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SATURDAY, JUL 2, 2016  |  42 comments
Beer and Tattoo Bible Conference?

Apologia Church of Arizona is raising money for a church plant in Hawaii in an unconventional way. Charisma News reports the church is hosting a Bible conference that includes beer flights and an option to get a tattoo.

Church leader Marcus Pittman said in a video explaining the event, “This is actually a fundraiser for our Apologia Kauai church plant, so people of the church are donating to have another member of the church tattoo them so they can go to Kauai and we can plant a church there. So, it's pretty cool."

The website for the conference adds, “This ticket allows you to get a beer flight from Boulders on Broadway. All the proceeds from this benefit our Kauai church plant! Boulders is all about the food, craft beer, bike riding, rock climbing and adventure! With 30 draft handles and 70-plus bottles of craft beer. Bring a friend and check out our selection." ...


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News Item7/4/16 11:29 AM
Angela Wittman | Southern IL, United States  Contact via emailFind all comments by Angela Wittman
Speaking of Luther, here's something you might want to read: Drunks and Pigs (Luther) posted at the Reformed Reader.[URL=https://reformedreader.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/drunks-and-pigs-luther/]]]https://reformedreader.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/dr..[/URL]
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News Item7/3/16 4:01 PM
Same Olde Folderal | Isles of Langerhans  Find all comments by Same Olde Folderal
The Lutherans should be the sponsors of this conference, since Martin Luther himself was very fond of the beer his wife made. When he was separated from her, his urgent request was that someone send him some of her beer.
It is interesting to follow the history of Prohibition in this country; the level of drinking did decrease during it and never went up to the levels that it was before.
Today, the US consumption of alcohol is much lower than many European countries, and Belarusia leads the way. US is at 9.2 liters of pure alcohol per person per year; that's something like a 12-pack of beer per week.
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News Item7/3/16 7:32 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Well SteveR, just to set the record straight, for quite a period of time you referred to JohnUK, U.S. and myself as the "unholy trinity" I would call that pretty wicked.
You have also pretty much condemned everyone on this board with not being saved because no one except you accepts JohnYs testimony.
Kindness has not been your modus operandi, but to be perfectly honest, this makes your position clear to all who read your posts and my guess is few are confused by your ecumenicalism. You also one time stated that I worshiped a demon. That was the only time I have ever asked SA to delete a post.
Well stated Frank.

This impostor has certainly been systematically anathematising virtually everyone on here, which makes him an excellent Roman Catholic still living in the days of the Inquisition. Thankfully, his anathemas, and those of the RCC, are null and void, coming as they do from an unregenerate source, and don't bother me none.

"He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life". This centres everything in Christ. Praise him and again!

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News Item7/2/16 11:46 PM
Lady_Virtue | OKC  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lady_Virtue
Frank wrote:
...tattoos are unbiblical. The only thing that has amazed me is how many women are getting them now. Feminism includes the thought that if women want to be liberated, they will act more like men and this disfigurement is a good example of that.
Sad, but true. Feminism has certainly goaded women into acting like the basest sort of men. I've heard that once upon a time only the rougher characters on the fringes of society got tattoos. I hate to see women deface their God-given bodies in this way. It's disobedient to God (Leviticus 19:28). No godly man should be inclined toward a woman who carries herself in a masculine manner.

Thanks for your (as usual) insightful comment, and God bless.

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News Item7/2/16 9:53 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
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News Item7/2/16 9:33 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SteveR wrote:
Remember when you declared 'war' on me? Remember I wouldn't respond in the same wicked manner you expressed yourself with?
I never accepted the cry to arms. I pitied you perhaps, but didn't abuse you.
I just call it like it is
Well SteveR, just to set the record straight, for quite a period of time you referred to JohnUK, U.S. and myself as the "unholy trinity" I would call that pretty wicked.

You have also pretty much condemned everyone on this board with not being saved because no one except you accepts JohnYs testimony.

Kindness has not been your modus operandi, but to be perfectly honest, this makes your position clear to all who read your posts and my guess is few are confused by your ecumenicalism. You also one time stated that I worshiped a demon. That was the only time I have ever asked SA to delete a post.

Oh and of course tattoos are unbiblical. The only thing that has amazed me is how many women are getting them now. Feminism includes the thought that if women want to be liberated, they will act more like men and this disfigurement is a good example of that. What do you think of this thought Steve?

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News Item7/2/16 8:10 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
John UK wrote:
Are you saying that dozens on here are glorified by YOUR abuse? Nay lad. Best get down to some serious Bible Study and ask the Lord to have mercy on you and help you to understand what you read. That is not abuse, BTW, it is helpful advice given to you freely out of concern for your soul.
And if you want to help John Yurich, advise him to depart the RCC and get back to the Protestant church through which he made a profession of faith. He owes the Catholic church nothing, zilch, nada.
Remember when you declared 'war' on me? Remember I wouldn't respond in the same wicked manner you expressed yourself with?

I never accepted the cry to arms. I pitied you perhaps, but didn't abuse you.

I just call it like it is

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News Item7/2/16 6:59 PM
Dave | oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Jim Lincoln, well spotted, your completely right brother.
God bless you mate.
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News Item7/2/16 6:51 PM
Dave | oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Peanut,
Haven't you ran out of your monthly allowance of phone credit yet, you frustrated old man.
Oh sorry, to Steve
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News Item7/2/16 6:38 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
Don't fret over him, John Y has a better adoption process. He is in, glorified because of your abuse. You should rather worry about the wicked that try to glitz up reprobation in their twilight with a few hymns
Are you saying that dozens on here are glorified by YOUR abuse? Nay lad. Best get down to some serious Bible Study and ask the Lord to have mercy on you and help you to understand what you read. That is not abuse, BTW, it is helpful advice given to you freely out of concern for your soul.

And if you want to help John Yurich, advise him to depart the RCC and get back to the Protestant church through which he made a profession of faith. He owes the Catholic church nothing, zilch, nada.

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News Item7/2/16 6:08 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
John UK wrote:
Thankfully, I've never looked to "get there" Steve. The new birth is by the will of God, and I praise him that he adopted me into his family in 1979 and has regarded me as a son ever since. And all this by grace, sovereign grace.
And yes, I rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory, having believed in Christ.
You know, it's quite easy for a saint to determine who is a Christian, who is a struggling Christian, and who needs to hear the words of Jesus:
Ye Must Be Born Again.
And all except John Yurich agree with me that....
Ye (SteveR) must be born again.
Don't fret over him, John Y has a better adoption process. He is in, glorified because of your abuse. You should rather worry about the wicked that try to glitz up reprobation in their twilight with a few hymns
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News Item7/2/16 5:04 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
Oh that's right! Saints are few and far between in Wales. Let me know if you ever get there
Ye must be born again
Thankfully, I've never looked to "get there" Steve. The new birth is by the will of God, and I praise him that he adopted me into his family in 1979 and has regarded me as a son ever since. And all this by grace, sovereign grace.

And yes, I rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory, having believed in Christ.

You know, it's quite easy for a saint to determine who is a Christian, who is a struggling Christian, and who needs to hear the words of Jesus:

Ye Must Be Born Again.

And all except John Yurich agree with me that....

Ye (SteveR) must be born again.

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News Item7/2/16 4:43 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
John UK wrote:
Alas Steve, the saints (believers) in Wales are few and far between. While the revival produced great numbers requiring great churches to accommodate the converts, the revival petered out, and even the one God used to bring it forth went into almost reclusion.
But amazingly, the songs of the revival became inbred into the Welsh heart, and you will hear great hymns of the faith sung at sporting events, with hardly anyone knowing what the hymn is all about. Welsh choirs will sing those hymns with great meaning and passion without ever understanding the words. Most of the churches are apostate or Christian in name only, going through the motions and paying lipservice to the Bible.
Very few know what Jesus meant when he said:
"Ye MUST BE BORN AGAIN".
Oh that's right! Saints are few and far between in Wales. Let me know if you ever get there

Ye must be born again

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News Item7/2/16 3:55 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
I'm afraid this tattooing business is getting out of control even among Christians.
There is an older well respected elder in a reformed Baptist assembly who has talked openly on the radio concerning his "tatt" that he recently marked himself with.
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News Item7/2/16 3:41 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
Thank you,Christopher for being transparent and sharing your experience.
Yes,I have known of many Christians who would hang with the lost ones at their beer parties trying to do the same only to wind up being more influenced by them and to lose their testimony.
I'm so glad that you got away from that and saw the hypocrisy.
Lost people who are partying are seldom interested in hearing truth. It's really a killjoy for them. There are better places and times to be a witness to those who are lost. Beer parties and bars aren't real conducive to it.
Christians who try to be relevant in that way are,at the least,a stumbling block.
The "youth" pastor with the tattoos might only be effective if he could use them as a "don't do this" example.
I would venture to say that in a few years he will regret them when his skin starts aging. They won't be so "cool looking" then. I can understand why a parent would keep their children away from a Christian who is proud of their tattoos. That is encouraging.
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News Item7/2/16 3:27 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Christopher,
Did you not read my rather lengthy post to you on the James Dobson thread?
I think we are discussing two seperate issues here, and I did respond to your earlier post concerning blurred lines.
Thanks.
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News Item7/2/16 3:19 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
MS Wrote:
The family member that I spoke of in my earlier post who is quite liberal in his thinking, after meeting with the youth minister covered in tattoos said he would never allow his teens to go there as that would be all of the incentive they needed to start inking themselves...sad.

I used to be very liberal as well, and thought all was well. I did all I did, but would vehemently defend God at the same time, get very angry when anyone would use His name wrong, even say anyrhibg against Christianity, etc. I was at a house party one time, everyone was drinking and carrying on, and this one guy I didn't like was taking to some people when I heard him say, "those born again idiots" in response to a girl talking about this person who kept trying to witness to her and she just wanted them to get lost. It took all I had in me not to knock him out. Now I look back and think about what a hipocrite I was living as I was, admonishing others as I was, and like I said, thinking all was good on my end. I would even be drunk at bars talking about God. Pathetic.
Many are deceived, and this why I was talking about the alter calls.

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News Item7/2/16 2:51 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
My own denomination is hip deep in this "intensional" garbage. I just heard a quote that roughly said, " ..., whatever you do, don't miss your war". Fighting the good fight of faith should be enough.
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News Item7/2/16 2:42 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
Even in the 'moderate' case argument....After the victory by Wales over Belgium yesterday, there cant be too many saints left among the Cymry countrymen
Alas Steve, the saints (believers) in Wales are few and far between. While the revival produced great numbers requiring great churches to accommodate the converts, the revival petered out, and even the one God used to bring it forth went into almost reclusion.

But amazingly, the songs of the revival became inbred into the Welsh heart, and you will hear great hymns of the faith sung at sporting events, with hardly anyone knowing what the hymn is all about. Welsh choirs will sing those hymns with great meaning and passion without ever understanding the words. Most of the churches are apostate or Christian in name only, going through the motions and paying lipservice to the Bible.

Very few know what Jesus meant when he said:
"Ye MUST BE BORN AGAIN".

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News Item7/2/16 2:40 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Christopher000 wrote:
Thanks for the info, MS. I only read about an extra paragraph into the article, Maybe they went on to say as much. Nope, not good stuff.
SC, for me, you're right. I remember when I first tried beer and then the harder stuff, I always had to force it down thinking, people drink this stuff? Even today there's no alcohol I remotely like the taste of, but I guess many do.
The family member that I spoke of in my earlier post who is quite liberal in his thinking, after meeting with the youth minister covered in tattoos said he would never allow his teens to go there as that would be all of the incentive they needed to start inking themselves...sad.
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