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FRONT PAGE  |  10/16/2019
Choice News MONDAY, SEP 30, 2019  |  15 comments  |  1 commentary
Intense Hong Kong clashes ahead of China's 70th anniversary
Fierce clashes broke out between protesters and riot police in Hong Kong on Sunday as thousands marched through the strife-torn city, during a day of global protests aimed at casting a shadow over communist China's upcoming 70th birthday.

Beijing is preparing for huge, tightly-choreographed festivities from Tuesday to mark the founding of the People's Republic of China, including a huge military parade that will revel in the country's emergence as a global superpower.

But ongoing unrest in Hong Kong threatens to upstage those celebrations as the semi-autonomous city boils with public anger over the erosion of its special freedoms under Beijing's rule. ...


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News Item10/5/19 2:13 PM
TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic  Find all comments by TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic
ELECT: +++I REPEAT+++: THERE'S DEFINITELY A STRONG CHRISTIAN INFLUENCE AT THE PROTESTS !

"CHRISTIANITY IN CHINA HAS...REAWAKEN[ED].

AFTER THE ZERO TOLERANCE DEBACLE OF THE COMMUNIST/CULTURAL REVOLUTION (1966-1979) WHEN CHAIRMAN MAO-ZEDUNG TRIED TO ERADICATE EVERY FORM OF RELIGION FROM [CHINA], GOVERNMENT REFORMS UNDER HIS SUCCESSOR DUNG-XIAOPING ALLOWED THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY TO DECLARE ITSELF ATHEIST WHILE...OFFICIALLY APPROVING THE LIMITED EXISTENCE OF 5 RELIGIONS--BUDDHISM, TAOISM, ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM", ISLAM AND PROTESTANTISM/BIBLICAL-LITERALISM...

THE EXPLOSION OF UNDERGROUND PROTESTANT/BIBLICAL-LITERALIST HOUSE CHURCHES, WHICH HAVE ATTRACTED ALL LAYERS OF CHINESE SOCIETY, IS WELL DOCUMENTED. IAN JOHNSON, AUTHOR OF 'THE SOULS OF CHINA: THE RETURN OF RELIGION AFTER MAO', HAS WRITTEN, 'PROTESTANTISM HAS BECOME A DYNAMIC PART OF CHINA'S LANDSCAPE, ESPECIALLY IN THE BIGGEST CITIES AND AMONG THE BEST-EDUCATED.' PEW RESEARCH CENTER HAS ESTIMATED THAT THE (PROTESTANT) CHRISTIAN CHURCH GREW FROM A MERE 700,000 IN 1949 TO A WHOPPING 68,000,000 BY 2010...

A PERDUE UNIVERSITY STUDY IN 2017 REVEALED TODAY'S GROWTH OF 100/130,000,000 CHINESE CHRISTIANS...HAS FRIGHTENED PARTY LEADERS INTO ANOTHER ROUND OF REPRESSION & PERSECUTION."

Q: WHO'S CHINA'S GREATEST EVANGELIST ?

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News Item10/4/19 5:40 PM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
It is easy to confuse Hong Kong Chinese with the Mainland Chinese, which was done in previous post about an underground Christian movement.
The 2 are very different groups, like dcomparing Cubans who have arrived recently with those who have lived in the South Florida area for the past 50 years.

Sure, there may be some "Cuban Solidarity" but the older Cubans know they will never get back the country they left in the same conditions it was in when they left it.

As a matter of fact, you could not go back to Chicago, Kansas City, Peoria, or Spring Hill and not cry about how it has changed in the past 50 years.

In addition, Hong Kong Chinese even speak Chinese differently than the Mainland Chinese (not that anyone here would notice that, but if you listen to John Derbyshire's podcasts, you would). There is even a note of 'racism' between the 2 groups, according to John's recent podcast.
I do think it is ironic that the Chinese authorities want to outlaw the use of face masks, since as we all know, 'they all look alike to me'
which makes me think the hardest job in the world is to be a police detective in China--how hard would it be to tell one guy from another?

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News Item10/4/19 2:26 PM
TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic  Find all comments by TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic
ELECT: THERE +++IS+++ A STRONG CHRISTIAN ELEMENT TO THOSE PROTESTS !

LOOK: "SINCE THE 1980s, CHRISTIANITY IN CHINA
HAS...REAWAKEN[ED].

AFTER THE ZERO TOLERANCE DEBACLE OF THE COMMUNIST/CULTURAL REVOLUTION (1966-1979) WHEN CHAIRMAN MAO-ZEDUNG TRIED TO ERADICATE EVERY FORM OF RELIGION FROM [CHINA], GOVERNMENT REFORMS UNDER HIS SUCCESSOR DUNG-XIAOPING ALLOWED THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY TO DECLARE ITSELF ATHEIST WHILE...OFFICIALLY APPROVING THE LIMITED EXISTENCE OF 5 RELIGIONS--BUDDHISM, TAOISM, ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM", ISLAM AND PROTESTANTISM/BIBLICAL-LITERALISM...

THE EXPLOSION OF UNDERGROUND PROTESTANT/BIBLICAL-LITERALIST HOUSE CHURCHES, WHICH HAVE ATTRACTED ALL LAYERS OF CHINESE SOCIETY, IS WELL DOCUMENTED. IAN JOHNSON, AUTHOR OF 'THE SOULS OF CHINA: THE RETURN OF RELIGION AFTER MAO', HAS WRITTEN, 'PROTESTANTISM HAS BECOME A DYNAMIC PART OF CHINA'S LANDSCAPE, ESPECIALLY IN THE BIGGEST CITIES AND AMONG THE BEST-EDUCATED.' PEW RESEARCH CENTER HAS ESTIMATED THAT THE (PROTESTANT) CHRISTIAN CHURCH GREW FROM A MERE 700,000 IN 1949 TO A WHOPPING 68,000,000 BY 2010...

A PERDUE UNIVERSITY STUDY IN 2017 REVEALED TODAY'S GROWTH OF 100-To-130,000,000 CHINESE CHRISTIANS...HAS FRIGHTENED PARTY LEADERS INTO ANOTHER ROUND OF REPRESSION & PERSECUTION."

HENCE: HONG-KONG PROTESTS ! ! !

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News Item10/4/19 11:05 AM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
Do you remember the news item here at SA last month about how the protesters were singing hymns? It made you think that there was a strong Christian element to the protest.
Therefore, with this news story, we can throw the other one in the trash, saying it is only a case of wishful thinking.
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News Item10/2/19 10:37 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I didn't get the URL for the article for my previous post❗

https://tinyurl.com/yxadzdlq

Want to know where it came from?

Put tinyurls into:

www.duckduckgo.com to find out

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News Item10/2/19 10:27 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Amy Russo wrote:
...
In a joint statement, Reps. Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin and Liz Cheney of Wyoming said it was “an opportunity to remember the victims, past and present, of the Chinese Communist Party.”

“Today the CCP continues to wage a campaign of aggression at home and abroad,” they said, describing the country as “a nightmarish totalitarian dystopia.”

“It is for [Chinese citizens’] future, as well as that of their fellow victims in Xinjiang, in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and beyond, that we rededicate ourselves to ensuring that the Chinese Communist Party is left on the ash heap of history,”....

excerpt from, "Trump Celebrates Anniversary Of China’s Communist Rule; GOP Lawmakers Condemn It"

Yes, Mike

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News Item10/2/19 9:23 AM
Mike | York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Since in a democracy, we are all responsible for the government. being a representative democracy, we are responsible we picked to represent us. hopefully some changes will be made in 2020
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Aren't you glad the government isn't Caesar here, Jim?
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News Item10/2/19 12:55 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
There will be a change at the 2nd Coming
Barnes Commentary wrote:
John 18
​Verse 36. My kingdom, &c. The charge on which Jesus was arraigned was that of laying claim to the office of a king. He here substantially admits that he did claim to be a king, but not in the sense in which the Jews understood it. They charged him with attempting to set up an earthly kingdom, and of exciting sedition against Caesar. In reply to this, Jesus says that his kingdom is not of this world--that is, it is not of the same nature as earthly kingdoms. It was not originated for the same purpose, or conducted on the same plan. He immediately adds a circumstance in which they differ. The kingdoms of the world are defended by arms; they maintain armies and engage in wars. If the kingdom of Jesus had been of this kind, he would have excited the multitudes that followed him to prepare for battle. He would have armed the hosts that attended him to Jerusalem. He would not have been alone and unarmed in the garden of Gethsemane. But though he was a king, yet his dominion was over the heart, subduing evil passions and corrupt desires, and bringing the soul to the love of peace and unity.... 
https://tinyurl.com/y576t94t  (Should Christians try to force the kingdom on others?)
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News Item10/2/19 12:33 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I have to agree, Jim. I cannot imagine having to live under the rule of the Progressive Oligarchy, run by Amazon, Google, and Facebook and administered by the Democratic Party. Look at the nonsense they are already engaged within!

As for the protesters in Hong Kong, they face long odds from the human standpoint. But the Lord is bigger and ultimately His will is what is done.

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News Item10/1/19 10:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Since in a democracy, we are all responsible for the government. being a representative democracy, we are responsible we picked to represent us. hopefully some changes will be made in 2020 I still think that Robert Reich gave a good warning in his opinion piece:

https://robertreich.org/post/186165252840 (America’s Real Divide Isn’t Left vs. Right. It’s Democracy vs. Oligarchy)❗👎

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News Item10/1/19 7:54 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
The Hong Kong government is certainly Caesar. In fact what some of these rioters have been doing, shows that the Hong Kong constabulary has shown more restraint than the rioters have. This is indeed unfortunate. I don't know if there are any Christians in the rioting group or not. They are not doing there case much good by being violent
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https://tinyurl.com/zwg8o3o (Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government), which I have done in the misty past Anyway, Mike, if you hadn't read it; go through at least once
Sure glad the government isn't Caesar here. Aren't you glad, Jim?
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News Item10/1/19 6:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The Hong Kong government is certainly Caesar. In fact what some of these rioters have been doing, shows that the Hong Kong constabulary has shown more restraint than the rioters have. This is indeed unfortunate. I don't know if there are any Christians in the rioting group or not. They are not doing there case much good by being violent. The Young person who got shot does seem on the mend.

I assumed there would be some people who would complain if I quoted yet again from,

https://tinyurl.com/zwg8o3o (Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government), which I have done in the misty past Anyway, Mike, if you hadn't read it; go through at least once

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News Item10/1/19 11:14 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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I hope no Christians were involved in this violent behavior, it is certainly not❗👎
https://tinyurl.com/zwg8o3o (Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government).
So Beijing is Caesar now. Interesting viewpoint.
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News Item10/1/19 8:30 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
ABC News Australia wrote:
Key points:

• 15 people have been hospitalised as a result of the clashes, one in a critical condition
• Police officers fired tear gas and used water cannons to push back protesters who threw gas bombs, bricks and other objects at authorities
• Officers have reported that some protesters also attacked police with corrosive fluid....

While officers have previously fired warning shots in the air on multiple occasions during Hong Kong's months-long anti-government protests, this is the first time a protester is known to have been shot....

excerpt from,

https://tinyurl.com/y4oto55a. (Violence flares up in Hong Kong after China's 70th anniversary military parade)

I hope no Christians were involved in this violent behavior, it is certainly not❗👎

https://tinyurl.com/zwg8o3o (Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government).

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News Item9/30/19 12:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The article is informative and an interesting read. One wonders, however, if the continuing violence well turn Hong Kong into something like the Warsaw ghetto of World War II? ❗👎

Again the people Hong Kong better keep their British passports handy.

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