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FRONT PAGE  |  12/9/2019
THURSDAY, DEC 10, 2015  |  46 comments
Atheists Call for 'Bible-Free' Hotel Rooms, Want Darwin's 'On the Origin of Species' Instead

The Freedom from Religion Foundation, America's largest association of atheists and agnostics, began a campaign Monday to rid all hotel rooms of Bibles distributed by The Gideons International and replaced with copies of Charles Darwin's "On the Origin of Species."

The Gideons International is well known worldwide for their work with hotels but according to their website, they predominantly share Scriptures in schools and colleges, prisons and jails, hospitals, and medical offices. The group is also an association of Christian business and professional men and their wives dedicated to telling people about Jesus through sharing personally and by providing Bibles and New Testaments.

In a release Monday, however, the FFRF charged that Gideons International was "exploiting hotels and motels to proselytize a captive audience," and informed the American Hotel and Motel Association that they wanted the ...


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News Item12/12/15 7:47 PM
TotallyModernChildren | 21st street  Find all comments by TotallyModernChildren
TMC wrote:
read with no difficulty
YUP
kids could read it Easier than Origin!

taught Sunday school at the 3rd to 5th grade level. Our classes are supplied for last 20 yrs with class Bibles that are Authorised Bibles- kids read these easily.

A Charlie Brown Christmas played last night with extensive quotes from 1611 Bible. Linus needs no interpreter.

"Fury" , 2014 tank battle movie ends with Shia LaBoeff's character "Bible" quoting a long portion from Isaiah chapter 6 with his commander going on to quote 1 John 2:13-18 from memorized KJV.

Saving Private Ryan the American sharp shooter quotes Ps22 "Be thou not far from me, O Lord".The sniper prays as he takes aim at a German gun emplacement--during the final battle he quotes from Ps144 "Blessed be the Lord my strength which
teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight"

Shawshank" ANDY: Watch ye therefore, for ye know not when the master of the house cometh.
NORTON: Luke. Chapter 13, verse 35.
But I prefer: "I am the light of the world. He that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."
ANDY: John. Chapter 8, verse 12.

King James is quoted a lot in modern comics:
2001 May Fantastic 4's leader reads Mtt 6:13- KJV!

Etc etc

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News Item12/12/15 6:19 PM
TMC | Midwest  Find all comments by TMC
Mr. Lincoln,
I've quietly watched from the sidelines as you bring up the translation issue over and over and over again. You've continually called the version that I've read with no difficulty since 3rd grade an archaic worthless boat anchor. I have no problem if you prefer other versions, but would you please stop making sweeping assertions about the KJV? I can understand it (and actually enjoy it) better than the modern versions and I'm sure others on here do as well. If you begin reading it as a child, there's little difficulty. Children are used to being exposed to new, unknown words all the time. That's why the best time to learn a foreign language is in childhood. My parents where more than willing to explain any questions in addition to teaching me how to use Strong's Concordance if I wanted to know more. The net result has been an improved vocabulary and appreciation of scripture. Why would I do any less for my children?
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News Item12/12/15 10:15 AM
Legacy Seed | Organic Farm  Find all comments by Legacy Seed
[URL=http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/originofspecies.pdf]]]Origin of Species Ray Comfort Into edition[/URL]
Kirk Cameron distributed this annotated Origins

Kirk got a lot of opposition as an open Evangeligal Christian

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20307814,00.html

"But never has he ruffled so many feathers, especially among academics, as he has this week, slamming evolutionary theory as untrue, inherently un-Christian and the driving force behind some of the most horrendous catastrophes of the 20th century, including Adolf Hitler's plan to destroy "inferior races."

"You can see where [Hitler] clearly takes Darwin's ideas to some of their logical conclusions and compares certain races of people to lower evolutionary life forms," Cameron says. "If you take Darwin's theory and extend it to its logical end, it can be used to justify all number of very horrendous things."

Cameron, who lives outside of Los Angeles with his wife of 20 years, Chelsea Noble, and their six children, realizes that he is making himself a target by being so outspoken, but is willing to do so for a cause that he believes so strongly in.

"I am proud to bring this to people's attention," he says.


Bible notes from Evidence Bible:KJV Comfort edition(pg54)

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News Item12/12/15 9:22 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
[URL=http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/959901/posts]]]When the Bible Becomes an Idol: Problems with the KJV-Only Doctrine[/URL]

[Section Titles]
1. The KJV originally contained the Apocrypha....
2. Even excluding the Apocrypha, the KJV of 1611 differed slightly from editions of the KJV in common use today....
3. The translators of the KJV did not believe in the KJV-Only doctrine....
4. The KJV Bible itself does not teach the KJV-Only Doctrine....
5. The KJV-Only doctrine contradicts the evidence of the KJV Bible itself....
6. The KJV-Only doctrine is not the historic belief of the Christian faith....
7. The KJV-Only doctrine does not fit the facts about the transmission of the Bible....
8. One need not adhere to the KJV-only doctrine to respect the KJV as God's word....
9. One need not adhere to the KJV-only doctrine to express criticisms of other translations....
10. Advocacy of the KJV-only doctrine is no guarantee of doctrinal truth or interpretive accuracy....
11. The KJV-only doctrine requires that we have some sort of faith in the KJV translators....
12. Advocates of the KJV-only doctrine all too commonly exhibit a spiteful and disrespectful attitude toward other Christians....

You gentlemen need to read the above article!

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News Item12/12/15 5:42 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
instead of troubling the church
Or perhaps, muddling the waters by fixed intend to no other purpose than annoyance or discord
Time is a valuable resource not to be wasted in aimless, blind, stubborn haggling to not benefit.

Out of conscience, and when acting in good faith, constant wrangling is a practice out of place.

Obsessive behavioral patterns are part of psychotic disorders, or paid agendas.

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News Item12/12/15 5:10 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Jim needs to do what this father did:

Mark 9:24 KJV
(24) And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

Or what this tax collector did:

Luke 18:13 KJV
(13) And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

instead of troubling the church:

Galatians 1:6-7 KJV
(6) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
(7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

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News Item12/12/15 4:58 AM
Moses | Los Angeles California  Find all comments by Moses
Jim Lincoln wrote:
So, Moses, which version of the KJV that is in understandable English would you support?
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Matthew 24:35 (KJV)

Which part of the above KJV verse is understandable English to you Jim...
is this too archaic to you modern bible believers?

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News Item12/12/15 12:38 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
So, Moses, which version of the KJV that is in understandable English would you support? [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_King_James_Version]]]American King James Version[/URL] or [URL=http://www.kj21.com/]]]The 21st Century King James Version of the Holy Bible (KJ21®)[/URL] since Elizabethan gobbledygook is sensibly rejected by Americans?
Doug Kutilek wrote:
I affirm that anything--ANYTHING--which unnecessarily puts an obstacle between the present-day Bible reader and a better understanding of the Word of God is wrong and evil. To enslave English readers to a single translation which is often archaic and obscure, occasionally wholly unintelligible and sometimes plainly inaccurate when other versions that remedy these defects are easily accessible is a monument to mere human tradition and is, as it were, to spit in the face of the very purpose of Bible translation, and to deny to the mere English reader the fuller knowledge of God and His revelation he could have if, IF such obstacles were removed by use of a revised translation which conforms to current English usage, and the infallible standard of the original text
excerpt from [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translatio
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News Item12/11/15 11:23 PM
Moses | Los Angeles California  Find all comments by Moses
Modern Bible Onlyism, atheism, and Darwinism are tirelessly working hard to remove the KJV the Word of God completely from the face of the earth but they’ll be very very sad and will be truly disappointed because it won’t happen in their lifetime neither throughout eternity.

Hear the Royal declaration of God 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Matthew 24:35 (KJV) AMEN!

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News Item12/11/15 5:24 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Dorcas wrote:
quite beneficial
Yes, the focus conveys encouragement for this day of weak settings church-wise
God bless
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News Item12/11/15 4:42 PM
Dorcas  Find all comments by Dorcas
B. McCausland wrote:
Sister Dorcas, perhaps you will enjoy the insights of this sermon today

Features of Spiritual Life In Difficult Times
by John Greer
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=815106880
Have a blessed day
Thank-you for the recommendation, Sister B...was quite beneficial.
Have a blessed and restful evening.
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News Item12/11/15 3:23 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I have to say reading about the [URL=http://www.gideons.org/?HP=USA&sc_lang=en]]]The Gideons International[/URL] impress me. I might have even downloaded their Bible App from Google Play, except they wanted too many permissions! But, [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideons_International]]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideons_International[/URL] have been doing good work through the years -- in fact over a hundred-- John U.K., I notice they have a British office So, they could be a good group to help out. If that where the Spirit leads.

Oh,

Todd Strandberg wrote:
The Snail Pace Conspiracy

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins" (Colossians 1:14 KJV).

"In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins" (Colossians 1:14 NIV).

There is a very simple explanation why the scholars who produced the NIV did not include the words "through his blood." When the passage was translated into English, the words did not come from the early Greek manuscripts. The phrase was most likely borrowed from Ephesians 1:7, which happens to be a parallel passage to Colossians 1:14.

excerpt from, [URL=http://www.raptureready.com/rr-kjvo.html]]]King James Onlyism[/URL]
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News Item12/11/15 1:30 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Dorcas wrote:
a hearty AMEN!
Sister Dorcas, perhaps you will enjoy the insights of this sermon today

Features of Spiritual Life In Difficult Times
by John Greer
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=815106880

Have a blessed day

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News Item12/10/15 9:39 PM
Legacy Seed | Organic Farm  Find all comments by Legacy Seed
Blood study Got me moving on in Acts to 20:28 and the
Blood of God, or the Blood of His Own: Our Unique Savior
I remember a missions trip study of this vs with a friend using a Gideon's Bible(AV)- we grabbed the Hotel version to use since he had a different version.

Acts 20:28
" Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood."
....

The one blood of an Adamic race- all related-
contrasts with the unique Blood of the second Adam who bought the Church with His blood.

The Origin of The Church(Acts)better read then racist Darwin's "favored races" myth.

Pastor Don Fortner had good sermon notes on the blood of God

http://www.donfortner.com/sermon_notes/58_hebrews/heb%2010v05%20A%20Body%20Hast%20Thou%20Prepared%20Me%202200.htm

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, having assumed our nature, is forever one of us. He is really, and truly, and forever “the Man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). Jesus Christ our God is a real man.

Christ died as a man; but because he is God, his blood is of infinite merit (Acts 20:28).

Thus one blood of ch 17 contrasts with God's blood of ch 20

In Him we are one new nation thru His blood-

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News Item12/10/15 8:58 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Dorcas wrote:
B. wrote:
Beautiful to bask in the beauty of praise, after so much aridness
---
Indeed dear sister, a hearty AMEN!
Lovely to have fellowship in the bond of the Spirit.
It makes such a difference.

"above all these things put on charity,
which is the bond of perfectness"
Col 3:14
"
"Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit
in the bond of peace" Eph 4:3

God bless

___

English Rose
Thanks for bringing to us joyful tidings

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News Item12/10/15 8:47 PM
Dorcas  Find all comments by Dorcas
B. wrote:

Beautiful to bask in the beauty of praise, after so much aridness
---
Indeed dear sister, a hearty AMEN!

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News Item12/10/15 8:41 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Rodney K. wrote:
For the Lord takes pleasure in his people:
he will beautify the meek with salvation.
Psalms 149
Beautiful to bask in the beauty of praise, after so such much aridness ... gone by ...
Verses 6-9 underline the concept that
The defence of judgement is the saints' honour.
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News Item12/10/15 8:18 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
1. Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.
2. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.
3. Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.
4. For the Lord taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.
5. Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
6. Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;
7. To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
8. To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
9. To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the Lord.

Psalms 149

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News Item12/10/15 8:09 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Dorcas wrote:
Praise the Lord Rose for covenant mercy
"let the righteous be glad;
let them rejoice before God"
Ps 68

"let thy salvation, O God, set me up on high.
… The humble shall see this, and be glad"
Ps 69

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News Item12/10/15 8:04 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
NeedHim wrote:
Praises to the Lord that He saves us & justifies us, despite of us. That one can pick up a Bible & read it & get soundly saved. Or if one doesn't have a Bible directly in their hand, that faith comes by hearing the word of God amen.
Amen! Praise the LORD!!!!

2 Timothy 3:15. And that from a child thou hast known the HOLY SCRIPTURES, which ARE ABLE TO MAKE THEE WISE UNTO SALVATION through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

English Rose:

Glory hallelujah! Praise be to God who has raised you to life in him by His precious, lifegiving, infallible Word.

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