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TUESDAY, JUN 3, 2014  |  16 comments
First Minister defends Belfast pastor over Islam criticism

Northern Ireland's First Minister, Peter Robinson, has come under fire for defending a Belfast pastor who spoke out about Islam, reports Christian Concern for our Nation.

During a recent sermon, James McConnell, Pastor of Whitewell Metropolitan Tabernacle Church, said that "Islam is heathen, Islam is Satanic, Islam is a doctrine spawned in Hell". His comments were prompted by the case of Meriam Yehya Ibrahim, the Sudanese Christian woman who is facing the death penalty for apostasy from Islam.

Police in Northern Ireland are investigating a 'hate crime motive' in relation to the incident.

Mr Robinson, who has attended the church on a number of occasions and plans to continue to do so, said that there "isn't an ounce of hatred in [James McConnell's] bones", describing him as "someone who preaches the gospel". ...


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News Item6/5/14 11:39 AM
The Roman Catholic Reformation  Find all comments by The Roman Catholic Reformation
The Proof In Holy Writ THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Was An Anti-Papist, Anti-Hierarchial &-Or Anti-Nicolaitan Is Found In The New Testament:

#1-"And Call No Man Your Father Upon The Earth: For One Is Your Father, Which Is In Heaven."--Matthew 23:9

#2-"But This Thou Hast, That Thou Hatest The Deeds Of The Nicolaitanes (Laity-Conquerors &-Or 'Clergy'), Which I (Jesus Christ) Hate."--Revelation 2:6

#3-"So Hast Thou Also Them That Hold The Doctrine Of The Nicolaitanes (Laity-Conquerors &-Or 'Clergy'), Which Thing I (Jesus Christ) Hate."--Revelation 2:15

The 1517 Roman Catholic Reformation, Headed By Martin Luther In Germany, Realized Historic Protestant Christians Couldn't Reform A Harlot, Whore &-Or Prostitute Roman Catholic "Church"; So, They Broke Away & Established A Separate "Reformed" Roman Catholicism.

1600s-1700s *Jansenism* Was Another Historic
Roman Catholic Reformation.

Yet Another Historic Roman Catholic Reformation--Canadian & U.S. Based--Was Headed By French Canadian Temperance Priest Charles T. Chiniquy: Resulting In The Establishment Of The Biblical Literalist & Historic Protestant "Christian Catholic Church" Of Canada & The U.S. !

**And Yet Another Roman Catholic Reformation Swept America In The 1970s-90s Headed By Ex-"Jesuit" Priest Alberto Rivera !**

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News Item6/5/14 11:01 AM
MS  Find all comments by MS
The Roman Catholic Reformation wrote:
Yes, Especially Professing Protestant Church People--And I'm Not Referring To Mainline Protestant Church People; As, They've Been Duped From The Get-Go--I'm Referring To Present Day Christian-Fundamentalist &-Or Biblical-Literalist Professing Protestant Church People !
*********

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News Item6/5/14 10:59 AM
The Roman Catholic Reformation  Find all comments by The Roman Catholic Reformation
Michael Hranek wrote:
RC[R]
Church people really miss it badly on this, don't they.
Yes, Especially Professing Protestant Church People--And I'm Not Referring To Mainline Protestant Church People; As, They've Been Duped From The Get-Go By The "Jesuits"--I'm Referring To Present Day Christian-Fundamentalist &-Or Biblical-Literalist Professing Protestant Church People !

The Proof In Holy Writ The LORD JESUS CHRIST Was An Anti-Papist, Anti-Hierarchial &-Or Anti-Nicolaitan Is Found In The New Testament:

#1-"And Call No Man Your Father Upon The Earth: For One Is Your Father, Which Is In Heaven."--Matthew 23:9

#2-"But This Thou Hast, That Thou Hatest The Deeds Of The Nicolaitanes (Laity-Conquerors &-Or 'Clergy'), Which I (Jesus Christ) Hate."--Revelation 2:6

#3-"So Hast Thou Also Them That Hold The Doctrine Of The Nicolaitanes (Laity-Conquerors &-Or 'Clergy'), Which Thing I (Jesus Christ) Hate."--Revelation 2:15

The 1517 Roman Catholic Reformation, Headed By Martin Luther In Germany, Realized Historic Protestant Christians Couldn't Reform A Harlot, Whore &-Or Prostitute Roman Catholic "Church"; So, They Broke Away & Established A Separate "Reformed" Roman Catholicism.

1600s-1700s *Jansenism* Was Another Historic
Roman Catholic Reformation.

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News Item6/5/14 6:06 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
The Roman Catholic Reformation wrote:
What Almost Everyone Has Been Hoodwinked To Believe--By The 'Mind-Controlling' "Jesuits" Of The Roman Vatican Since The 1500s--Is That "The Reformation" Was More A "Roman 'Catholic' " Reformation Than It Was A "Protestant" Reformation !
Remember People, It Was Roman-"Catholicism" That Was Being REFORMED & Not Historic Anti-Nicolaitan-/-Anti-Hierarchial-/-Anti-Papist PROTESTANTISM: Which Existed As An Anti-Clerical Movement Since The 1st-Century A.D. Under The Writings Of The Apostles Of The Lord Jesus Christ: Especially The Writings Of The Apostle John, The Revelator !
RCF
Church people really miss it badly on this, don't they.
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News Item6/4/14 8:52 PM
The Roman Catholic Reformation  Find all comments by The Roman Catholic Reformation
Michael Hranek wrote:
Politely, there aint no such thing as "our faith" when it comes to believers and Roman Catholicism
You ought to know that
And btw a clever distraction on what Revelations says about the Great ..... you know that too. Whose Catechism says (Roman) Catholics and Muslims adore the same "God" imagine that
[URL=http://carm.org/catholic-catechisms-view-muslim-god-wrong]]]CCC 841[/URL]
What Almost Everyone Has Been Hoodwinked To Believe--By The 'Mind-Controlling' "Jesuits" Of The Roman Vatican Since The 1500s--Is That "The Reformation" Was More A "Roman 'Catholic' " Reformation Than It Was A "Protestant" Reformation !

Remember People, It Was Roman-"Catholicism" That Was Being REFORMED & Not Historic Anti-Nicolaitan-/-Anti-Hierarchial-/-Anti-Papist PROTESTANTISM: Which Existed As An Anti-Clerical Movement Since The 1st-Century A.D. Under The Writings Of The Apostles Of The Lord Jesus Christ: Especially The Writings Of The Apostle John, The Revelator !

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News Item6/3/14 8:02 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
SteveR wrote:
our faith
Politely, there aint no such thing as "our faith" when it comes to believers and Roman Catholicism

You ought to know that

And btw a clever distraction on what Revelations says about the Great ..... you know that too. Whose Catechism says Catholics and Muslims adore the same "God" imagine that

[URL=http://carm.org/catholic-catechisms-view-muslim-god-wrong]]]CCC 841[/URL]

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News Item6/3/14 5:46 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
S.Taylor wrote:
That certainly was a stern warning from God, and one which was very badly ignored resulting in tremendous loss.
I thank God that under the New Covenant, which I as a gentile can be a part of, the discipline for heresy or apostasy is excommunication rather than death.
The true 'DARK HISTORY' of our faith is when BOTH Catholic and Protestant had the truth in their hands, and they murdered one another & each other anyways...... Talk about your red horse of Revelation
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News Item6/3/14 5:04 PM
S.Taylor | Mid-West  Contact via emailFind all comments by S.Taylor
Halorown wrote:
No.
Just thought you would like to see what the Bible reveals of God's mind on that subject. It was you who suggested that this kind of action was quote "dark history" Do you perceive the OT as dark history?
That certainly was a stern warning from God, and one which was very badly ignored resulting in tremendous loss.
I thank God that under the New Covenant, which I as a gentile can be a part of, the discipline for heresy or apostasy is excommunication rather than death.
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News Item6/3/14 3:59 PM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland.  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
Just on the news that the first minister Peter Robinson has made a public apology over his comments on Islam so obviously he is prepared to jettison his support for Pastor McConnell.
Sadly his political career & ambitions trumps speaking the Truth. A fair weather friend comes to mind
This leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.
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News Item6/3/14 2:12 PM
Halorown  Find all comments by Halorown
S.Taylor wrote:
Are you trying to justify the violence which happened in N. Ireland and elsewhere?
Historically, each opposing side always assumes theirs is the side of truth, and so the killing goes on and on. Jesus has shown us a much better way.
No.
Just thought you would like to see what the Bible reveals of God's mind on that subject. It was you who suggested that this kind of action was quote "dark history" Do you perceive the OT as dark history?
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News Item6/3/14 1:13 PM
S.Taylor | Mid-West  Contact via emailFind all comments by S.Taylor
Halorown wrote:
These Muslims come over here because their own country is badly organised, incompetent and mismanaged, uncivilised and dangerous because they try to slaughter each other. And here they try to take over and make decent countries as stupid, satanic and ridiculous as their own corrupt societies and nations.
=========

Deuter 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

Are you trying to justify the violence which happened in N. Ireland and elsewhere?
Historically, each opposing side always assumes theirs is the side of truth, and so the killing goes on and on. Jesus has shown us a much better way.
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News Item6/3/14 11:36 AM
LJ  Find all comments by LJ
Would recommend Pastor Ian Browns message he delivered on 5/25/14, concerning Islam.
Can be found on Sermon Audio.
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News Item6/3/14 11:00 AM
Halorown  Find all comments by Halorown
These Muslims come over here because their own country is badly organised, incompetent and mismanaged, uncivilised and dangerous because they try to slaughter each other. And here they try to take over and make decent countries as stupid, satanic and ridiculous as their own corrupt societies and nations.
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S.Taylor wrote:
Catholic's and Protestants have their own dark history when it comes to the death penalty for heresy and apostasy.
Deuter 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
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News Item6/3/14 7:54 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
S.Taylor wrote:
I fully agree with pastor James McConnell's assessment of Islam. Sadly though both Catholic's and Protestants have their own dark history when it comes to the death penalty for heresy and apostasy.
S.Taylor
How do I word this???
Catholicsim and the Reformation which came from Roman Catholicism both practised as self-justification in persecuting those they viewed as heretics

Pastor Marc Monte's message
(If you haven't listened to it already it is well worth the time)
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=10170442738]]]Islam: America's Number One Enemy[/URL]
gives a wonderful contrast between Islam and Jesus Christ

Again I hope you all listen if you haven't already

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News Item6/3/14 7:40 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
S. Taylor, except with Christians it's history, with Islam not at all and with some parts of Catholicdom ( [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC2W1101.pdf]]]Understanding Islam and Roman Catholicism[i/URL] ) not so much, either, [URL=http://www.chick.com/bc/1999/popevisit.asp]]]"Rome when in minority is as gentle as a lamb, when in equality is as clever as a fox, and when in the majority is as fierce as a tiger."[/URL]
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News Item6/3/14 7:14 AM
S.Taylor | Mid-West  Contact via emailFind all comments by S.Taylor
I fully agree with pastor James McConnell's assessment of Islam. Sadly though both Catholic's and Protestants have their own dark history when it comes to the death penalty for heresy and apostasy.
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