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FRONT PAGE  |  6/5/2020
WEDNESDAY, JUN 19, 2013  |  3 comments
N.Y. Gov. Andrew Cuomo's Radical Abortion Bill Fails

A bill pushed hard by Gov. Andrew Cuomo that would have given New York women the “right” to abort their babies after 24 weeks of pregnancy has failed in the State Senate, killing the measure for now. The measure was a central plank of Cuomo's supposed “women's equality” platform that he touted in his January 9 State of the State address and which he promised to push in the spring legislative session.

Bloomberg News reported that the state legislature's Independent Democratic Conference (IDC), “a group of four Democrats who run the senate with Republicans, introduced nine of Cuomo’s 10 Women’s Equality Agenda (WEA) measures [June 16], including enhanced penalties for human traffickers and increased legal damages for women who aren’t paid equally.” But, added the report, the group of liberal lawmakers “left out the governor’s abortion plank.”

The abortion bill would have effectively legalized ...

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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The New York legislature or the courts are going to have to remove the vagueness of "health" from the New York law. So you brought up a point that needs to be examined
FactCheck wrote:
The RHA removes abortion from the state’s penal code altogether; the homicide statute still defines a “person” as “a human being who has been born and is alive.” Killing a baby once born was and is still considered a homicide.

Proponents of the bill argued that abortion should be treated as a health care matter, not as a criminal one. Some pointed to examples of women being forced to travel out of state to terminate pregnancies with fetuses that doctors said would not survive outside the womb. Opponents, on the other hand, said the change removes an important prosecutorial power — such as being able to fully charge a domestic abuser for ending a woman’s pregnancy....


New York’s new law does not explicitly define “health.”

In what is considered a companion case, Doe v. Bolton, the U.S. Supreme Court held that “medical judgment may be exercised in the light of all factors — physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age — ..."

excerpts from, "Addressing New York’s New Abortion Law"


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Just thinking | grapeland  Find all comments by Just thinking
Jim Lincoln wrote:
"No, New York abortion law doesn't let mothers abort babies a minute before they would be born--Politifact"
It won't make the law any more popular with the anti-abortionist crowd, but it will clear up some misperceptions anyway.
Yours is the misperception. Read the bill.

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"..within 24 weeks....or the abortion is necessary to protect the
49 patient's life or health"

"Health" can mean anything that might upset the mother should the child be born.

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7 Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person [or an
8 unborn child with which a female has been pregnant for more than
9 twenty-four weeks]

The bracketed portions are omitted in the new "Reproductive Health Act." Thus it is no longer a homicide to kill the baby after 24 weeks, up to birth. How can this be?

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15 Homicide[, abortion] and related offenses; [definitions of terms]
16 definition.
17 The following [definitions are] definition is applicable to this arti-
18 cle:
19 [1.] "Person," when referring to the victim of a homicide, means a
20 human being who has been born and is alive.

The child has to be born to be accepted as human. You agree?


News Item4/1/19 3:17 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
This Bill did pass in 2019.

As is often happens, I was looking for something else and I ran across this.

Ciara O'Rourke wrote:
The New York law is part of a trend:
In states where many people favor abortion rights, legislatures are moving to make the Roe vs. Wade standard part of state law.

"With the signing of this bill, we are sending a clear message that whatever happens in Washington, women in New York will always have the fundamental right to control their body," Cuomo said....

excerpt from, "No, New York abortion law doesn't let mothers abort babies a minute before they would be born--Politifact"

It won't make the law any more popular with the anti-abortionist crowd, but it will clear up some misperceptions anyway.

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