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Choice News FRIDAY, FEB 11, 2011  |  13 comments
Ky. Senate Passes Bill to Teach Bible in Public Schools
The Kentucky Senate passed a bill Wednesday that would add Bible classes to the curriculum in public schools.

The measure would direct the Kentucky Board of Education to create guidelines on a curriculum around the Bible. According to the proposal, students would be able to take a Bible course as a social studies elective centered on the Hebrew Scriptures, Old Testament of the Bible, the New Testament, or a combination of the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament of the Bible.

Sen. Joe Bowen (R-Owensboro), the bill's sponsor, said the purpose of the legislation is Bible literacy. ...


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News Item2/17/11 2:03 PM
Correct Bible  Find all comments by Correct Bible
correction wrote:
Its the NASB which removes the deity of Christ.

Matt 6:33 KJV "But seek ye first the KINGDOM OF GOD, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." NASB "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added to you." Matt 16:20 KJV "Then charged He his disciples that they should tell no man that He was Jesus the Christ." NASB "Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ." NASB leaves out "Jesus," as it does in numerous verses. John 1:27 KJV "He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose." NASB "It is He who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie." NASB leaves out "preferred before me."

John 9:35 KJV "Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?"

NASB "Jesus heard that they had put him out; and finding him, He said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"

NASB changes 'Dost thou believe on the Son of God?' to 'Do you believe in the Son of Man?'

It does away with Christ's' divinity.

Amen.

The KING JAMES BIBLE Is THE COMPLETE ENGLISH BIBLE !

The NASB Is INCOMPLETE & EVIL !

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News Item2/15/11 1:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim  Lincoln
No, doubt Mike, the Dept. of Education can use a great overhaul, and I would probably say there isn't much of need for it all. It's guilty of wasting money, until proven otherwise. I did find that article, nothing long, and it was a Kentucky state senator who pointed out they can have those classes without the law, if any school chooses to do so. But religious education belongs in the home and church--not in state schools. The article by the way, [URL=http://cincinnati.com/blogs/nkypolitics/2011/02/09/senate-passes-bill-to-teach-bible-in-public-schools/]]]Senate passes bill to teach Bible in public schools[/URL].

Proverbs 22
6 Train up a child in the way he should go, Even when he is old he will not depart from it.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

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News Item2/14/11 6:04 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Mike of New York, I do believe that Thomas Jefferson, thought there was a wall put between Church and State, q.v., [URL=http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html]]]Reply to Danbury Baptist Association[/URL]. I think Bumbling Bush should have been impeached for his Faith-based initiative.
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Yes, Jefferson did say "wall of separation" but did not mean it in the way it is interpreted all over the place today. If you read the link, you'll find he was referring to the national legislature only, and that it (Congress) was to keep out of the business of conscience. He did not address this separation at the State level at all, in keeping with the First Amendment, which also does not. In other words, what Kentucky does in this area is up to the people of Kentucky, and none of the business of Congress, or federal courts. If you want to oppose something worthwhile opposing, consider promoting the dismantling of the Department of Education. Where is the wall of separation between education and state? It must be there, for there is no Constitutional authority that allows the Federal government to be involved in education.
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News Item2/14/11 2:28 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim  Lincoln
Mike of New York, I do believe that Thomas Jefferson, thought there was a wall put between Church and State, q.v., [URL=http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html]]]Reply to Danbury Baptist Association[/URL]. I think Bumbling Bush should have been impeached for his Faith-based initiative. I least some Jews had the intelligence to see the problems with it, q.v., [URL=http://www.adl.org/religious_freedom/resource_kit/faith_based_initiative.asp]]]The Faith-Based Initiative and ‘Charitable Choice’:--Harmful to Religious Liberty and Civil Rights[/URL] (I think this group has it wrong on Intelligent Design!)

As it was pointed out by I believe a member of the Kentucky House, there's nothing now to stop Kentucky schools teaching the Bible. This law still make it an elective choice, and as far as "preaching the gospel" in such a circumstances,

Abraham Lincoln said or, wrote:
People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like.
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News Item2/14/11 11:52 AM
michael ventura | lake forest ca  Contact via emailFind all comments by michael ventura
I see some comments worried that the teachers themselves may not be saved.
Not to worry my friend God states that His word will not return unto Him void.
As long as the word is preached, taucht, and heard a true child of God will be drawn to Christ and will be saved. Praise God to even allow us to tell others of His magnificent Gospel plan to gather His elect.
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News Item2/14/11 8:28 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Barry I agree entirely, on those comments I don't need to add anything. There was an interesting and very short article in a secular Kentucky newspaper, which pointed out the same sort of bill was passed last year and the Kentucky House let it die. A commentator to the article just asked what wasn't clear about the Constitutional Amendment on separation of Church and State.
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Perhaps the commentator should have been reminded there is no Constitutional amendment requiring separation of church and state. Even a Kentucky newspaper article implying otherwise doesn't make it so.
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News Item2/13/11 3:36 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim  Lincoln
Barry I agree entirely, on those comments I don't need to add anything. There was an interesting and very short article in a secular Kentucky newspaper, which pointed out the same sort of bill was passed last year and the Kentucky House let it die. A commentator to the article just asked what wasn't clear about the Constitutional Amendment on separation of Church and State.

I am surprised that Moderator "A" remove one of my messages since I don't remember calling anyone a name, and just pointed out such things as [URL=http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=1824]]]Part III: From the KJV to the RV (from Elegance to Accuracy)[/URL] and about how the deity of Christ was handled better by new versions of the bible compared to the AV, I guess you'll have to read those comments by John Ankerberg , etc., at, [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/practical-christianity/PC3W0403.pdf]]]The Conflict Over Different Bible Versions–Part Six[/URL].

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News Item2/13/11 2:50 PM
JR | UNITED States of America  Find all comments by JR
I think there are both pros and cons to the passing of this bill.

Pro: A bill was actually passed to allow the Bible in schools!!!! That's a step forward no matter what.

Con: As others have said, the teachers who are teaching those classes are very probably going to be unsaved. That defeats the purpose, doesn't it.

But at least we now have a precedent, right? This is an example to other states to do the same thing.

We should pray that God would glorify himself through the teaching of these classes, and pray that other states would pass the same bill, but improved much more.

[As an aside, from what I've heard: the NASB is the most literal translation of all the ones I know, so it is probably more correct in certain cases than the KJV, although the NASB isn't as euphonic as the KJV.]

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News Item2/13/11 9:05 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
I agree Jim, regardless of what bible is used, I'm not sure that the school would teach the Bible correctly. It isn't in the schools domain. It isn't what they have prepared for. I do think that churches are failing, miserabley, about teaching the young and old about the bible. I've told this story before, a good friend of mine is a deacon at a baptist church. He said he rarly reads the bible. He just isn't a reader. Wow. I don't feel that prayer or the bible belong in school! Maybe once upon a time they coexisted. But not today!!!
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News Item2/12/11 3:09 PM
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News Item2/12/11 2:55 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim  Lincoln
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News Item2/12/11 2:38 PM
correction  Find all comments by correction
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Let's say for a moment that an excellent American Bible, such as the NASB
Its the NASB which removes the deity of Christ.

Matt 6:33 KJV "But seek ye first the KINGDOM OF GOD, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
NASB "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added to you."

Matt 16:20 KJV "Then charged He his disciples that they should tell no man that He was Jesus the Christ."
NASB "Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ." NASB leaves out "Jesus," as it does in numerous verses.

John 1:27 KJV "He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose."
NASB ""It is He who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie."" NASB leaves out "preferred before me."

John 9:35 KJV "Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?"
NASB "Jesus heard that they had put him out; and finding him, He said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?""
NASB changes 'Dost thou believe on the Son of God?' to 'Do you believe in the Son of Man?' It does away with Christ's' divinity.

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News Item2/12/11 2:13 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim  Lincoln
Let's say for a moment that an excellent American Bible, such as the [URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/]]]New American Standard Bible[/URL] is used, free from historical baggage of White Supremacy, attacks on the deity of Christ the Holy Spirit, and one free from lewd words and bad grammar. You will then offend people who want to use those Bibles that do have those problems.

Who wants unbelievers teaching children about the Bible? Too many young adults in college seem to have problems handling those attacks. Christian parents should at least have some time to prepare their children and they should be prepared themselves to handle those attacks. Their children do need be faced with those particular questions in a secular pre-college, public schools.

I would hope the Kentucky House or Governor will kill this bill.

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