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FRONT PAGE  |  6/5/2020
TUESDAY, AUG 27, 2019  |  9 comments
Landmark euthanasia trial opens in the Netherlands
A landmark euthanasia trial opened in the Netherlands Monday seeking to pinpoint what to do with dementia patients who have previously stated their wish to die under certain circumstances but later might have second thoughts.

The court case centers on a 74-year-old woman who was given fatal doses of drugs three years ago despite some indications she might have changed her mind. The doctor in the case is accused of making insufficient efforts to find out whether the patient still wanted to die.

She is charged with breaching the euthanasia law and, if the judge rules the request of the patient was insufficient, that charge could in theory become murder. But the prosecution is not seeking any penal sentence against the doctor and does not question her good faith. Instead, the prosecution centers its case on setting out a better legal framework for the future. ...


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News Item8/28/19 2:07 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Excellent comment Pilgrim. Yes, our heavenly Father is not subject to mankind or time. A while back I studied a concept called, "middle knowledge" which claims that God does something, but then has to wait to see what happens before He can react.
Thanks for your comment!
I've never heard of this "middle knowledge" Frank. But I know what it sounds like; or rather, I know some people who believe the following.

God decides to save people who are all sinners. He determines to send his Son as the Redeemer of all men. Jesus comes as God incarnate to this world, lives a perfect life, dies a substitutionary death, is raised from dead and ascends into heaven. The gospel of new life in Christ, to be received as a free gift, is preached all over the world. God observes every time this gospel is preached, to note if any respond favourably to the message. If they do, his reaction is to immediately choose them unto salvation, and from that point on he calls them his elect.

Middle knowledge, eh?

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News Item8/28/19 9:50 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Actually Christopher,
1. If God wants to save more people, he will do. He is not caught out by a return of his Son to earth. He is the one planning it!
2. It sounds commendable, but the better route is one where we can say, "I delight to do thy will, O my God." The will of God for both John Baptist and his own Son was for them both to die in their 30's.
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Sister B, it is no problem for sufferers to say not only, "I am ready to die (being redeemed)" but also, "Heaven is far better than this evil world, and besides, death removes this awful remnant of the sinful nature which lurks within me."
However, while there is work to do for HIM, in the will of God, I shall remain alive according to HIS will not mine.
Excellent comment Pilgrim. Yes, our heavenly Father is not subject to mankind or time. A while back I studied a concept called, "middle knowledge" which claims that God does something, but then has to wait to see what happens before He can react.

Thanks for your comment!

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News Item8/28/19 7:43 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
Actually Christopher,
1. If God wants to save more people, he will do. He is not caught out by a return of his Son to earth. He is the one planning it!
2. It sounds commendable, but the better route is one where we can say, "I delight to do thy will, O my God." The will of God for both John Baptist and his own Son was for them both to die in their 30's.
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Sister B, it is no problem for sufferers to say not only, "I am ready to die (being redeemed)" but also, "Heaven is far better than this evil world, and besides, death removes this awful remnant of the sinful nature which lurks within me."
However, while there is work to do for HIM, in the will of God, I shall remain alive according to HIS will not mine.
1 & 2, so true.

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Yes 'ready' is the word, to do all his biding.

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News Item8/28/19 7:26 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
John UK Wrote:
"Death is sweet. I am ready."
I'm not. People often comment that their hope is for The Lord to come quickly. I'm guessing this won't go over all that well, but my hope is the He continues on in His patience, and tarries.
The way I see it is that the longer He tarries, 1) the more people are saved, and, 2) this may seem a bit selfish, but I want as much more time as possible to do all that I can possibly do, for Him, and to also grow and improve.
Actually Christopher,

1. If God wants to save more people, he will do. He is not caught out by a return of his Son to earth. He is the one planning it!

2. It sounds commendable, but the better route is one where we can say, "I delight to do thy will, O my God." The will of God for both John Baptist and his own Son was for them both to die in their 30's.
---------------

Sister B, it is no problem for sufferers to say not only, "I am ready to die (being redeemed)" but also, "Heaven is far better than this evil world, and besides, death removes this awful remnant of the sinful nature which lurks within me."

However, while there is work to do for HIM, in the will of God, I shall remain alive according to HIS will not mine.

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News Item8/28/19 7:10 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John UK Wrote:
"Death is sweet. I am ready."

I'm not. People often comment that their hope is for The Lord to come quickly. I'm guessing this won't go over all that well, but my hope is the He continues on in His patience, and tarries.

The way I see it is that the longer He tarries, 1) the more people are saved, and, 2) this may seem a bit selfish, but I want as much more time as possible to do all that I can possibly do, for Him, and to also grow and improve.

While His return is more than welcome at any moment, I, personally, hope for as much time as possible to get my own self much more prepared, to be able to do as much as I possibly can, and again, to see as many as possible, saved.

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News Item8/28/19 6:41 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
Death is sweet. I am ready
John, it is perceived what you wish to mean through this short statement, but it sounds somehow as the talk of stoic Socrates before drinking his poison cup

Certainly we count the believer's death as 'sleeping in Christ', on the grounds of the purchased redemption, by which the believer is spared in death the torment of guilt that death without redemption imputed carries.

But as a matter of fact, being the sting of sin death, death still carries its own victory through the grave; and though conquered in Christ we look forward to the time when death will be totally swallowed up (drinked down or drowned) in victory when the inmortality of the body is restored and "mortality ... (is) ... *swallowed up of life* "

"... ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting ... the *redemption of our body* "

"... *when* this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
*then* shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory"

"... thanks be to God, which gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Just a short reflection about our hope.

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News Item8/28/19 4:50 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Death is sweet. I am ready.
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News Item8/27/19 4:51 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
I know Douglas Fir it's bad...

It's killing me not knowing what the verdict is...🤔

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News Item8/27/19 2:20 PM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
I'm dying to see the outcome of this, aren't you?
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