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FRONT PAGE  |  8/15/2020
WEDNESDAY, MAR 13, 2019  |  18 comments
Hipsters mostly look alike. There’s math to prove it
You can spot a nonconformist a mile away. Because they all look alike. Just ask mathematician Jonathan Touboul, an associate professor at Brandeis University.

Like the rest of us, Touboul has noticed that people who strive to look different usually end up looking the same. He’s even given it a name: “the hipster effect.” But Touboul has gone one step further, by coming up with a mathematical explanation for why it happens.

Touboul’s dense, bewildering paper on the hipster effect has made him a celebrity in the abstruse world of higher math. And the premise of his work was ironically confirmed when it was written up on MIT Technology Review, a website run by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ...


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News Item3/18/19 10:01 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Good morning sc,

No one here is saying the Grahams aren't ecumenical, this has already been made known a while back. The issue is the continual copy and paste, over 40 comments by June alone on one thread. It's overkill. This is the third thread she's posted at speaking out against the Grahams. Merely providing a link will suffice, then we can choose whether or not we want to read more on the issue.
Who here doesn't already know about the Grahams, with the exception of J.UK? Yes, let us speak out against ecumenism. But, not to the point where we beat it to death.

BTW, I am not the only one here who thinks this overkill is a bit much -https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=51411. There were times when I would speak out against the Grahams, and I went too far. It becomes an annoyance when we don't know when to stop - been there, done that.

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News Item3/18/19 9:54 AM
sc  Find all comments by sc
Thank you, June, for your zeal, steadfastness and links.
Sadly, the Grahams are still carrying much negative influence.
I have heard Billy being quoted twice now within a month's period of time at a local baptist church.
Ladybug, there is often a carry over between the threads.
June did make mention of CCM at Franklin Graham's shows.
Since there is a link between CCM and that which is "hip" within the church, mention of Frankie's crusades are fair game.
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News Item3/15/19 3:19 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
June,

Others here are growing weary of your cross posting. You are hijacking threads that have nothing to do with the Grahams in an attempt to make the thread about them.

We ALL know about the Grahams, this was discussed greatly with your friend. Much evidence was given, so what you are stating is 'old news'.
Pointing out how you are breaking SA commenting rules isn't 'suppressing'. The topic of the Grahams has been discussed at great length, as someone has already mentioned.

If a story about the Grahams comes up, then you can share what most of us already know.

P.S. there's a booklet written by Rev. Ian Brown about BG available through Ralph Ovadal's ministry that you may be interested in - you will have to contact R.O. via e-mail to get a copy.

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News Item3/15/19 2:51 PM
June A. Nadolny | Holland, Ohio  Find all comments by June A. Nadolny
Suppressing the voice of dissent is the hallmark of papists.

Recommended Reading: Foxe's Book of Martyrs

Psalm 119:126
"It is time for thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void thy law."

Standing with the Reformers of old against the Antichrist's church and those who continue to advance it.

"Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 10:32

June & Ralph Nadolny

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News Item3/15/19 2:29 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
I wonder how much longer SA will allow June to hijack threads in her attempt to make it all about BG/FG/SBC. Her cross-posting is against the SA rules - reporting her may be the only solution to putting an end to this annoyance.
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News Item3/15/19 2:13 PM
June A. Nadolny | Holland, Ohio  Find all comments by June A. Nadolny
This is what passes for “Christian music” at Franklin Graham's “evangelistic crusades”.

https://billygraham.org/gallery/graham-tour-60-years-later-crowds-once-again-overflow-in-melbourne/

Franklin Graham continues to lead poor deluded souls into bondage with Rome.

Online Article: Franklin Graham: Like Father, Like Son / Website: Soul Refuge
Link: https://parousia.org/archives/9865

FRANKLIN GRAHAM is continuing in his father’s footsteps. He told the Indianapolis Star that HIS FATHER’S ECUMENICAL ALLIANCE WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH and all other denominations
“WAS ONE OF THE SMARTEST THINGS HIS FATHER EVER DID” (“Keeping it simple, safe keeps Graham on high,” The Indianapolis Star, Thurs., June 3, 1999, p. H2). 
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As a Christian bought with the precious blood of Jesus Christ, I can do no less but PROTEST against this God-insulting, Christ-dishonouring movement by the enemies of the cross to overturn the great work of the Reformers, who in the Providence of God,
were used to recover the glorious gospel of our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ, and that which the Roman Catholic harlot concealed from the masses for centuries.
I am a former Roman Catholic converted to Christ by God's grace.
I stand with the Reformers of old against the Antichrist's church.

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News Item3/15/19 12:50 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
""Like the rest of us, Touboul has noticed that people who strive to look different usually end up looking the same.""

Yes! It really is true. Teenagers do actually grow up, they don't remain weird, alien and monsters.
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As for song singing in churches.
Sinners prefer entertainment.
True Christians seek to worship and praise God.

God wrote the Bible.
So Psalms Only!!

Quote:
"One of the objections raised by critics of biblical inspiration is that the Bible is not the word of God, but that it contains the word of God. Is this accurate? No. First of all, this doesn't fit what the Bible says about itself. The collection of 66 books that the Christian Church recognized as being inspired speaks as the very words of God in many places.

"Thus says the Lord" occurs over 400 times in the Old Testament.
"God said" occurs 42 times in the Old Testament and four times in the New Testament.
"God spoke" occurs 9 times in the Old Testament and 3 times in the New Testament.
"The Spirit of the Lord spoke" through people in 2 Sam. 23:2; 1 Kings 22:24; 2 Chron. 20:14."

"Let's consider that Jesus said the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms (all of the Old Testament) were Scripture, and that the Scriptures cannot be broken--cannot fail (John 10:35)." (carm.org)

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News Item3/15/19 12:18 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
Whoops. Well, I think that it’s important to define what contemporary is and work from there. If we define contemporary as “new” then there is a great amount of new Christian songs that are the real deal.

Of course, there are Christians out there that are so closed minded (and no, I’m not saying anyone here is closed minded) that they can’t even consider that praising the Lord with a Guitar is holy (I happen to enjoy the guitar, ukulele, and banjo) or to write a new song is good.

@Dr. Tim, I might check that out.

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News Item3/15/19 12:07 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
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News Item3/14/19 9:34 AM
sc  Find all comments by sc
Jesus is the focal point of ministry.
Performers are the focal point of CCM.
There is a vast difference between the hymns and today's "Christian" music.
I would venture to say that most CCM "artists" wouldn't do what they do if not for the accolades which they receive.
I cringe every time I tune into a Christian radio station only to hear a whiny man singing like a woman or a woman cooing out a song as she was singing to her latest flame.
I doubt if Fanny Crosby or the other hymn writers would have taken center stage, dressed in hip apparel and skinny jeans to sing.
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News Item3/14/19 7:18 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
QC, if you like modern hymns I think you will like Abigail Miller. She is the real deal—no “show business”, but just a deep and genuine love for God.
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News Item3/14/19 4:49 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I used to like CCM but once a man starts reading Spurgeon, he needs more meat. Hymns definitely that are rich in truth, theology, and doctrine are a joy. But they too were the CCM of their day. Having married a musician, she is always looking for something new and fresh. We have been blessed to find modern hymnwriters with the same depth as the old hymnwriters.

But where I was stationed back when I first came to saving faith, the NPR station used to play bluegrass on the radio during drive time. And the station closed each hour with some version of what they considered sacred, religious, or a hymn. Then they had a bluegrass gospel show every Sunday morning. I still harken back to that genre, not because it was particularly deep necessarily, but when people go thru hard times, they have experienced the Lord in a real way...and it showed.

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News Item3/14/19 12:51 AM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
I gave up on CCM years ago. I began listening to hymns on distant radio stations, the only cd’s I purchase are reproductions of hymn albums from the early 50’s or 60’s. I listen to Southern gospel quartets from the 1940’s. My pastor isn’t a modern topical preacher rather he’s more of an expositor of a text, taking a book at a time. Our church still has a choir, and that in itself is a blessing.
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News Item3/14/19 12:12 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Wayfarer pilgrim wrote:
A hipster looks like a seeker friendly skinny church pastor looking for boomers to pay for the air conditioning in his mega rock arena, Er, I mean church.
I wish you weren't right, Brother. We've had the misfortune to have stepped into a couple of these churches over the last six months while traveling. Everything anyone says about the contemporary approach to worship being a failure to engage the congregation in anything but entertainment was proven in our eyes, particularly corporate singing of which there was practically none. The sermons needed help, and in one case was horrendous which really did the whole service in. But corporate singing had been killed.
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News Item3/13/19 10:50 PM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
A hipster looks like a seeker friendly skinny church pastor looking for boomers to pay for the air conditioning in his mega rock arena, Er, I mean church.
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News Item3/13/19 4:11 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Is a hipster a short dumpster?
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News Item3/13/19 3:56 PM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
Dressing uniformly to promote individualitsm and differentiality.
You don’t need a white paper, just a newspaper. The cartoon Calvin and Hobbes covered this about 20 years ago.
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News Item3/13/19 10:41 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Nothing new: in the '60s, Baby Boomers repudiated the hated "conformism" of their parents by dressing and talking alike, only more disheveled.

To be sure though, I can't back this up with a fancy white paper.

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