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FRONT PAGE  |  11/17/2019
Choice News WEDNESDAY, NOV 6, 2019  |  19 comments
Top Scientist Challenges Evolution
If ideas are also subject to the survival-of-the-fittest principle, is evolution doomed to extinction? This question is again raised now that yet another scientist has questioned Charles Darwin’s famous 19th-century theory.

At issue is the new book Foresight: How the Chemistry of Life Reveals Planning and Purpose, which has been endorsed by three Nobel Laureates. It was authored by a Dr. Marcos Eberlin, who himself has some weighty credentials, as he is “a physical chemist who specializes in spectrometry and supervises a large lab in Brazil that has produced hundreds of doctoral-level scientists, is former president of the International Mass Spectrometry Foundation and author of more than 1,000 research papers,” writes attorney and medical doctor John Dale Dunn at American Thinker.

Dunn explains that Dr. Eberlin “studies the molecules that make up those really small things — one more level down ...


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News Item11/8/19 6:45 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Hey Brother,
Here is what I was referring to regarding reproduction.
Imagine a cell forming out of nothing and then that cell multiples and forms a human being; somehow overcoming the irreducible complexity of our vital organs. IOW, none of our vital organs can be alive unless they all are alive. Now, let’s say this human exists, but it obviously can’t reproduce. So, no evolutionist can or will hazard a guess as to how this entire process could start over again and somehow form the opposite sexual organ necessary to reproduce.
In a hurry, so I hope this makes sense.
Thank you brother. I'll leave it there, because these things are way over my head. You know what I mean, eh?
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News Item11/7/19 12:34 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I agree to a certain extent, Brothers. But having been confronted with the truth of both the Bible and empiracle evidence and they refuse to turn, there are two impacts:

1. They will stand utterly guilty before the throne of judgment. Many were sent but all voices with the truth were ignored. This is the place of everyone who hears the Gospel but does not repent and turn to the Lord in faith, even though that faith is a gift from the Lord Himself. No one has an excuse per Romans 1.

2. Those creation ministries which call out to lost scientists, presenting both the Gospel & alternative scientific outcomes, at least do not have the blood of their co-workers on their hands, e.g. Ezekiel 33.

John 9 deals with the kind of utter blindness you are describing. I am grateful to the Lord for His opening of my eyes both to Himself and the truth of Who He is and His work in both creation and sustaining, even though I still see through the glass darkly (1 Corinthians 13).

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News Item11/7/19 11:57 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Mike wrote:
...Evolutionists never asks the right questions because they don't want to hear the answers.
Exactly, which is why attempts to reason with them, as creation ministries do, are futile not only because empiricism is faulty, but more importantly, they are depraved. Recall Jesus's conclusion to His story of Lazarus in Luke 16:31:
"... If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

So those who claim they would believe if provided sufficient evidence are being disingenuous.

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News Item11/7/19 11:36 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Frank wrote:
Hey Brother,
Here is what I was referring to regarding reproduction.
Imagine a cell forming out of nothing and then that cell multiples and forms a human being; somehow overcoming the irreducible complexity of our vital organs. IOW, none of our vital organs can be alive unless they all are alive. Now, let’s say this human exists, but it obviously can’t reproduce. So, no evolutionist can or will hazard a guess as to how this entire process could start over again and somehow form the opposite sexual organ necessary to reproduce.
In a hurry, so I hope this makes sense.
Good post, Frank. Evolutionists never asks the right questions because they don't want to hear the answers.
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News Item11/7/19 10:52 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Adriel, the climate change claims do not bother me because I am living well above sea level.

Amen bro, and I liked what Neil said also.
I wonder if you could post those two questions brother, which you have posed to evolutionists in the past, and they just looked at you - gone out, sorta.

Hey Brother,

Here is what I was referring to regarding reproduction.

Imagine a cell forming out of nothing and then that cell multiples and forms a human being; somehow overcoming the irreducible complexity of our vital organs. IOW, none of our vital organs can be alive unless they all are alive. Now, let’s say this human exists, but it obviously can’t reproduce. So, no evolutionist can or will hazard a guess as to how this entire process could start over again and somehow form the opposite sexual organ necessary to reproduce.

In a hurry, so I hope this makes sense.

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News Item11/7/19 6:47 AM
Carl in Asheville | North Carolina  Contact via emailFind all comments by Carl in Asheville
Jim, the difference between Hume and you is the same as the difference as Hume and Darwin. Darwin had no way of seeing the evidence that Hume and others are now seeing. Science is just one of the tools that allows man to assess the wonders and designs of nature's Maker; and thus give Him glory. But deniers are only suppressing the truth about God.
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News Item11/6/19 10:47 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Apparently, Neil, some people don't agree with you about the accuracy of David Hume's
So they're wrong too - you're good at finding easy targets. I'm not commending everything Hume wrote, but I don't need him to argue that "rational mechanism" doesn't logically imply Jehovah designed it. How do you know, from evidence, that there isn't one god of plants and another of animals? It is just as plausible as saying one god designed both. And how do you know it isn't, say, Allah? Thus the hopelessness of the Teleological Argument for apologetics.

And a "Best explanation" isn't a "true explanation."

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News Item11/6/19 10:28 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
What's interesting to me is that the Lord's "fingerprints" are all over His creation if we'd look closely enough. And these little calling cards of obvious design point people to Himself. Creation, particularly the stars
in Psalm 19, reflects God's glory, pouring forth knowledge of His glory. The closer we look, the more we find Him in those minute details. None of us could stand next to Job and argue that we have uncovered God's secrets as if we stood over His shoulder in Creation or as He sustains that creation. No, instead we stand fascinated and awestruck at the intricacies of His handiwork.
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News Item11/6/19 7:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Apparently, Neil, some people don't agree with you about the accuracy of David Hume's conclusions ❗
Evolution News wrote:
...Hume did not suggest that the analogy between natural complex order to human-designed complex order is invalid, as some try to do today: he merely argued that it was not certain, and that there was a better alternative. We can now see that his alternative fails completely because of what we have discovered at the very basis of life, and in particular the origin of life (an area about which even Darwin had little to say). We have not found magic, nor a gap that might need to be explained by magic. We have found rational mechanism; just the thing that most looks like our human designs. For more information (albeit not complete information!) see just about any cell or molecular biology textbook. Therefore, if Hume were true to the method and opinions expressed through Philo, he might still choose to be a skeptical atheist, but he would have to admit that intelligent design is, at very least, the best explanation we have. Welcome to the club, Dave!
from "Intelligent Design and the Logic of Hume’s Skepticism"

https://tinyurl.com/yad7bmq8

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News Item11/6/19 5:18 PM
CJ | Indiana USA  Find all comments by CJ
If any scientist, physician, chemist, professor, etc. would simply begin their premise with, "in the beginning God," they would immediately be light-years ahead of their colleagues in their quest for truth and discovery in their fields of interest.
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News Item11/6/19 5:09 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Adriel, the climate change claims do not bother me because I am living well above sea level.

Amen bro, and I liked what Neil said also.
I wonder if you could post those two questions brother, which you have posed to evolutionists in the past, and they just looked at you - gone out, sorta.

Yes, there are probably lots, but the two I use is irreducible complexity and the reproduction process. Let me know.

If anyone wants meditations on this subject, I have two; evolution and theistic evolution.

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News Item11/6/19 4:40 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Adriel, the climate change claims do not bother me because I am living well above sea level.

Frank wrote:
Yes Neil, evolution is such a ridiculous concept that is hard for me to even argue against it today. I can sit down with an evolutionist ask him a couple simple questions and none of them have even remotely offered an answer. IOW, they just look at me.
What bothers me more than these scientists are Christians who try to appease them while supposedly professing creationism. They do this through theistic evolution or Old earth creationism. All they are doing is trying to appear to be intelligent to unbelievers.
Amen bro, and I liked what Neil said also.

I wonder if you could post those two questions brother, which you have posed to evolutionists in the past, and they just looked at you - gone out, sorta.

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News Item11/6/19 3:57 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
"We have long understood that water is integral to moderating the earth’s climate by readily transferring the heat from the sun around our planet. However, until very recently, water’s role as a greenhouse gas has been a well-kept secret in contemporary climate debates. The naturally occurring water vapor in the atmosphere has a much greater greenhouse gas effect than the CO2 from our cars and factories.

In simple terms, greenhouse gases act like a winter blanket over the earth, holding in some of the heat that would otherwise be lost. Without the presence of water in our atmosphere and its greenhouse effect, earth’s climate would likely be too cold to sustain life.

This inconvenient fact weakens the argument for immediate action on climate change."
(answersingenesis.org/environmental-science/climate-change)

"Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable. For he draws up the drops of water; they distill his mist in rain, which the skies pour down and drop on mankind abundantly. Can anyone understand the spreading of the clouds, the thunderings of his pavilion?" (Job 36:26–30)

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News Item11/6/19 12:09 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
If they realize that their latest fight against God is failing, maybe they then will realize that the bible had it right all...
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News Item11/6/19 11:54 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Neil wrote:
.. who is being foolish. The man may have a doctorate, but he evidently didn't do his philosophical homework, for Intelligent Design (AKA the Teleological Argument) was refuted by David Hume and others over two centuries ago.
This is why I lost interest in the Creationist movement, for their attempts at using empirical arguments, as Darwinists do, are not rationally defensible. I believe in fiat Creation because the Bible told me so, not Nature.
Yes Neil, evolution is such a ridiculous concept that is hard for me to even argue against it today. I can sit down with an evolutionist ask him a couple simple questions and none of them have even remotely offered an answer. IOW, they just look at me.

What bothers me more than these scientists are Christians who try to appease them while supposedly professing creationism. They do this through theistic evolution or Old earth creationism. All they are doing is trying to appear to be intelligent to unbelievers.

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News Item11/6/19 11:53 AM
Douglas Fir | Land of Pleasant Living  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
Speaking of fools, it reminds me of the Bible verse, "A fool says in his heart there is no God" and also Paul's words about "..by the foolishness of preaching..."
Think about Paul, probably the smartest person in the New Testament, still not being able to convince people like King Agrippa and the philosophers in Athens.
I think many Christians today they can fight these battles over evolution and win, when the Bible shows us that some people will not be convinced. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"
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News Item11/6/19 11:50 AM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
From Article::
""Eberlin’s thesis is that life is too complex to be an accident, that “artful solutions to major engineering, chemistry, and biology in living cells of living things … are evidence of a factor of foresight and intelligence,” as Dunn puts it.""

The Bible has been teaching this for thousands of years!!
Where were they?

The scientists are catching up gradually to the simple truth that we and everything else was created by pure genius.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

Prov 21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD."

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News Item11/6/19 9:51 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim Lincoln wrote:
An interesting individual
.. who is being foolish. The man may have a doctorate, but he evidently didn't do his philosophical homework, for Intelligent Design (AKA the Teleological Argument) was refuted by David Hume and others over two centuries ago.

This is why I lost interest in the Creationist movement, for their attempts at using empirical arguments, as Darwinists do, are not rationally defensible. I believe in fiat Creation because the Bible told me so, not Nature.

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News Item11/6/19 6:06 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
An interesting individual.

https://tinyurl.com/y42u6ysa (With Three Nobel Endorsements, Chemist Marcos Eberlin Advances Case for Intelligent Design) from which,

David Klinghoffer wrote:
....
As Dr. Ertl writes, “Regardless of whether one shares Eberlin’s approach, it is definitely becoming clear that nature is still full of secrets which are beyond our rational understanding and force us to humility.” Yes, indeed.
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