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FRONT PAGE  |  11/20/2019
SATURDAY, SEP 28, 2019  |  15 comments
Tithing Over Text Is Now a Multi-Billion Dollar Industry
A crowd of 1,300 gathered last May in an auditorium in Dallas to hear megachurch pastors and ministry leaders talk about casting vision, building church community, and promoting spiritual growth.

But even with familiar names like Life.Church pastor Bobby Gruenewald and Catalyst president Tyler Reagin on stage, this wasn’t just another ministry conference.

Pushpay—a tech company that made $98.4 million last year processing mobile giving for churches—put on the event, its fifth summit.

“It not only gives us an opportunity to see our customers and talk to them,” said the company’s chief ambassador, Troy Pollock, “but it creates an environment for people to grow in their jobs, which goes beyond digital giving.” ...


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Should NT Christians tithe?
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News Item10/2/19 10:02 AM
James Thomas  Find all comments by James Thomas
I hesitated to comment but I'm going to make a mention of something I saw in Malachi concerning the tithe.

Yes, I agree that fruitless debates occur more often than sunrises here, but healthy, honest looks at the Scriptures on topics we think we already know can be beneficial.

The thing I noticed in Malachi was that the priests were the ones being spoken to in Malachi 3 concerning robbing God of His tithe. While I agree everything is His, I can only see at the beginning in Malachi what God is specifically addressing; and I don't think it is cash or monetary concerns but is the currency that matters. So what was God looking for?

where is mine honour, where is my fear?

In John 10 we hear
robbers entering in by other means as well and I believe speaks to the same "currency".

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News Item10/1/19 10:01 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Fine Doc, I am not looking for a debate, just noticed that despite numerous epistles from several authors given to the church and the book of Acts, an admonition or command to tithe wasn’t given to believers so was wondering where you found the requirement in the New Testament.

the Bible is clear in more than one spot that any ability to get wealth is from God. My thinking is that all the money I have belongs to God , 100%. Money spent to support my family, help others, or give to church is of equal significance in glorifying God and fulfilling His purpose in my life. (Thus money going to the church isn’t a more spiritual use than providing for my family —I Timothy 5:8)

There is a pattern given by our Lord of raising the standard. “Ye have heard it said…, but I say unto you…). If the Old Testament believers gave a tithe, then that can only be the starting point for New Testament believers in giving to the work of God.

Thanks for hearing me out.

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News Item10/1/19 7:51 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
UPS, the reason I haven’t responded to your question is because I see another debate coming on, and frankly I’m sick of them. If we are not expected to tithe, then I assume we’re off the hook for mercy, judgment, faith and the love of God also. Yes, the Old Testament says that the tithe is the Lord’s. However, the New Testament doesn’t say that the tithe is no longer His. The concept of robbing God in tithes and offerings may be an Old Testament concept, but I find it nowhere negated in the New Testament. I believe all Christians tithe. Some tithe at church, while others tithe at the garage, the ER and the orthodontist. I know from long experience that God blesses the finances of those who honor Him with HIS tithe. Spend God’s money if you want to. He’ll get it back somehow.
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News Item9/30/19 2:49 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Dr. Tim, would you share the N.T. admonition or command to tithe. When our Lord healed the leper He told him to go and make the appropriate sacrifices as Moses commanded and the night
before His crucifixion He and the disciples had the Passover Seder, so He clearly operated under Old Testament law. His admonition to the Pharisees about tithing would have fallen under the same.
Haven’t read Jim’s comments so not agreeing or disagreeing with anything he said
Luke 17:10, I did a study on tithing years ago and came to the conclusion that tithing is not a NT mandate. So, I agree with you and just wanted to let you know.

But, if someone desires to tithe, then so be it.

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News Item9/30/19 1:58 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Dr. Tim, would you share the N.T. admonition or command to tithe. When our Lord healed the leper He told him to go and make the appropriate sacrifices as Moses commanded and the night
before His crucifixion He and the disciples had the Passover Seder, so He clearly operated under Old Testament law. His admonition to the Pharisees about tithing would have fallen under the same.

Haven’t read Jim’s comments so not agreeing or disagreeing with anything he said

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News Item9/30/19 8:08 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
www.dgcustomerfirst.com wrote:
Dollar General Corporation is a popular American store in the USA. It has a number of a variety of stores. The first store of Dollar General was started in the year 1939.
Is Dollar General considering the tithe?
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News Item9/30/19 3:04 AM
www.dgcustomerfirst.com | Washington, DC  Find all comments by www.dgcustomerfirst.com
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News Item9/30/19 12:55 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Absolutely, Dr. Tim. Jim, you seem to subscribe to the same Jesus as Jimmy Carter. His Jesus isn't the one my Bible describes.
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News Item9/29/19 4:26 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
In the NEW Testament, Jim, Jesus said that people ought to tithe. Nice try.
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News Item9/29/19 2:46 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Karl Vaters wrote:
The Bible uses many colorful words to describe the church. It’s a family, a body, a fellowship, a holy people, a flock, and more.

But not a business.

In my previous post, I wrote about Why It's A Bad Idea To Run A Church Like A Business.

https://tinyurl.com/y29r68kt

In today’s post, I want to get more specific about why....

...using wise business principles is not the same as running a church as though it was a business....

excerpt from,

https://tinyurl.com/y52j7flx (3 Big Problems With Running A Church Like A Business)

A couple of short articles, and good ones, from Christianity Today

If pastor salary isn't out there in plain sight, I would suggest you find another church.👍

QC, tithing isn't Christian; it's Old Testament legalism. You give what you can. it could be less than 10% or it could be more than 10%. actually when I complain about rich pastors, if they're giving some of their millions, and I assume way more than 10% to Christian endeavors, I could overlook their unusual pay👎❗

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News Item9/28/19 10:23 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I do agree with you on one aspect, Jim. It's not tithing if it's not sacrificial giving.
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News Item9/28/19 7:56 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
This was an interesting article on shearing the sheep.
Yes a billpay from a bank would be the best thing to use, if you are going to do it this way.
For televangelists, this is old news.
2 Corinthians 9:7
Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Anyway, there is something about effortless, unconscious giving that doesn't seem right.
No shearing the sheep is involved if the giving is voluntary, "not grudgingly or under compulsion."
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News Item9/28/19 6:18 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
This was an interesting article on shearing the sheep.

Yes a billpay from a bank would be the best thing to use, if you are going to do it this way.

For televangelists, this is old news.

2 Corinthians 9:7
Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Anyway, there is something about effortless, unconscious giving that doesn't seem right.

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News Item9/28/19 3:40 PM
Denny laphrA  Contact via emailFind all comments by Denny laphrA
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