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FRONT PAGE  |  8/7/2020
THURSDAY, NOV 22, 2018  |  10 comments
The Pilgrim Code of 1636: English Charter, Christian Covenant, and Modern Constitution
Whether it’s the Mayflower Compact or any of the scores of other town charters written in the first couple of decades after that seminal document was signed, each of them shared certain common clauses — covenant clauses.

According to Lutz, these covenant-inspired charters, codes, and constitutions counted on the following five “foundation elements”: first, God is called on as a witness; second, the need for the agreement is expressed; third, a covenant people is identified or created; fourth, a church is established; and fifth, the covenanting community’s goals are declared.

Such deliberations of divine provenance and purpose obviously have no place in 21st-century public schools that claim to be “educating” the descendants of these pious pioneers, and that should be unacceptable to those of us who claim to admire our ancestors and to serve the same Savior.

In addition to covenants, our ...


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Youth in Asia | Asia  Find all comments by Youth in Asia
Happy thanksgiving to all!
Psalm 100 is a wonderful psalm for this day.
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News Item11/22/18 5:18 PM
Plain Old Tim | Possum Hollow, USA  Find all comments by Plain Old Tim
Well said, Pilgrim. The problem with people like Jim is described in Titus 1:15–Unto the pure, all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Since Jim can find no goodness in himself, he can recognize no good in others.
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News Item11/22/18 5:17 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Amen, Wayfarer! We are the recipients of a rich heritage of writing & thinking.

Jim, I commend to you an honest history & not one filled with your favorite political agenda.

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News Item11/22/18 4:37 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
What is lost is the view that Christian community can and is available to all. Are you a member of a church, does your pastor preach and teach. Do you teach your children godly principles? Do you know Christ and him crucified and raised to life again ? If you can answer yes, to any description or question, then you are a member of Christ’s community. In a nutshell, that is what the Puritans sought, despite their own sins, as ours, they sought to live for Christ.
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News Item11/22/18 3:25 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why thank you, Quiet Christian ❗👍 Since we were in a gift exchanging mood, here is mine.
BDM wrote:
....If it were shown that the Puritans who settled America did not establish truly Christian cultural principles that were in some important ways perpetuated, then a strong suspicion might be raised that the entire case for a now-lost Christian America rests on rather nebulous foundations. (See: The Search for Christian America, p. 28.)....

....

The Puritans viewed themselves as God's special people, replacing national Israel. Nowhere do the dangers of this assumption become more clear than in the Puritans' treatment of the native Americans. Since the Puritans considered themselves God's chosen people, they concluded that they had the right to take the land from the heathen Indians. The American Indians were the "new Canaanites" in America's "Promised Land." The fruit of Puritan theology was brutal. They saw their mission as convert these "Canaanites" to Christianity; failing that, it was acceptable to slaughter them in the name of Christ.

excerpt from:

https://tinyurl.com/zkhcxlf (The Puritans' "Christian" Agenda?)

Well, at least they turned into something better, Unitarians and Church of Christ members

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News Item11/22/18 1:13 PM
sc  Find all comments by sc
christmas came from the Roman Catholics.
If they didn't "christianize" an existing pagan celebration, Christians wouldn't be celebrating it today. That's pretty basic.
I give you the benefit of the doubt as to your naivete regarding it but Scripture does not allow for esteeming a Roman Catholic "holy day" any day.
We certainly wouldn't make up a so-called holy day and borrow terms like "coven" or use swatiskas and attach the name Jesus or Christ to them even if we meant well in so doing.
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News Item11/22/18 12:26 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I think, SC, that the issue of Advent is one steeped in tradition which goes back to the Early Church before the RC went off the deep end more than 1,000 years ago. History shows that the holiday is not exactly a RC invention, but one can see the truth in that claim. At the same time, Christmas points to Easter and our celebration of Passover in which our Lamb has been slain for us, once and for all per Hebrews. What many will find troubling is that Jesus is not just that moral teacher or good Jewish boy but very God of very God. Unfortunately and most troubling, they may well find that out too late. So the celebration that points out Jesus is a means of preaching to those who have not heard or will not hear. And it may well be a piece of evidence presented against them on that Day.

Enjoy your day of Thanksgiving, Brother! And if you choose not to esteem this day above another, the Lord has granted that freedom per other posts today.

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News Item11/22/18 9:55 AM
sc  Find all comments by sc
Ironically,if we had followed after the pilgrims, we wouldn't be celebrating the Roman Catholic's "christ"mas. Their eucharist is at the crux of it and they did coin the word.
More importantly, if we had followed after the disciples, we wouldn't be either.
Let's give it back to the RCs.
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News Item11/22/18 9:46 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Happy Thanksgiving, Jim!

I sure don't know what your plans are for the day, but instead of waiting for Christmas, I wanted to give you a gift a little ahead of time as the Holiday Season gets kicked off today. It wasn't at all expensive, free in fact, but it is incredibly more valuable and reliable than the guy you quoted below:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24950

It's a copy of William Bradford's history of Plymoth Planation.

The Bible tells us to return to the ancient paths and to seek after wisdom. I think you will find both hidden away in that original source. Enjoy and Happy Thanksgiving!

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News Item11/22/18 2:02 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Albert James Dagar wrote:
...It is apparent that the Western European influences that shaped America were part of what had become known as "Christendom." But a culture based on the idea of "Christendom" does not of itself constitute a culture based on Scripture or an inviolable covenant with God. The history of Christendom is an ugly history fraught with tyranny and the enslavement of those who are less "enlightened." If God gave the knowledge and means to subdue the earth and take dominion in the name of Jesus Christ, then that privilege has been terribly abused. If, on the other hand, Satan gave that knowledge and means, his purposes have certainly been accomplished. The fruit of Western Civilization, in spite of its enlightened accomplishments, demonstrates that no attempt to institute the Kingdom of God on earth before Jesus returns can succeed. So the idea of a covenant between America and God is pure fantasy....
excerpt from, "America a "Christian" Nation?"

https://tinyurl.com/hkojvpl

It is nonsense to talk about Covenants in any American public school of either the 19th, 20th, or 21st century.

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