13 "Gay" Bakeries Deny Christian's Request for Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake
Christian bakeries that refuse to make pro-homosexual marriage cakes are persecuted throughout America. They get sued, they get fined, they get death threats, and they lose their businesses. So we at Shoebat.com called some 13 prominent bakers who are either gay or pro-gay and requested that they make a pro-traditional marriage cake with the words "Gay marriage is wrong" placed on the cake. Each one denied us service, and even used deviant insults and obscenities against us. One baker even said that she would make me a cookie with a large phallus on it. We recorded all of this in a video that will stun the American people as to how militant and intolerant the homosexual agenda is:...
John Yurich USA wrote: This proves once and for all that homosexuals are not tolerant of Christianity but are intolerant of Christianity. If they were tolerant of Christianity then they would not refuse to bake a cake that states homosexuality is wrong.
Are these customers going into stores announcing the sexual preferences? I can understand customers requesting that a cake be topped two people of the same sex and being denied. But how does a gay baker know the heterosexual customer's gender?
Why do gays have to announce their gender preferences? What am I missing?
Gays are like grasshoppers and locusts. They are destroying more than any adulterer, murderer, etc. ever has. There is even a high rate of murder among them. Why?
what's the point of making a wedding cake that's not decorated? I can do that at home for 3 bucks.
those in sin are pushing back society so far that Godly men cannot run businesses, are run out and the fornicators and such are ruling over them in their delusion and in this case their barrenness.
what are Christians to do? stay in their homes and hold their teddy bear and beg for public assistance?
its ridiculous how far and strange these arguments go.
and a certain point people have to shed a light on how ludicrous these things are.
human dignity requires that lines be drawn. young people need to be taught that. many times "no thank you" is more dignity than "yes". there are words for people that will do whatever whenever to gain the approval of others, and the words for those kind aren't so nice.
I was suggesting that homosexuals could add the bride/groom figures...purchase them separately...everybody could purchase the bride/groom figures and apply as desired on their own time. And I did state that the cakes purchased by other sinners usually don't celebrate those particular sins.However, I have seen cakes out in the open in common bakeries that do have abominable depictions on them for bachelor/bachelorette parties. I haven't been in a bakery lately so I'm not sure what all they presently have on display. A generic wedding cake,a generic birthday cake,a generic graduation cake are all viable and could still have options as to color,layer,flavor,icing,etc. The point about baking cakes for fornicators,for example, doesn't negate the fact that the baker is making a cake for these sinners. The baker may not know, but 2 heterosexual fornicators with "their" corresponding figure on the cake is,in reality, no different than 2 figures of the same sex. Generic cakes are a viable solution. Serving one class of sinners is no different than serving another.
s c from Oh you can not have the best of both worlds. You seriously need to ponder I Corinthians 5:10. You said in one sentence that putting a male/female figurine says heterosexual marriage is right. (implied from your 2nd sentence) then you said baking for fornicators, adulteries, idolators, etc was wrong. Thing is those people are not coming in requesting a cake that says I want to honor my adultery, my fornication or my idolatry. (it is a mute point if it does in your thinking you are not ordering the cake) The gays want a cake that honors their sinful lifestyle. Your let's face it statement falls apart. Also, people don't want generic cakes so it is not a feasible solution.
Not quite. No homosexual couple,when requesting a cake with 2 of whatever on the cake, has also requested that the baker also write: "Heterosexual marriage is wrong." I get the gist of what you're saying but one is implicit,the other is not. Personally, I think that bakers ought to just bake cakes. The figurines can be purchased separately. There. Generic cakes. Customers can purchase figurines and apply them after the fact. Let's face it-bakers have been baking cakes for fornicators,adulterers,idolators,etc. While they have not depicted or condoned any said activity in the design of the cake,they ,nonetheless, have been instrumental in providing them (sinners) with wedding cakes.Answer: Generic cakes- Top 'em yourselves.
s c wrote: AMZ makes a valid point "...of course they would object to writing "Gay marriage is wrong" on the cake." One cannot expect people who know no better/non Christians to go along with such a statement. And,it was in poor "taste" (not an effective way to expose error) or to draw people to the Truth.
AMZ does not make a valid point. If a gay person demands a gay marriage cake (or whatever) they are requesting the baker take a stand in favor of gay marriage, or the same thing as saying make me a cake that says gay marriage is right. It the baker makes a traditional cake, it in no way states that gay marriage is wrong. The only equivelant is what this guy did. The opposite of gay marriage is right is gay marriage is wrong, not traditional marriage is okay. The gay bakers are not against traditional marriage they are for saying gays should have same rights. The guy exposed the hypocrisy of the law passed in California forcing Christian bakers to bake pro gay rights. The reaction of the gays showed they are not about just making things equal, which is what they say they are doing. He wasn't trying to evangelize or draw people to the truth, he was trying to expose the double standard.(see Matthew 23 for a Biblical precedent)
AMZ makes a valid point "...of course they would object to writing "Gay marriage is wrong" on the cake." One cannot expect people who know no better/non Christians to go along with such a statement. And,it was in poor "taste" (not an effective way to expose error) or to draw people to the Truth.
AMZ wrote: Why did you not just ask for a traditional wedding cake with a male and female doll/replica on top? You added something that has nothing to do with a traditional wedding cake. I am totally against the homosexual agenda, but you somehow messed it up; of course they would object to writing "Gay marriage is wrong" on the cake. In this way you didn't prove anything, which is really too bad. AMZ
I wouldn't agree with AMZ because, while a male/male female/female dolls on top says gay marriage is right, a male/female doll on top does not say gay marriage is wrong.
I agree with AMZ. The fact that they requested "Gay marriage is wrong" makes the whole argument redundant as they are ultimately making an attack. What do you expect? Of course they are going to get upset over that.
If they'd asked for a regular cake and they'd denied it, then you have an intolerance case. This whole article and video is self defeating and proves nothing.
Why did you not just ask for a traditional wedding cake with a male and female doll/replica on top? You added something that has nothing to do with a traditional wedding cake. I am totally against the homosexual agenda, but you somehow messed it up; of course they would object to writing "Gay marriage is wrong" on the cake. In this way you didn't prove anything, which is really too bad. AMZ
Unless we pray for, love and show compassion for sinners, our end may be the same as the their's. What are we glorying in provoking them for? Aren't we to cry for them, that the same mercies shown to some of us might be known among them as well?
"We recorded all of this in a video that will stun the American people as to how militant and intolerant the homosexual agenda is:"
It should be no surprise to the Christian that the world and its sodomite agenda is intolerant of all things Bible. What Satan and his accomplice sin are doing is fighting against God and Christ and the Name of Jesus. Anything done in the name of Jesus as the Bible teaches is attacked by Satan and his followers the reprobates in the world. God destroyed Satan's cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and he has always been angry about that. God being consistent in justice and righteousness will destroy this modern Sodom and Gomorrah too.
But as always the victory is in Christ.
God states~ Psalm 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. 2 God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. 3 Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 4 Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread: they have not called upon God.
God judges the half-baked world system: Hos 7:6 For they have made ready their heart like an oven, whiles they lie in wait: their baker sleepeth all the night; in the morning it burneth as a flaming fire. Hos 7:7 They are all hot as an oven, and have devoured their judges; all their kings are fallen: there is none among them that calleth unto me. Hos 7:8 Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.