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FRONT PAGE  |  9/19/2020
THURSDAY, SEP 16, 2010  |  18 comments
Report Reveals Salaries of Megachurch Pastors
The average salary for a lead pastor in a megachurch is $147,000, according to a recent survey.

Salaries for lead pastors go as high as $400,000 to as low as $40,000, Leadership Network reported in its 2010 Large Church Salary and Benefits Report.


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News Item5/31/16 11:43 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Penny, sometimes I think we don't hear about pastors who should leave but most of the dirt is swept under the rug. You would be surprised how often this isn't applied

1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.---ESV

Dr. Rugh, was given plenty of time to prepare a sermon. Other pastors generally took care of visitations, marriages, and many of the other social functions.

Now, John MacArthur, has often had a full plate, and on occasion I think it shows.

I just looked up today, and you can get his Study Bible free as an Android app Now I think the free And Bible app with the jfb commentary would be equivalent. Also I'm not too happy with the size and intrusion that the MacArthur app has. Still it is free. As I said, but John turns back into the ministry I don't know. However, I do not believe that a pastor's salary is a private affair. You can say his job description determines that it isn't going to be- - if he's doing his job correctly.

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News Item5/31/16 10:14 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
thanks Bro's Observer, John UK, do the preachers take turns and do they have the time to put into study, if I may ask?

Jim Lincoln wrote:
you have given a low estimate of his compensation.
Jim, I don't mean to sound like a busybody, people's salaries aren't on the top of my mind, when I see unresolved issues in the church, and good men leaving the pulpit I start to ask questions.
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News Item5/31/16 8:37 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Penny, if you're talking about John MacArthur, you have given a low estimate of his compensation. I have already stated my view several times about pastoral compensation, q.v., again listen to the sermon and read my comments for, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=10100412456]]]Provision and Protection for Elders[/URL]. I understand that the compensation for my present pastor is public knowledge. since it's a small church I don't expect it to be huge. For John MacArthur, or for that matter Dr. Rugh, I don't tell you or even suggest that you send them contributions or support them financially in other ways - - except I have mentioned the John MacArthur Study Bible. I have a copy of that myself. Considering all the work that went into it, the workman is indeed worthy of his hire, and I'm not sure if John doesn't spread the money for that around to his Seminary also? But everything else, that John puts out there is free. It's up to his congregation to figure out if his compensation from his salary and published works is excessive or not. I know I'm not adding to it. But, the theology of both men is sound and they state it in very good fashion.
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News Item5/30/16 8:01 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
penned wrote:
.....Do the tithes roll in when the message is, "if you live for Christ you will suffer?" .... is Christ worth it? find the one that answers yes, they are the qualified.
would these money changers live like some of the pastor friends I've known for others to know Christ, in poverty? in loss of things?
Well said sister penned!
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News Item5/30/16 5:28 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Penny, you just hit that big button right bang in the centre and scored maximum points from a truly biblical perspective. This has always been mine own position, and I'm right glad to belong to a fellowship where no-one gets a salary at all but all is done for the love of God and for precious souls.
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News Item5/30/16 5:03 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
yes, humble pastors are having to leave (they set a need for multiple degrees to be competitive, high debt, low wages in part time, increased autism and illness in children and are expected to church plant, start from nothing with nothing after all the above) while money changers are held up as spiritual advisors. its true. working class men are in entirely different reality than these corporate masters. there is growing divide. tell everyone in the denomination they are racists and prosperous because they live in the west. What a joke.

In the NT I get an entirely different perspective of the qualified servant...

"For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

"For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain." 1 Thess 3

Do the tithes roll in when the message is, "if you live for Christ you will suffer?" .... is Christ worth it? find the one that answers yes, they are the qualified.

would these money changers live like some of the pastor friends I've known for others to know Christ, in poverty? in loss of things?

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News Item5/30/16 4:13 PM
Barney Frank | Mayberry, NC  Find all comments by Barney Frank
I was surprised to hear on Dave Ramsey's radio program that most church pastors are 'bi-vocational' meaning they have to hold down a 2nd job to pay the bills, in addition to being the pastor.

I think he said only 20 percent of them receive a salary sufficient to keep them alive (a 'living wage' as some in govt would call it?).

I don't know where he got his numbers to make that statement, but he is the 3rd most popular radio show host in the USA, so I suppose it has some weight.

Another statistic I've read is that many pastors are leaving the field to work in the secular field (which makes sense when you think they are not getting paid enough).

I know some denominations make it their policy that the pastors have to be 'bi-vocational' by not paying them a regular salary. I guess you could say these are not very prosperous denominations.

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News Item5/30/16 4:12 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I hope you did read the article
Jim, have you considered how much your favorite pastor to quote makes? something like $500,000. How much of that money could be spent to pay for healthy local churches with modest pastors willing to live humbly? And then to think how easily it was to take the office of prophet and pronounce God's will on an invasion that resulted in the diaspora of hundreds of thousands of Christians. I never saw him there volunteering to go with the depleted uranium team nor to sit by their sides the next year as they died of cancer.

does this meet the qualifications of elder?

I'm no social engineer, but these might be questions that within the church need to be asked.

my scriptures speak of suffering servants, many of whom are right here on SA, I have been praying about this very thing, if a man is filled with knowledge and yet has been completely insulated, how has the Word been made real in His life? Its still just a theory then. The gospel life is not a safe and easy life.

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News Item5/30/16 12:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.---ESV

The above says, such people should be fired, but yes, the new pastor should get normal wages and not fall under this category, Penny.

J. Hampton Keathley III wrote:
In our day, ambition is usually connected with some form of self-seeking motivated by selfish desires. It generally refers to a person with some very self-centered, hidden agendas. Such ambition in leaders and in any Christian is a curse to be avoided because leaders with such agendas will always end up manipulating and using others for selfish ends.

Leaders must follow the warning the prophet Jeremiah gave to Baruch in Jeremiah 45:5, “Are you seeking great things for yourself? Do not seek them.”

excerpt from, [URL=https://bible.org/article/qualifications-evaluation-elders-and-deacons]]]Qualifications for the Evaluation of Elders and Deacons[/URL].

Penny, I hope you did read the article on the Elevation Church, not long --and it was a new one for me. I am wondering what is going through this congregation's mind. Sounds like a cult.

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News Item5/30/16 10:52 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
put them on the salary of the average construction worker in their community. FILTHY mammon! they are insulated and have made of themselves a clergy class..... here comes state church.
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News Item5/30/16 1:42 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
While I was looking for something else I came across the tale of two megachurch pastors. It's very interesting. [URL=http://clclt.com/charlotte/greed-seen-as-the-churchs-top-problem-andmdash-so-why-isnt-elevation-angrier-at-pastors-excess/Content?oid=3280274]]]Greed seen as the church's top problem — so why isn't Elevation angrier at pastor's excess?[/URL].

Apparently there are quite a few pastors out there you should even be breaking bread with.

1 Corinthians 5:. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.---ESV

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News Item5/20/16 2:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, the last posting I made shows why I shouldn't do something in the middle of the night--if I'm half asleep. The URL will get you to, [URL=https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/3q3i6m/just_found_out_my_pastor_is_making_360000yr/]]Just]]]Just found out my pastor is making $360,000/yr salary; thinking of leaving the church[/URL]. I certainly can't blame him! In part he said,
BogusBogusOne wrote:
Obviously I'm heartbroken at where my money is going, with my understanding that most of my donations would go to helping those less fortunate. The other members of the church are unaware of his salary and I was asked to keep the salary disclosure secret from everyone else. The other members seem to be unaware of how much the pastor makes and just assumes the church is handling the money as it sees fit.

Has anyone else seen this and struggled with this? Is it right for a pastor to make so much money? I understand that this may be the "free market" at work but the members have no idea about the allocation of their tithes....

The comments to the above were interesting as well, I would say it would be good to look at the post and comments to it.

Confiscatory wages are just plain wrong in my view.

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News Item5/20/16 2:51 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
[URL=https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/3q3i6m/just_found_out_my_pastor_is_making_360000yr/]]Just found out my pastor is making $360,000/yr salary; thinking of leaving the church[/URL] Something I should have added. Interesting commentary about when one's church pastor, begins to get astronomical sumes.
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News Item5/19/16 5:33 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Bob, you have a good question there. It could be some of both. Taking from old churches and adding new believers. I have to say this is a goodly amount of money for a salary, even six years later. A good sermon to listen to is: [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=10100412456]]]Provision and Protection for Elders[/URL] I hope that you find my comments to it to be of interest.

It's somewhat strange that some can have theology that conflicts with us IFB types, such as Piper, Warren, and Kennedy who are or were quite biblical in this matter. Even taking little or no salary from their Church. It should be pointed out.

1st Corinthians 5:11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.---ESV

This means there are quite a few pastors that one shouldn't associate with.

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News Item9/16/10 5:22 PM
Bob | USA  Find all comments by Bob
Scott McMahan wrote:
This explains why so many people are starting churches where I live
Yes, alot of new churches starting up but yet the # attending churches continues to fall...so are these new churches reaching the lost or just taking from the church down the road?
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News Item9/16/10 2:30 PM
Dopy | Canada  Find all comments by Dopy
Since I left the other six dwarfs and branched out on my own, I have been looking for a money making franchise
with a religious flavor to it. Thanks for the tips folks.

("Don't write that Dopy"--Snow White)

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News Item9/16/10 12:59 PM
revivalandreformation | Canada  Find all comments by revivalandreformation
Kind of reminds me of Amway, uh, Quixtar, uh or is it Amway again? Oh whatever, it reminds me of this certain cookie cutter organization that pumps out drones that act, talk and look the same. It wouldn't surprise me if Rick Warren wasn't behind the material that helps these drones set up their own franchise, uh, I mean ministry...
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News Item9/16/10 7:01 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Find all comments by Scott McMahan
This explains why so many people are starting churches where I live, anyway. Seems like every week someone starts a new cookie-cutter wannabe megachurch. If they make it, they're going to make it big. They want to be at the top of their own little kingdom some day. Nice work if you can get it. Right now, I think there are more churches than people to attend them. Too much competition at the low rungs of the ladder.
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