinterpreted, not calling you outâit was cautionary for the extremes on both sides. Many are in the ditch on the right, (the Yee Haw preachers,) and there is a knee jerk reaction to compensate that puts people like Lisa in the ditch on the left. Still a ditch, and isnât helping anyone. My goalâevidently missed was not to apologize for Homosexuals, and not to blast them, but to caution those who name the name of Christ to reach out to them with compassion and honesty, and not just a âYouâre going to burn unless you stop.â
John UK wrote: You're welcome bro. ______________ Pilgrim Brother, I'm still awaiting email. Not fixed yet? This poor pilgrim is suffering much from the travel thingies, and getting me down. But if they keep me from contracting typhoid or other serious illnesses, I guess it will have been worth it.
Brother, I did email you using my wife's account. If you didn't get anything, then I'll try and find it and resend. I am going to set up another email soon. Technical things confuse me.
Just remember that where you are going, blasphemy against Mohammed is not tolerated. Be careful. The Lord protect you and give you grace to serve Him in spirit and truth.
Dr. Tim wrote: Or am I misreading your condemnation of preachers whose style you donât particularly care for?
Dr Tim, the style of preacher whom I like is the one who carries the anointing of the Spirit, which is evident in his preaching, because it keeps the congregation awake no matter whether he is preaching quietly and softly, or loud and raucous. When a man is thusly anointed he can preach an hour and a half and the time goes just like a flash. It is so awesome that often the people are hushed and struck dumb. They listen, they are dealt with by the Lord himself.
Sadly we see very little of such in these last days.
Re-read my post and you will see that the hollerin' and hootin' was coming not from the preacher but the congregation. It is a technique to apply peer pressure to all, that all will come out of the church service like sausages in a pack, everyone the same.
It may be hard to be isolated, but I am isolated for the Lord, and stand against all man-made techniques for getting the congregation to do my will. We need the work of Almighty God by his Spirit, not sales techniques of men.
Our Lord also lifted up His voice when He preached. In other words, He hollered. I think we should all be careful about imagining that our personal preferences are the right way, and every other way is wrong.
John UK wrote: Ah, you have seen some of these "imaginary" Yee Ha preachers, eh? They convince their congregation through the Yee Ha technique, which gets the congregation hootin' and hollerin', which everyone goes along with, lest they become isolated and censured by the others. Human nature wishes to belong to the crowd rather than stand alone on the word of God. Martin Luther can teach us much on standing alone with Jesus Christ, which is better than being a hooter or a hollerer. After 39 years I am still standing alone in my district on the subject of X-mass. You'll not find a tree, bauble or decoration in my humble abode. Rather you will find me studying and pondering on the massive subject of the Great Incarnation of God in the Person of Jesus Christ the Lord, which was for the whole purpose of saving God's elect from their sins, redeeming them, every one, through his victorious sacrifice at Calvary 33 years after his birth, and his glorious resurrection and ascension into heaven, hallelujah!
Hey Pilgrim! I also never felt comfortable with those preachers that holler and/or start crying. I don't judge their motives, but simply don't feel comfortable with that.
I know of no other blatant sin where the sinners go to court so as to force others to accept and support their sin. When was the last time it was heard that a robber, a child molester, a serial killer, a home invader, a kidnapper, etc. went to court to get legal public support for their corruption?
John, do you ascribe some particular merit to the preachers (so called at least) who read their sermons in a dry-as-cracker-juice monotone while being careful not to disturb the sleeping parishioners? In other words, do you suppose that a preacher who is as wooden as the pulpit on which he leans is somehow superior to the one who with tears of compassion and a heart full of love stirs the emotions, intellect and will of the congregation? Or am I misreading your condemnation of preachers whose style you donât particularly care for?
Stevenr wrote: ... People will jump up-and-down and scream and hoot and holler when you preach on homosexuality...
Ah, you have seen some of these "imaginary" Yee Ha preachers, eh? They convince their congregation through the Yee Ha technique, which gets the congregation hootin' and hollerin', which everyone goes along with, lest they become isolated and censured by the others. Human nature wishes to belong to the crowd rather than stand alone on the word of God.
Martin Luther can teach us much on standing alone with Jesus Christ, which is better than being a hooter or a hollerer.
After 39 years I am still standing alone in my district on the subject of X-mass. You'll not find a tree, bauble or decoration in my humble abode. Rather you will find me studying and pondering on the massive subject of the Great Incarnation of God in the Person of Jesus Christ the Lord, which was for the whole purpose of saving God's elect from their sins, redeeming them, every one, through his victorious sacrifice at Calvary 33 years after his birth, and his glorious resurrection and ascension into heaven, hallelujah!
What a great series of comments! I already mentioned that I wasnât aware of anyone who claimed that homosexuality was the greatest sin. I could make a philosophical argument that those who promote it or condone it do more damage. Somehow people feel if they are accepted culturally, then they are okay. But, there is no safety in numbers!!
I think the strongest structure is the family and everything flows from it and anything that undermines Godâs design for it is evil. God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply and of course that cannot be done by the same sexes.
...the act of homosexuality goes directly against the natural order that God set up, and it seems to me that God is particularly grieved by this sort of thing/wickedness. I view sodomy as being far and away different, and more greivous than the common theif or adulterer, but I am not minimalizing their sins, which are also worthy of death and punishment.
There are many places, throughout God's Word, where he lumps many sins together, in one breath, but sodomy and beastiality are often singled out, and warned against all on their own, which give them special weight, it seems to me, but I can agree to disagree. Bottomline is that I don't remember anyone ever claiming that homosexuality trumps all, or that all other sins are trivial, and not worthy of discussion, or condemnation, in comparison.
We greive for them, but you seem to have mistaken the comments as sitting in judgement, and waving our fingers as if we are better than anyone. No, only by God's unmerited grace am I not with them, or one of their supporters. I'm no better, but I've been given sight to see, and the knowledge to flee. We need to speak up and out in love, and with a genuine concern for their eternal souls. Nobody has ever said, as the publican, "Thank God I'm not as these", with pride in their hearts.
...with the ACLU, mainstream media, social media, and liberal Hollywood being their powerful voice used to take down, and ruin any detractors.
My main concern is for the youth who have seen suicide rates skyrocket over the transgenderism nonsense that the LGBTQ community has lobbied so hard to successfully normalize within society. Not to mention the rampant child abuse since the sodomites were given the greenlight to foster, adopt, use any gender restroom/locker room they so choose, and infiltrate the cub/boy scouts, etc.
I comment on these topics at times because they have infected an entire nation, and have severly confused and damaged this nation's youth; condoning, promoting, encouraging, and glamorizing their wicked deeds, and even claiming that God Almighty is good to go with all of it.
I don't put the common theif into the same category, nor the adulterer that you mentioned. They are sinners, living in sin, and we are all sinners, yes, but they don't spend their waking moments on missions to turn this nation's children, and overall, ignorant societal populace, against God Almighty, or trying to convince all that their ways are the new ways, so get on board, and stop being a bigoted hater.
Steven, seems to me that this topic is a bit more personal for you in some way. The two things I noticed is that you cherry picked my comments, and had nothing at all to say against Lisa's take.
Yes, the destruction of Sodom, began with pride...I get that, but to infer that stealing a candy bar and homosexuality are on even playing fields; sin, is sin, is sin,is exactly what the "Christian" homosexual community finds comfort in..."don't judge us, we are all sinners".
Why do I often respond to these sorts of topics? The homosexuals have gone from hiding in closets, to infecting an entire nation, confusing an entire nation of children, glamorizing their wicked deeds, breaking through a taboo barrier, where now, they and the things they do, are celebrated and encouraged, and they are convincing themselves, and the ignorant, that God Almighty made them that way, while telling the children, "God made you that way...so just be you, and ignore the haters". Ridiculous.
They have overwhelmed this nation's courts with frivolous litigation, incessantly hunt down, and attack Christian owned businesses, have fully infected the public school system, public librarys, and every public crevice of this nation;effectively silencing any criti
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 âKnow ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.â
The only foul and evil iniquity which passes from parent to child is "SIN"
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
Abomination. - A foul thing (loathsome on account of its stench), a detestable thing; (Tertullian abominamentum)
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:" = Looks as though Mammon, its followers and Abomination are well looked after by Satan. Satan's temptations show him to own the world and its riches ... Matt 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me."
Abominations, that which defiles and all that deceives and lies shall never get into heaven. "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:" Rev 21:27. That means they will belong to hell and damnation for eternity.
Stevenr wrote: My Bible tells me in Romans that âWhile we were yet sinnersâŠ Christ died for us.â He accepts us in our sinsâŠ And changes us into something that glorifies Himâbut that isnât always an immediate change. But, to let a homosexual think that they can/should glorify God while staying in their homosexuality? Absolutely not. But againâŠ Itâs no different than a Christian committing adultery with a member of the opposite sex. I suppose Iâm rambling at this pointâŠ Speak to textâŠ You lose trackâŠ iâm just simply trying to say that in order to win the lost, the lost has to see us being honest with the Word of God.
Thanks for your responses. They do help clarify things! I will say that you and I probably do look at these issues differently. But, we are much closer than when we started.
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I was away from the computer.
My Bible tells me in Romans that âWhile we were yet sinnersâŠ Christ died for us.â He accepts us in our sinsâŠ And changes us into something that glorifies Himâbut that isnât always an immediate change. But, to let a homosexual think that they can/should glorify God while staying in their homosexuality? Absolutely not. But againâŠ Itâs no different than a Christian committing adultery with a member of the opposite sex. I suppose Iâm rambling at this pointâŠ Speak to textâŠ You lose trackâŠ iâm just simply trying to say that in order to win the lost, the lost has to see us being honest with the Word of God.