Pope Francis likened abortion to Nazi eugenics practiced “with white gloves,” and said the only real families are those based on marriage between a man and a woman, using uncharacteristically blunt language on two controversial moral issues.
Addressing an Italian family association on Saturday, the pope equated the contemporary termination of pregnancies in response to fetal maladies or defects discovered through prenatal testing to the policies of Hitler’s Germany.
“Children should be welcomed the way they come, the way God sends them to us, the way God allows, even if sometimes they are ill. I’ve heard that it’s fashionable—or at least habitual—to perform certain exams in the early months of pregnancy, to see if the baby is unwell or comes with a certain problem,” the pope said. “And to have an easy life, one does away with an innocent,” he added....
Dr. Tim wrote: Jaycobee, instead of worrying about councils and such, you should be concerned with escaping eternal damnation in the lake of fire. No council can save you from that, and neither can the pope, a priest, or any church, whether Roman Catholic or not. You'd better wake up and smell the brimstone while you still have a very slim chance. "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him?"(Hebrews 2:3)
Dr Tim, it is good to see you telling a dead man to wake up and sniff the brimstone.
Mark 10:26-27 KJV (26)Â And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? (27)Â And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
Ephesians 2:5 KJV (5)Â Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved).
It kind of reminds me of when the prophet was told by the Lord to prophesy over a whole valley of dry, dead bones. They lay there, inactive, until the Spirit of the Lord blew upon them while he prophesied, and brought them to life.
Jaycobee, instead of worrying about councils and such, you should be concerned with escaping eternal damnation in the lake of fire. No council can save you from that, and neither can the pope, a priest, or any church, whether Roman Catholic or not. You'd better wake up and smell the brimstone while you still have a very slim chance. "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him?"(Hebrews 2:3)
Jacobee, this will be my final, food for thought, comment:
You don't know me, so I'll tell you... I'm a realist, and base everything I believe on bona Fide, vetted, well researched fact. Nothing I believe has anything to do with prior indoctrination, or simply wanting to believe a certain way or thing. I'm very well studied in all areas of Roman Catholocism. I've studied the various councils, every word of their catecisms, church history, papal history and succession, read the major Catholic historians, every Papal dogma, the various traditions and how they came to be, read any Bishops who helped to shape church beliefs, am well studied in the Marian doctrines, and practices, as well as having read the words of any apparition recognized by the church. I've also studied every church doctrine, listened to many, many apologist debates, and have done my own research on official church websites to learn how they answer to such scriptural conflict, whether it be doctrinal or traditional. I can tell you, after having done all with an open mind, that until the day The Lord decides to take this wretch home, I will be unwavering in my stand against the Roman system of religion, and I have God's clear Word to thank for my definitive answers and closing my mind to this
I commend you Chris for your long suffering with this individual... That said, the devil always attacks the authority of Scripture; the same tactic used by the papists, satan's minions.
Hey Jacobee, I'm familiar with all but would need to refresh myself, but wasn't aware of the Hippo and Carthage councils on it. These are topics much to large for the space allowed here. The Deuterocananical references you're speaking of, if I remember right, aren't many, but few, and even then, they're single verses of out of context scripture. They refer to them as the Deuterocanon, but we just view those books as a part of the Apophrica as well. We're getting into different territory here altogether, and that is planting seeds of doubt as to whether or not God has allowed protestants, born again Christians, to be duped with an incomplete Word. I have to wonder if you have been searching Catholic writings, and websites, exclusively, for your answers. I'm going to have to end the discussion here.
Christopher let's start with God's word. How do we know what God's word is? How did we get the list of books that make up the Bible? I never knew how many times the deuterocacon is referenced not only in our scriptures but by the wary Christians. That being said, if it is referenced so much, why should it be excluded? Second, I haven't done this research yet but maybe you have: the councils of hippo and Carthage cited deuterocacon oval books as scripture. If they did, do you know if individuals there Practiced RCC beliefs?
Thanks MS, and I know I said it once before, but this was about it for me, unless Jacobee has any valid questions. I know first-hand how convincing Priests, Catholic apologists, and places like Catholic answers.com, Roman Catholic historians, and the like can be. God's Word couldn't be more clear on their doctrines, their traditions, and their fate. His Word is crystal clear to anyone who will truly listen, and is searching honestly for truth.
Woe to those who bypass God's clear instruction and place their trust in mere men; self appointed representatives of Christ on Earth, and their system of religion that we are very sternly warned of.
Been following this little charade for the last few weeks. This individual is a loyal RC adherent come on this forum to push its satanic agenda. He's not interested in Truth, just dead idolatrous man-centered religion.
No, were talking about very clear facts, and stern warnings from God Almighty about the city which sits on the seven hills; a city doomed for eternal destruction, as well as anyone who goes their way. All will be without excuse on that day because all have God's Word to separate the lies of man and Satan, from what's good, and true, and holy, and right, and righteous, and pure.
...omni-presence, and omniscience, powers reserved for God alone. They give Priest stipends, who hold masses for the dead as indulgences to get them out of Purgatory sooner. They teach confession to mere men, who in turn, absolve/forgive them of their sins. They pray to Mary for her intercession, forgiveness, and salvation. They pray to, and bury, etc., dead saints in the ground to sell homes, and for luck, etc., which is the same for novenas, etc. They teach that mere men, Popes, are infallible when speaking from their seat of office which is basically anything they say. They teach that Priests are given a special power by God to pull Christ from Heaven and put him into the wafer, and to also transubstantiate the bread and wine. They teach that some of their traditions actually Trump God's Word. They teach that anyone not under the umbrella of the one true church is anathema, cursed to Hell for eternity.
I could go on and on, but is God's true church really the polar opposite of what He teaches us, and is God's true church infected with pedophiles all the way to the top, not to mention all of the past pedophile, adulterous, murderous, theiving, sociopath, sodomite, illegitimate, etc., Popes of days gone by? Hmmm.
Jacobee Wrote" "...but I recognize that all of us have biases."
This has been bothering me. You're right, Jacobee, but don't mistake bias for opinion on this matter. You won't find anyone offering up any opinions concerning Rome...none, and that's because no opinions are necessary, when scripture makes the facts crystal clear.
The church says that anyone who believes in faith alone and that works aren't necessary for salvation, is ananthema. They teach that without Mary, salvation is impossible, and they weren't talking about giving birth to The Christ. They teach Mary intercedes, co-mediatrix, alongside Christ, and that He can't resist her pleas. They teach she's co-mediatrix, she co-redeemed mankind because she wept at the foot of the cross. They teach that the Mass is a literal and continual re-sacrifice of Christ because His sacrifice on the cross wasnt sufficient to cover a future sin. They teach a fictitious Purgatory that gives hope to all, because every Catholic gets to Heaven eventually, no matter what. They still sell indulgences, yet today, to get those still alive and dead good time off their time in Purgatory. They or pray to dead "saints", asking them for things that only God has the power to provide, not to mention, attributing to them
Kev wrote: Hey James hope you have been well as well. I didn’t have much of a summer as I’m now taking Spanish 3 for summer and by far Spanish is the hardest subject for me. I just saw Jacobees comment and can’t understand how someone could want to be associated with such a church that has such disgusting macabre buildings, not to even mention the false doctrines of the RCC. Maybe Jacoobee needs to hear the gospel as I can’t imagine someone who has the Spirit of God in them who is suppose to lead them into understanding wanting to join the RCC. Here is a video of the pope out of his own mouth denying the need of faith in Christ: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dP6cBMSEg6c This guy will be Jacoobees leader if he decides to join the RCC
?Como esta El Kevino? My summer had been bueno. Trabajo muy mucho. Gracias for asking. I can understand your frustration. Conversational Spanish was hard for me as well. I can still say "of course" 4 different ways in Spanish but I am by no means bilingual.
Prayerfully Jacobee will receive answers to his questions by hearing from the word of God. As the psalmist said.... Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
James Thomas wrote: Hey Kev, Good to see you posting and hope your summer has been going well.
Hey James hope you have been well as well. I didn’t have much of a summer as I’m now taking Spanish 3 for summer and by far Spanish is the hardest subject for me. I just saw Jacobees comment and can’t understand how someone could want to be associated with such a church that has such disgusting macabre buildings, not to even mention the false doctrines of the RCC. Maybe Jacoobee needs to hear the gospel as I can’t imagine someone who has the Spirit of God in them who is suppose to lead them into understanding wanting to join the RCC.
Here is a video of the pope out of his own mouth denying the need of faith in Christ:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dP6cBMSEg6c
This guy will be Jacoobees leader if he decides to join the RCC
Jacobee Wrote" "I see Gods word supports RCC claims. What do you mean when you say it doesn't?"
Hey Jacobee...??? Jacobee, I have to ask what you've been studying, specifically. Most, if not all of Roman Catholic doctrines, Papal dogmas, rituals, and traditions, are diametrically opposed to God's Word. These are not gray areas that are open to interpretation, Jacobee, but crystal clear doctrines of devil's.
When I get a chance, I'll list some, but I've been talking about these from the very beginning, so I feel like I'll just be repeating myself again. I'm really concerned about you, Jacobee, and this has nothing, whatsoever, to do with personal bias, but what God Himself has to say. Do you believe that scripture is God breathed, inerrant, and complete? Sola scriptura?
Just visit Mexico for the “day of the dead” where Catholics paints skulls and set up shrines for the dead. Study the origins of their holiday and why it just so happens to fall right after Halloween.
The RCC also promotes doctrines of devils 1 Timothy 4
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall **depart from the faith**, giving heed to seducing spirits, and **doctrines of devils;**
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 **Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats,**which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
The above covers lent and the RCC Priesthood on marriage.
Christopher , it is ok. I'm not offended and understand your point. I think you may be correct to a degree that I am finding reasons to support Rome, but I recognize that all of us have biases. Is it unreasonable to say that after a lot of study, thus far I find the evidence compelling and will stick to the best explanation despite some anomalies that may pop up? I think all of us reason that way. I am still trilling to be open to reason regarding my Protestant Christian background. I see Gods word supports RCC claims. What do you mean when you say it doesn't? I think the rat lines were an abuse by Nazis who used legitimate aid routes for displaced innocent persons as a means to escape prosecution.
Dr. Alan Cairns | 8/3/2009
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