Dolores wrote: Hi John, thanks for the encouragement and comments. I think they are both hard nut to crack. mostly hard to change their beliefs, I am actually a Christian serving God in the Baptist Church. I see your way of worship as great and I’m sure your preaching is very inspiring. The way you explained it in scripture today about God’s Love even in the womb was a reminder of how real God has always been to me even as a child . I loved going to church. I like JC Ryle as well. Have his book on Holiness. I like the older authors.
Hi Dolores, I like that definition of yourself as a Christian serving the Lord in the Baptist church. And there is no doubt in my mind that the same Lord has looked upon you with love and grace, even from the womb. This explains much, and is what separates you from worldlings. Even through the hardest times, the Lord protects and keeps us, and as if by a miracle, we maintain our faith in his Son, showing the fruit of his Spirit, and thusly showing ourselves to be truly saints of his, eternally saved.
A lot of Ryle is available on grace gems for free reading. Found here:
Sister ladybug, I agree with you about shaking off the dust here. It has denigrated into a narcissistic/ecumenical ‘chat room’. Till we meet again, keep yourself in the Love of God.
Hi John, thanks for the encouragement and comments. I think they are both hard nut to crack. mostly hard to change their beliefs, I am actually a Christian serving God in the Baptist Church. I see your way of worship as great and I’m sure your preaching is very inspiring. The way you explained it in scripture today about God’s Love even in the womb was a reminder of how real God has always been to me even as a child . I loved going to church. I like JC Ryle as well. Have his book on Holiness. I like the older authors.
Thank you for your kind response, I pray your husband will allow it, just for this instance. I would be so blessed to have private exchange with you from time to time, you have edified me greatly and I do NOT want to lose that! This forum is no place for me, it's time to shake off the dust. Please ask your husband to reconsider, just this once.
Good morning sister, So glad to hear that you are finding Mr. Bello’s writings a blessing.
As for contact via pm I would love to..but alas my dear husband has said no to giving our our e-mail to anyone outside of the family, because of bad past experiences. I have to respect his wishes, but I will speak to him concerning you. You have also been a tremendous blessing in my pilgrimage here on earth.
Is there any way to have contact with you outside this forum? I have included my email if you like to contact me that way. I desire to keep in touch with you, but not on this forum. You have been a blessing to me and I want to continue having contact with you if at all possible.
BTW, the suggested site from you is truly a great blessing. I was able to contact the owner of that site and received a most gracious reply from him. I am still reading his book on John 3:16- there is great blessing in what he wrote. Again, thank you and God bless
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Brother not commenting on the substance of your posts or on you personally, just your opening comment with a generalized response.. Wouldn't read too much into it, people tire of the debate and because, as usual nobody changes their thinking, they often see it as pointless to continue. I am sure you've been there.
Time goes by and nothing much changes, does it, US? Some still have an either/or view of sovereignty vs responsibility, instead of a proper both/and.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Brother not commenting on the substance of your posts or on you personally, just your opening comment with a generalized response.. Wouldn't read too much into it, people tire of the debate and because, as usual nobody changes their thinking, they often see it as pointless to continue. I am sure you've been there.
Hello bro, yes, yes, yes, I can see what you are saying, and you may be right. I will ponder it.
However, you may remember a certain person who made a false claim that I never brought scriptural arguments to support my thoughts on the matter, and it is for this reason I brought a lot of scriptures into the equation, showing that unless Jesus loved everybody, he is a transgressor of the law, and therefore cannot save anyone.
I suppose you would counsel me to ignore such an one who makes false claims. Or would you? After all, you claimed I made false statements about the IFB churches and you were quite in the right to seek to put me straight. I don't think you would class that as a debate, more a presenting of facts.
John UK wrote: Wonder of wonders, I had expected at least one person to have a grumble at something I said, somewhere between Part 1 and Part 7, but not a peep. That could be for a number of reasons, of course. Maybe it is because scripture is actually clear on the matter.
Brother not commenting on the substance of your posts or on you personally, just your opening comment with a generalized response..
Wouldn't read too much into it, people tire of the debate and because, as usual nobody changes their thinking, they often see it as pointless to continue. I am sure you've been there.
Dr Tim Wrote: "Epiphany, Christopher? Didn’t he design lamps, jewelry and other gewgaws?"
Gewgaws? Hillbillyspeak for doodads, doohickeys, whatchamacallits, and dem dar tings? I feel 5% dumber everytime I finish reading anything scribbled out by a mangy, backwoods mountain chipmunk whisperer.
Christopher000 wrote: Dr Tim wrote: Christopher wrote, “People here disagree with each other.†I disagree. John UK Wrote" Tim, I don't disagree with you, but I beg to differ. I don't concur with either of you nuts. We could solve this if you'd both have an epiphany, and just come to realize that I'm always right. No matter what I say on whatever topic, I'm right. Set your pride aside, and just accept it.
I don't know why you're bringing politics into this, Christopher.
But seeing as you have, can you tell me if there is any political group in America who are both Christian and Socialist, who make up their manifesto from the teachings of the New Testament?
Dolores wrote: JohnUk, I agree with you on almost all 95% of what you said, but you know how these “hard shelled Baptist are( that was a name given to them long years ago, well not that long ago) I have to get ready for Church have a blessed day.
Thanks Dolores, and you have a blessed day also. Because you have a hearkening heart, I've no doubt the good Lord will speak to you at the assembly.
Hard-shelled Baptists, eh? You mean they are a tough nut to crack? Or that they have a crocodile skin?
Anyway, as long as your light is shining bright, and not hidden under the bed; being a blessing in this world. I heard recently this nice expression: Someone cannot help everyone, but everyone can help someone. Those simple words have encouraged me a lot.
More from JC Ryle later on.
I ought to mention that Ryle has probably influenced my thinking even more than Charles Spurgeon.
Christopher the scripture that was given to me by the Holy Spirit when I was concerned about my husband and how to make him see things my way. 1Peter3:1-6 Wives likewise be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear. So when someone is belligerent and shunning and unloving in attitude, simply because I don’t believe the way they do, well they just crossed the line with me. I will say it again, I follow God and His guidance through the Holy Spirit. Again have a good day.
JohnUk, I agree with you on almost all 95% of what you said, but you know how these “hard shelled Baptist are( that was a name given to them long years ago, well not that long ago) I have to get get ready for Church have a blessed day.
Christopher, sorry about your dad. My mother had thoughts of sucide, told me a voice spoke to her and told her to go hang her self. She was a devout Christian married to an abusive, womanizing man that his women friends would call her and threatened her. It was a combat zone in my home as I grew up. When you get to that point, your brain does not think normal. It’s not that you want to die but want to get out of your pain. Thanks for sharing all that with me because it’s so close to my own testimony as well. My take on the last post have a blessed sabbath.
These verses show us, secondly, the original source from which man's salvation springs. That source is the love of God the Father. Our Lord says to Nicodemus, "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
This wonderful verse has been justly called by Luther, "The Bible in miniature." No part of it, perhaps, is so deeply important as the first five words, "God so loved the world." The love here spoken of is not that special love with which the Father regards His own elect, but that mighty pity and compassion with which He regards the whole race of mankind. Its object is not merely the little flock which He has given to Christ from all eternity, but the whole "world" of sinners, without any exception. There is a deep sense in which God loves that world. All whom He has created He regards with pity and compassion. Their sins He cannot love--but He loves their souls. "His tender mercies are over all His works." (Psalm. 145:9.) Christ is God's gracious gift to the whole world.
...by the way, Dolores, I'm glad that you received the things I said in a positive way. My main goal was to get you to take a look around, and see that disagreements abound on a daily basis, and are hardly restricted to you, personally. The other point I was making is that we ALL battle, or have battled, prior indoctrination on some level, and have become hardwired to believe certain things/ways. We just need to make certain that scripture is always our final truth, no matter how hard our minds try to fight for those things that we learned at first, or those things that we simply prefer to believe by way of personal preference, etc.
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mostly hard to change their beliefs, I am actually a Christian serving God in the Baptist Church. I see your way of worship as great and I’m sure your preaching is very inspiring. The way you explained it in scripture today about God’s Love even in the womb was a reminder of how real God has always been to me even as a child . I loved going to church. I like JC Ryle as well. Have his book on Holiness. I like the older authors.
