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SATURDAY, MAR 9, 2019  |  13 comments
Dutch professor: “No Western country has managed to successfully integrate Muslims”
Ruud Koopmans claims than no Western country has managed to successfully integrate Muslims.

“Muslims are much worse at integration than other groups of migrants, and there is no doubt that in most other groups of migrants, we see great progress from one generation to the next. Although it’s not completely absent in Muslims, the change is much slower,” he told Danish newspaper Berlingske recently.

Around 65 percent of the Turkish and Moroccan Muslims in six European countries consider religious rules to be more important than the secular law of the country in which they live. ...


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News Item3/9/19 8:53 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Some helpful information in dealing with specific terminology, issues one might hear a Muslim talk about. If one is engaging with a Muslim in a conversation or reading up on the Muslim faith. Helpful information to let one see what they mean by their own terminology.

It’s diffidently helpful in witnessing purposes for sure amen.

https://www.answering-islam.org/Index/

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News Item3/9/19 8:27 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Jim; If you get Jesus wrong it doesn’t matter how great of a neighbor one makes! & ISA know as Jesus of the Muslim faith is another Jesus who they have stripped Him down of being God in the Flesh. His ressurection didn’t take place, He didn’t die on the Cross, that He is just a great Prophet only.

Any Born Again Christian who loves Christ, willn’t be ashamed to declare Him as Immanuel, God with US!

Allah can’t take one sin away, Mohammed can’t & willn’t ever be a mediator between fallen mankind & the Father ever!

Only King Jesus can satisfy Justice perfectly, as their is no other means by which one can be reconciled by ever amen!

Jhn 3:36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; & he who doesn’t believe the Son shalln’t see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

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News Item3/9/19 4:08 PM
Ladybug  Find all comments by Ladybug
It isn't surprising that Jim L. would be here promoting a devilish religion as 'peaceful'.

Like every dead religion, the Muslim/Islamic faith believe in 'free will' - https://ing.org/top-100-frequently-asked-questions-about-muslims-and-their-faith/

'The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so" (9:3). from https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-call-to-the-muslims-of-the-world/
BTW, the Quran is the bible of the Muslims

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News Item3/9/19 3:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Silas wrote:
....
There are millions of Muslims worldwide who are great people. They are caring, loving, and giving. They are excellent citizens and great neighbors. I personally know far too many good and decent Muslims to characterize them in a malevolent fashion. Conversely, I know there are millions of Muslims worldwide who support terrorism and oppression to advance the Kingdom of Allah, Muhammad’s kingdom, as the world’s rule and authority. These people continue to spill Muslim and non-Muslim blood throughout the world. In some Muslim countries the majority oppose Islamic terrorism, in other Muslim countries the majority supports some type of force or violence because its aim is to further Islam’s domination....
excerpt from, " Islam Hates You"

https://tinyurl.com/yd7q5hf8

Obviously, many individual Muslims don't.

The above article gives a history of Muhammad's interactions with other religions--it doesn't paint a pretty picture.

This is why extreme vetting of people from Muslim countries is called for.

https://tinyurl.com/zx2flt2 (Smoking Out Islamists via Extreme Vetting)

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News Item3/9/19 2:39 PM
Stevenr | Missouri  Find all comments by Stevenr
I used to teach Sociology at a local college, and when the topic turned to the integration of Muslims, one thing I always liked to show was an old video I had gotten from a missionary friend of mine. It was taken in Mexico of a Catholic woman who was crawling across a cobblestone courtyard on her knees in order to kiss the feet of a statue.
She left trails of blood as she crawled... Obviously in pain, but with the mindset that kissing that statue was of more importance than personal comfort.
Most Catholics in America go to church on Saturday night so they won’t have to get up early on Sunday morning
The correlation is this: NEVER judge an international religion by the American counterpart. Americans are lazy and focused on comfort, and don’t take God seriously…
And as an aside, I would even place most believers in that category as well… Not just Muslims and Catholics.
Just saying.
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News Item3/9/19 12:27 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Me wrote:
Minor correction;
”Me from Here writes:
Nor will any non Muslim country “ever” integrate them!
Why? There system as taught by Koran and hadifs is contrary, and only allows for there domination... not integration.”
Yes, true Islam whether it is Sunni or Shiite believe that they must either convert everyone, or those not converted must pay an infidel tax or they are put to death. Those who do not support that concept are simply Islamic by birth. That is what their Koran teaches regardless of how they want to spin it.

And your point about their duty to lie if it propagates their faith was right on.

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News Item3/9/19 11:38 AM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
This prof has spoken the truth. Islam is not just a religious with a 'holy book' that one of the US Congress used to swear in on. It is a Total Way of Life. There is no separation between church and state because in the Perfect Islamic Country of Saudi Arabia, the religion rules all their lives. Check your news: only recently did they change the law to allow women to drive cars.

There is a chart that shows various countries with various levels of Muslims, and once the level exceeds something like 20 to 50 percent, you start getting lots of problems from them.

Let's take an example: Ramadan-when they don't eat during the day. So they will 'pig out' before sunrise and after sunset.

What happens to you when you eat to the max? Think after-Thanksgiving Dinner--how did you feel? Sleepy, right? Well, there goes your company's productivity when you have 50 percent Muslims, and the other workers will be upset that they have to pick up the slack.

Another tactic that Muslims are allowed to use is 'taqqiyya' which means lying, deceiving, if it is to advance the cause of Islam. So when their percentage is low in a country, they will use this tactic to say they are not there to take over and make everyone submit to their moon-God.
And they will use this tactic for any other poll

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News Item3/9/19 7:48 AM
Marty mcd | Usa  Find all comments by Marty mcd
All religious apostates assimilate well, including MINOs, Muslims in Name Only.
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News Item3/9/19 7:37 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Well, I'd venture to say that polling Muslim-American's who have been Americanized since birth, is hardly an accurate perspective. Let's do a Gallop poll abroad, in Muslim dominated countrys, to get a true picture of the religious tolerance index of true Islam/Muslims.

Polls are not always blind, and stats, hardly reliable in the pictures they paint. Many American-Muslims, being Americanized, are about as Muslim as any other non-practicing people who align with a religion; claiming to be this or that, but non-practicing/observing the faith itself. Take a drive over to East Dearborn, MI, to see how assimilated they all are when they are able to gather together in large groups.

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News Item3/9/19 6:45 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Jim, you have referred us to that same stupid article at least a dozen times, and probably closer to two dozen. Nobody, and I do mean nobody, would write an article entitled “Don’t judge the Christians you know by Christianity, and don’t judge Christianity by the Christians you know.” We fully expect our religion to be judged by our attitudes and our actions, and vice versa. Muslims, on the other hand—the darlings of Satan and liberals—are, as always, to be given a free pass. Son, you don’t even look at things from a logical standpoint, let alone a Christian worldview. If Islam is so wonderful, stop pretending to be a Christian and convert to Islam.
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News Item3/9/19 5:32 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Gallup Poll wrote:
....
Gallup finds Muslim Americans, however, are among the most integrated religious groups in the U.S. Gallup Religious Tolerance Index, which measures people's attitudes toward religious faiths different from their own and ranks survey respondents by three categories: Isolated, Tolerant, and Integrated people (see sidebar for definitions).

Among U.S. religious groups, 44% of Muslim Americans are integrated, on par with Mormons (46%) and greater than Jewish Americans (36%), Protestants (35%), and Catholics (34%).

When examining religious tolerance globally, the U.S. and Canada and sub-Saharan Africa rate as the most integrated regions Gallup studied....

excerpt from, "Islamophobia: Understanding Anti-Muslim Sentiment in the West"

https://tinyurl.com/yb444l8v

https://tinyurl.com/hl9j5qz ("Don't judge the Muslims that you know by Islam and don't judge Islam by the Muslims that you know.")

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News Item3/9/19 2:16 AM
Me | Here  Find all comments by Me
Minor correction;

”Me from Here writes:
Nor will any non Muslim country “ever” integrate them!

Why? There system as taught by Koran and hadifs is contrary, and only allows for there domination... not integration.”

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News Item3/9/19 2:13 AM
Me | Here  Find all comments by Me
Nor will any non Muslim country “ever” integrate them!

Why? There system as taught by Koran and hadifs is contrary, and only allows for there integration... but only there domination!

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