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FRONT PAGE  |  4/14/2021
Choice News SATURDAY, JUL 4, 2015  |  19 comments  |  3 commentaries
Oregon Christian Bakers Ordered to Stop Speaking About 'Obeying God, Not Man'

The Oregon Christian bakery owners who refused to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding on the grounds that it would violate their religious convictions have been ordered to pay $135,000 in emotional damages, and have also been prohibited from speaking about standing up for their Christian beliefs.

"Respondents' claim they are not denying service because of complainants' sexual orientation but rather because they do not wish to participate in their same-sex wedding ceremony. The forum has already found there to be no distinction between the two," Avakian wrote in his order. "Further, to allow respondents, a for-profit business, to deny any services to people because of their protected class, would be tantamount to allowing legal separation of people based on their sexual orientation from at least some portion of the public marketplace."

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News Item7/11/15 12:38 AM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Ordered to Stop Speaking About 'Obeying God, Not Man'

All of this just breaks my heart --- it's just all so unbelievable...

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News Item7/9/15 9:09 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I just watched the video too. Interesting how we never hear or read about these examples, or hear about Muslims being dragged into court and sued, losing their businesses, etc. Pretty clear that it's only bible believing Christians who are under constant attack.
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News Item7/8/15 8:10 AM
Joe the Protestant  Find all comments by Joe the Protestant
Jessica Dawson wrote:
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4]]]Muslim bakeries refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings VIDEO [/URL]
That was good Jessica. When you scroll down to the comments though, it's shocking to see how vehemently anti Christian people are.
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News Item7/5/15 6:18 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
well, there is that, but many places in ME, when a man comes to Christ the missionary has to counsel men on how to treat their wives because the perverted forms are what are taught if its sodomites or not.... the mixing of species, of transgender, all these things are "like the days of Noah". the whitecoats have been our priests and we see the rise of a new Babylon, with the Hollywood cabal at the front, but the same ungodly spirit among other false religions. same as it ever was. monsatan's mixing of seed, polluting the seed and making it self destruct and the loss of health of those who partake of it, the taking in of the blood of fetal cell lines and the altering of DNA that is likely occurring. these are things Americans call industry and economy, yet it is really a repeat of the days of Noah. the transgenders the mixing of things that are not to be mixed, unholy alliances, that create short lifespans and as my acquaintance who died young of colon cancer, the forcing of all to these systems under our electronics and the surveillance control mechanisms to induce compliance and lack of alternative. the punishing of those who eat naturally and free range children, these are all signs of a new Babylon.

Christians are to "come out of Babylon" spiritually follow Christ.

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News Item7/5/15 2:14 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4]]]Muslim bakeries refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings VIDEO [/URL]
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News Item7/5/15 7:49 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Phillip Mezzapelle from Italy writes:

"Would a cake maker of the muslim faith be sued in the same way that these christians are being sued?"

Um, nope. Muslim businesses have refused the same exact services, with some even posting refusal of service signs on exterior door/windows and it might receive a two sentence blurb on page 23 of a local paper. Only the Christians, born again Christians, that.is, are under attack. Others can repeat what Christians get sued over without mention, public outcry, or repercussion of any sort.

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News Item7/4/15 5:43 PM
jamie | iowa  Find all comments by jamie
This is all disneyland fun and gamescompared to the persecution ahead. But we know that nothing seperates us from n the love of God 7
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News Item7/4/15 3:15 PM
Phillip Mezzapelle | Italy  Contact via emailFind all comments by Phillip Mezzapelle
Would a cake maker of the muslim faith be sued in the same way that these christians are being sued?
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News Item7/4/15 1:03 PM
JamesC | Fallbrook, CA  Find all comments by JamesC
But recall the former days when, after you were enlightened, you endured a hard struggle with sufferings, sometimes being publicly exposed to reproach and affliction, and sometimes being partners with those so treated. For you had compassion on those in prison, and you joyfully accepted the plundering of your property, since you knew that you yourselves had a better possession and an abiding one. Therefore do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward. For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you may receive what is promised. For, "Yet a little while, and the coming one will come and will not delay; but my righteous one shall live by faith, and if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him." But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who have faith and preserve their souls. - Hebrews 10:32-39
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News Item7/4/15 11:45 AM
PS | USA  Find all comments by PS
Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. (?Acts? ?5?:?28-29, 31-32? KJV)

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News Item7/4/15 10:33 AM
Mourner  Find all comments by Mourner
Deut 32:28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.

29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!

30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?

31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:

33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?

35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

36 For the Lord shall judge (vindicate) his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.

Psalm 135:14 For the Lord will judge his people, and he will repent himself concerning his servants.

Gen.18:25; Psalm 148:7-14; Proverbs 8

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News Item7/4/15 9:47 AM
pennnelope  Find all comments by pennnelope
spreading hades on earth. dysfunctional people, many probably from abusive homes in their vengeance against the living God aim to steal from functioning, healthy families, to try to drag them into the miry clay that they exist in. they don't understand how the Kingdom of God works. they may inflict pain and cause some destruction, if that gives them momentary satisfaction, but nothing that endures. yet the forgiveness of Christ endures forever and life with Him never ends. better for their own souls they leave behind the past and turn to Christ, He is the only living hope. That's why the Christian witness will not be silenced, the rocks will cry out about Him!
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News Item7/4/15 9:16 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
mr b. wrote:
how can someone get "emotionally damaged " being denied a cake ? This gay agenda has gone way too far
Suggestion:
By "changing the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, "Rom.1:23

In other words, by exalting mankid, its 'feelings' and rights above God's and other fellow humans.

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News Item7/4/15 9:00 AM
John for JESUS | Atl  Find all comments by John for JESUS
They should counter sue for emotional distress and lost wages due to religious discrimination!
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News Item7/4/15 9:00 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Oh, they can't amd don't. Just like the athiests, the sodomites have found their niche in todays litigious society to make a quick buck on the back of God. I have no doubt, whatsoever, that packs of these people compile lists of local bakerys to test. I'm also certain that they have honed their skills to include hidden body cameras and/or recording devices to make their cases air tight. I would also say that unscrupulous ambulance chasing attorneys have also become involved by organizing witch hunts just like many do to defaud insurance companys by setting up staged accidents with false personal injury; the crash for cash scams.
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News Item7/4/15 8:42 AM
mr b. | New York  Find all comments by mr b.
how can someone get "emotionally damaged " being denied a cake ? This gay agenda has gone way too far
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News Item7/4/15 8:14 AM
Dr. Why  Find all comments by Dr. Why
This judge's decision hurt my feelings. Can I sue him for emotional damages?
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News Item7/4/15 6:53 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian wrote in his order:
"To allow … a for-profit business to deny any services to people because of their protected class, would be tantamount to allowing legal separation of people based on their sexual orientation from at least some portion of the public marketplace."

“Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?” Job 38:2

Throughout history sophistry has been the trademark of repressing religious systems, nowadays it has become the unchallenged tool in places of judgement.

When the state fines citizens $135000 for upholding personal beliefs the country can safely suspect subjugation, oppression and totalitarianism.

“ Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
having the understanding darkened,
being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them,
because of the blindness of their heart:

Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness,
to work all uncleanness with greediness.

But ye have not so learned Christ”

Eph. 4:17-20

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News Item7/4/15 4:45 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
I hope they stand up to this nonsense, continue to "obey God not man" and are blessed in whatever consequences the Lord permits to happen.
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