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FRONT PAGE  |  1/23/2020
TUESDAY, AUG 6, 2019  |  18 comments
Californians forced to live in cars and RVs
San Francisco counted 1,794 people living out of their vehicles in 2019, a 45% increase from the last homeless count in 2017. Across the bay in Alameda county, home of Oakland, officials counted 2,817 individuals living out of vehicles – more than double the 1,259 they counted in 2017.

The uptick in vehicle living comes as no surprise to housing advocates, who have long warned of the consequences of an untenable housing crisis in the region. For the last 10 years, California has constructed less than half the new homes needed to keep up with population growth, creating a scarcity that has driven up rents and home prices.

In San Francisco, the median price of homes was $1.7m in 2019 and the median rent was $3,700 for a one-bedroom apartment. Amid the crisis, homelessness in general has surged. San Francisco saw a 17% rise in numbers, while Alameda county had a 43% uptick. Oakland alone ...


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Pff  Find all comments by Pff
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News Item8/7/19 10:56 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
You’re cute when you’re mad, Pff. Did you sit up all night composing that last post?
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News Item8/7/19 7:27 PM
Pff  Find all comments by Pff
All perpetuated by doctrines of the NT and its pacifistic, martyrdom mentality, selling everything you have and giving all to the poor, having everything in common, bla bla bla. Get ready for your stupid country to go bankrupt, the irony is the only reason you are not yet bankrupt is because you have the biggest military, thus the most anti pacifistic organization in the world, which has the threat of control of the world to everyone else the country owes money to. Thus they don't pay what they owe because those who are owed don't have the military power to overthrow the US and take back what is owed to them by force.
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News Item8/7/19 4:08 PM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
I've heard of retirees whose plan is to sell their homes and buy a big luxury RV that they can travel around the country in.
Just imagine: big gas bills (diesel is more expensive than gas!), finding a place to empty your toilet tanks, not knowing if the campground will have space for you when you arrive, reading weather reports like you never did before--worrying about High Wind Alerts, etc.
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News Item8/7/19 11:05 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
The Quiet Christian wrote:
A tank of gas won't get you out of Cally from SF.
SF to Carson City is about 250mi, well within the tank range of most cars.

BTW, John UK might've mentioned that Britain has a subculture called Travelers, folks who live in their "caravans" or RVs. Some cause trouble with trespassing or petty theft. And not all are Gypsies.

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News Item8/6/19 4:15 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
A tank of gas won't get you out of Cally from SF. Too far. Then you'd be stuck in the devilish wasteland that's Nevada on I-80.
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News Item8/6/19 3:22 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Both! Most of the places where they allow RV to park and stay overnight, have electricity that they pay a small amount for. Some park their RVs there permanently. Not sure about water though?
Ah, how I wish it had been like that here in the UK. I would have taken to that nomadic lifestyle decades ago. I think I caught it off Abraham.
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News Item8/6/19 2:39 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Frank, when you talk about these RV's, are they shot RV's which are just parked up and never move again? Or fully working vehicles which are driven about? And if so, where do they park up to have electric, water and so on?
Both! Most of the places where they allow RV to park and stay overnight, have electricity that they pay a small amount for. Some park their RVs there permanently. Not sure about water though?
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News Item8/6/19 1:52 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
What is an RV? A rusty Volkswagen?
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News Item8/6/19 1:11 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
*Newer RVs and oppossom BBQ is all we need to catch up with the nation...
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News Item8/6/19 1:10 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Living in a RV in California. Sounds like misery to me...

But down here in Sippy, your lucky if get an old Chevy Astro to live in...

If only they could take those old, rusted RVs and move them here, we would be living the high life...

Newer

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News Item8/6/19 12:55 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank, when you talk about these RV's, are they shot RV's which are just parked up and never move again? Or fully working vehicles which are driven about? And if so, where do they park up to have electric, water and so on?
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News Item8/6/19 11:41 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
I would love to live in an RV, but I cannot afford to, and the guv makes it impossible in the UK anyway.
Good morning brother and fellow pilgrim on the narrow road!

In Fla. where I live, living in RVs is very common. My guess is there are 10s of thousands doing it. Also, mobile homes are extremely common here. I have never seen a mobile home park in Europe and don't remember any RV parks. I wonder why?

Anyway, I do know they are well equipped and lot rent is very cheap.

Have a blessed day.

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News Item8/6/19 10:45 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
I would love to live in an RV, but I cannot afford to, and the guv makes it impossible in the UK anyway.
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News Item8/6/19 10:06 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
If they are living in cars and RVs anyway, maybe a full tank of gas could get them somewhere with less of an "untenable housing crisis." You aren't poor just because you can't afford $1.7 million for a house, or $3700 for rent. Do what smart Californians are doing. Leave.
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News Item8/6/19 9:37 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
I think it's a complex of causes including rent control, restrictive zoning, and inflationary minimum wages. I doubt those lawmakers who "struggle to find a solution" [yeah, illusory solutions beloved of leftists] would even consider relaxing such policies. Here, the public is reaping what foolish leftists have sown.

And there's the broader problem of divorce and illegitimacy, not helped by welfare rules which reward irresponsibility.

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News Item8/6/19 8:37 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Liberal policies gone amok. They are messing with the natural law of supply and demand by severely restricting the supply causing the price to sky rocket. Onerous regulations put on by Democrats (they own the state politically) are the reason for what this article addresses.

Remember this is the party that Jim from Lincoln and Pulitzer Prize winner George Will think you should put in power.

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News Item8/6/19 1:05 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
No one could afford those inbuilt houses if they were built due to the property tax structure.
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