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FRONT PAGE  |  3/4/2021
THURSDAY, OCT 4, 2018  |  34 comments
US National Council of Churches calls for Kavanaugh to step aside
In its intervention, the NCC, which represents around 100,000 congregations and 45 million churchgoers, says Kavanaugh has 'disqualified himself from this lifetime appointment and must step aside immediately'.

The statement also said Kavanaugh's testimony before the Judicial Committee 'included several misstatements and some outright falsehoods'. It also criticised his record on 'issues of voting rights, racial and gender justice, health care, the rights of people with disabilities, and environmental protections', saying 'This leads us to believe that he cannot be an impartial justice in cases that are sure to come before him at the Court.'

The mainstream NCC is at odds with evangelicals, who largely back Kavanaugh. Pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Trump's most loyal supporters, said on Fox & Friends on September 30: 'They realize now, conservative Christians, that the left is willing to ...


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News Item10/6/18 7:48 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
My statement on whether the demoncrats want republicans dead may only represent the truth. The colleges and seminaries of pre war Germany preached the same hate that only the Nazis could dream of. Karl Marx, ex seminarian, Joseph Stalin - ex semnarian, Adolf Hitler, artist and male prostitute.
If you were intellectually honest Jim, you would close the argument, people screaming death to the gop senators are wishing someone would do just that.
May God protect all our elected officials and all our judges, that we may be able to live among those who wish no ill.
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News Item10/6/18 11:44 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
No bad idea in DC is ever truly dead. It waits until the past arguments that defeated it are warehoused then it comes back again. Liberalism, socialism, and other forms of Marxism are like that. Now that academia has ensured that the lessons of the previous 100 years are forgotten, now is the time to move forward again.
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News Item10/6/18 11:35 AM
Plain Old Tim | Possum Hollow, USA  Find all comments by Plain Old Tim
Douglas MacArthur said that old soldiers never die; they simply fade away. Well, apparently old liberals never die, either. They just smell that way.
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News Item10/6/18 11:31 AM
Don Tian | Donchian Channels  Find all comments by Don Tian
this item makes you want to look up your own denomination to see if it is a member of the NCC. i doubt many here will find that true, since it mostly contains the 'old-line' denominations.
it also shows you that 'birds of a feather flock together' in that they are liberals, so they espouse whatever liberal position they pick off of the mainstream media, and they may have a similar case of "TDS" (Trump Derangement Syndrome).
The confrontation last week on the elevator with Senator Flake had me suspicious from the start, and now they are finding the women involved are part of a Democrat organization, partly funded by George Soros.
All this talk of misbehavior is just a delaying political move. If not, why did Senator Feinstein keep the letter in her desk since July? (She may have even showed it to other Dems on the Judicial Committee just to plot a strategy, and allow others to get in on the action.)
It stinks of dirty politics. Dems do not care about women; don't you remember the "Move On' campaign that started after all the female accusers against President Clinton appeared? Even one of the Dem strategist on TV said, 'see what you get when you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park?'
No one complained of his sexism then!
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News Item10/6/18 11:15 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Jim, you can rage with the nations all you want, but the Lord holds your unbiblical positions and slander of His people in derision (Psalm 2).

While no one can state that an Christian has reached a state of perfection in this life, I am insulted by your characterization of Christians from European ancestry. No Christian I know upholds those ideals you touted. And I know many from many different continents who are dear brothers and sisters in Christ.

No one I know supported or supports the current president because he is an example of morality. Most supported him for either his economic policies (just saw that unemployment is at record lows, by the way, for all that means) as well as the anti-Hillary choice.

Christians need to be appalled at sin, both in themselves as well as what is espoused by others. Your socialist vision of a remade America in some other image will do nothing but promote further sin while suppressing the Gospel and the free expression of Christianity while remaking our economy so there is no incentive to do well. Wayfarer was a bit dramatic but unfortunately truthful in his description of what your friends want for us. We're the eggs that you have to crack, Mr. Worrest, in order for you to make your omelet.

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News Item10/6/18 9:59 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
excerpt from, "Shields and Brooks on Kavanaugh confirmation showdown"
[ http://tinyurl.com/ydgjuf4q ]
Let us see when we get partisan party line votes

Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Confirmed 96-3
Stephen Breyer confirmed 87-9
Sonia Sotomayor confirmed 68-31
Elena Kagan. Confirmed 63-37

Looks like Kavanaugh will fall along party lines 51-49

Looks like David Brooks needs to be lamenting liberal Democrats, and just for clarification we are NOT a democracy.

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News Item10/6/18 6:56 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Considering the stance of 80% of the white evangelicals in United States, most of can't criticize either National Council of churches or the World Council churches, since they have taken the morrow lowground.

Matthew 7:4-5
Or how will you tell your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye;’ and behold, the beam is in your own eye? You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.

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News Item10/6/18 6:51 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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News Item10/6/18 3:58 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dolores wrote:
From the very beginning of the World Council of Churches, I believed they would be the false Church that supports the Anti Christ during the Great Tribulation. I read what they stand for even now and am more convinced than ever that I may very well be right.
Dolores, I believe you are right about that. There is a subtle but powerful ecumenism going on, now that the devil has changed tack. He first tried to get all churches onboard by organising the HQ at the top and inviting churches to join up. But having an insufficiency doing it that way, he totally flipped it, and organised local church cooperation, so that people thought it was merely a local thing, just a few local churches joining together now and again, nothing sinister (apparently). All they had to do was agree to the doctrine of The Trinity, and they could sign up. But what they didn't realise was that the local group was joined to a larger group, the larger group to another group even larger, and if you keep going up, it turns out that at the top is the WCC.

That is how it is in England, which I discovered at the turn of the century, thanks to Cecil Andrews of "Take Heed Ministries".

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News Item10/6/18 12:35 AM
Uncle Sam | North Central Texas  Find all comments by Uncle Sam
NCC can not vote, sounds like communistic jabber to me!
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News Item10/5/18 11:25 PM
Dolores | Tx  Find all comments by Dolores
From the very beginning of the World Council of Churches, I believed they would be the false Church that supports the Anti Christ during the Great Tribulation. I read what they stand for even now and am more convinced than ever that I may very well be right.
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News Item10/5/18 11:13 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Wayfarer pilgrim, something of an extreme statement.
David Brooks wrote:
I would say this was most — one of the most unpleasant and undignified and depressing spectacles I have seen covering in my career. And I say that because we had essentially a mystery here, a very complicated case of two different stories that were thrown before us.

It was very hard to tell how to sort them out. How much importance do you give to high school behavior? It was just a mystery that required investigation and honest conversation.

And what I saw in the Senate among commentariat and in the country at large is that everybody returned to their tribal corners. If you support Democrats, you believe Ford. If you believe Republicans, you believe Kavanaugh. And you just returned your tribal corner.

excerpt from, "Shields and Brooks on Kavanaugh confirmation showdown"

[ http://tinyurl.com/ydgjuf4q ]

Continued...

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News Item10/5/18 11:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nevraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
David Brooks wrote:
And, to me, the core problem is that the Supreme Court, which used to be held up above politics as a series of wise men and women who could interpret the Constitution, now, on the key issues, falls on party-line votes. It's just another tribal institution in American life.

And when the Supreme Court falls on party-line votes, then the Senate confirmation process falls on party-line votes and the American public falls on party-line votes. And so reason and investigation and intellectual humility and conversation, any attempt to persuade, that seemed to play no role in this process. It was about base mobilization and the mobilization of power.

And so, to me, it's a depressing commentary on democracy, really.

excerpt from, "Shields and Brooks on Kavanaugh confirmation showdown"
[ http://tinyurl.com/ydgjuf4q ]
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News Item10/5/18 9:16 PM
Jim Worrest | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Worrest
Christopher Brittain wrote:
... it also implies that the challenges confronting both liberal and conservative churches in Europe and the United States may be more alike than is often assumed. Douthat's article opens up a crack of acknowledgement in this direction, when he notes that the most successful churches in the United States are "theologically shallow, preaching a gospel of health and wealth rather than the full New Testament message." Similarly, Stanley Hauerwas - no friend of liberal Christianity - has accused conservative American Protestants of being unable to distinguish between their faith in God and loyalty to their country. Intriguingly, his criticism of conservative evangelicals sounds remarkably similar to Douthat's accusation against liberal Christianity: "the churches to which they go do little to challenge the secular presumptions that form their lives."...
excerpt from,
https://tinyurl.com/c9454aj (Plague on both their houses: The real story of growth and decline in liberal and conservative churches)

Unfortunately, some of the modern evangelicals have a greater loyalty to Trump than to the country as far as I can see.

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News Item10/5/18 6:36 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
Kavanaugh has the votes to be confirmed. For all the hollaring, threatening to kill his wife and children. And for all Jeff Flake’s nineth hour snuggles with the demoncrats, 7 FBI criminal background checks should remind everyone, the demoncrats want death for conservatives, death for republicans and death for their families. Don’t vote for demoncrats if their opinion is to wish death on you because you’re not tolerant of them wanting to kill you.
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News Item10/5/18 5:55 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
This Guy wrote:
...
And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Matthew 25:8‭-‬9 KJV
Hey, have you worked out yet what this oil is, who sells it, and how much it costs? Thank you.
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News Item10/5/18 5:52 PM
Chris G P | England  Find all comments by Chris G P
Jim, here in Britain we do have Universal Health Care. It is called the NHS, and is actually the biggest supplier of abortions.

We do have “Planned Parenthood” type clinics, like Marie Stopes, Brooks and National Family Planning Association, but these are usually used for the sudden and emergency type abortions. Most of the others are done on the NHS.

Even the school nurses who hand out birth control advice and medication, and refer girls for abortion with total confidentiality are employed by the NHS.

The pharmacist who takes a prescription for the two-stage abortion pill, after a brief consultation with the women is reimbursed by the NHS.

This is our Universal Health Care. It hardly can be said to prevent or even reduce abortion!!

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News Item10/5/18 4:06 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
Jim Lincoln wrote:
...Trump...
Except that this vote isn't about Trump. It's about the merit of Kavanaugh.

And what if the senate rejects Kavanaugh? The next nominee will be a Trump nominee as well. From the Dem's perspective, how is that any better? This is nothing more than political posturing by the left to their base. (That's you, Jim)

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News Item10/5/18 4:04 PM
My Own 2 cents  Find all comments by My Own 2 cents
I wonder if Moderator Alpha isn't watching the threads anymore...
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News Item10/5/18 2:28 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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