Sen. John McCain has burst into the national conversation about Barack Obama's big night with a stunning choice for vice president, bypassing conventional picks such as Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty to tap Alaska's 44-year-old first-term governor and former beauty queen, Sarah Palin.
McCain announced his choice at a rally in Dayton, Ohio.
"I have found someone with an outstanding reputation for standing up to special interests and entrenched bureaucracy, someone who has fought corruption and the failed policies of the past ... someone with executive experience who has shown great tenacity," McCain said of Palin....
As Obama's previous 'church' allowed keeping Islamic Faith to full members: [URL=http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm]]]`many Muslim members in our church'[/URL] B.O. "[URL=http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971/page/2]]]was raised in Muslim culture [/URL] " &went to a RCC school that taught him Islam/Koran And he campaigned for someone who [URL=http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080524133234AAc95vN]]]supports SHARIA[/URL] [URL=http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin]]]and Obama prays "with 1st class accent"[/URL] And BO says the sound of Moslem prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on earth" scribed by Nicholas D. Kristof & cited later at [URL=http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/barack-obama/2007/03/10/]]]Muslim Obama roots[/URL][/QUOTE]Engineer:
How long will you continue to be fascinated with Barack Obama by telling lies that have been refuted on more than one occasion that he is muslim?
Please, stop the nonsense and move on! It is amazing that a man can look you straight in the eye and tell the world that he is a "Christian" and still, people want to call him a liar. I don't get it.
Alan H wrote: Sarah Palin is also an avowed feminist and a member of a feminist organization. But to some it is not contrary for her to hold that office? Come on folks! She is a daughter of Eve, who was the first to usurp her husbands authority and fed him that first poisonous meal. But it's like those who are captivated by Obama's mystique; character really doesn't matter in either case... The "unprincipled voters" worry me more than the "unqualified politicians," and I am speaking of both Sarah Palin and Barak Obama. Preference or Principle; what will it be??? May God have mercy on us!
I think you meant Proverbs 31.
Eve fed Adam poison? He ate of it innocently, I suppose. It was she who was deceived, remember? Adam was the usurper, by disobeying, thus usurping God's authority. Adam wanted to eat the poisonous meal. Didn't personal responsibility even exist back then?
be biblical wrote: I find it interesting that the majority of people who are upset about the biblical standard for women (Titus 2; Ps. 31, and I Tim. 5) seem to be women. Then Sandie spouts off about the Bible saying nothing against it! Read your Bible!! God placed men and women into certain roles BEFORE the Fall! Eve was Adam's "helpmeet". He was the head in every sense of the word! This does not mean superiority in person, it means order based on God's design, whether it be the church, the home, or government!!
Sarah Palin is also an avowed feminist and a member of a feminist organization. But to some it is not contrary for her to hold that office? Come on folks! She is a daughter of Eve, who was the first to usurp her husbands authority and fed him that first poisonous meal. But it's like those who are captivated by Obama's mystique; character really doesn't matter in either case...
The "unprincipled voters" worry me more than the "unqualified politicians," and I am speaking of both Sarah Palin and Barak Obama. Preference or Principle; what will it be??? May God have mercy on us!
Sandie wrote: Psalm 31 describes a working mother who is blessed by God, not condemned.
I find it interesting that the majority of people who are upset about the biblical standard for women (Titus 2; Ps. 31, and I Tim. 5) seem to be women. Then Sandie spouts off about the Bible saying nothing against it! Read your Bible!! God placed men and women into certain roles BEFORE the Fall! Eve was Adam's "helpmeet". He was the head in every sense of the word! This does not mean superiority in person, it means order based on God's design, whether it be the church, the home, or government!!
Mike wrote: While your bias seems to suggest one cannot be pentecostal and Christian.
No more than one could claim to be a member and adherent of the Church of Rome and still profess to know Christ. In that they both profess works and signs as the basis of your salvation or standing before God, they are both false gospels.
A believer wrote: Engineer: What is keeping you from exposing the same thing truths or untruths about Sarah Palin and her pentacostal affiliation? I guess if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it must be? I question whether a person who is an avowed pentacostalist is someone who is true to the biblical truths of the Bible. Will she be receiving instruction from the Almighty via tongues or will it be some other equally deceptive sign and wonder. Again, your bias is keeping you from being objective.
While your bias seems to suggest one cannot be pentecostal and Christian.
Engineer: What is keeping you from exposing the same thing truths or untruths about Sarah Palin and her pentacostal affiliation? I guess if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it must be?
I question whether a person who is an avowed pentacostalist is someone who is true to the biblical truths of the Bible.
Will she be receiving instruction from the Almighty via tongues or will it be some other equally deceptive sign and wonder.
Again, your bias is keeping you from being objective.
rogerant, you didn't answer my yes/no question: Was it appropriate for WHI to chat up an avowed RC on an allegedly Reformed site?
So you don't trust Robbins' testimony. Fine then, see for yourself at [URL=http://www.whitehorseinn.org/2007_programs.htm]]]WHI 2007 Programs[/URL] : they supply *no* caveats, & describe her Catholic faith as "Christian" & even provide a link to one of her books, which ought to horrify anyone claiming to identify with the Reformers. No confession of error or bad judgment either, though this is certainly not unique to your WCF heroes. In my experience over many churches, I have only ever heard one pastor make a public admission of error.
Neil wrote: Please detail how Robbins misrepresented or misquoted Horton. Where was the lack of "due diligence?" I know Horton isn't always mistaken, but he still ought to be held to account for any errors in judgment, esp. given his position as a seminary prof and a broadcaster.
The problem Neil is that Robbins does not quote Horton anywhere. He comments on Rosenthals answers to questions that he doesn't actually ask Rosenthal. Why doesn't Robbins deal directly with Horton.
And your man Robbins not only condemns Horton, he condemns other respected theologians like R.C. Sproul in the ame indirect manner.
"The basic theological and philosophical problem with organizations such as The White Horse Inn, Modern Reformation magazine, Westminster Seminary, Ligonier Ministries, Table Talk magazine, Stand to Reason radio, Summit Ministries, and Coral Ridge Ministries is not simply their failure, but their refusal to be captive to the Word of God. The “Reverend Doctors” think they are smarter – or at least more widely read – than the Holy Spirit himself, and so they promote the wisdom of men, not the wisdom of Christ" Quote John W. Robbins
This man is an island unto himself. We are warned to stay away some such as this.
Obama's muslim connections are clear to anyone-[URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/print.php?&ArticleID=3887]]]Obama's being born and raised a Moslem[/URL] REGARDLES of the cover up of his Moslem birth-such as [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25808]]]Obama's Fake Birth Certificate[/URL] & updated 8/8/8 : [URL=http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71763]]] Obama's birth facts unknown[/URL] As Obama's previous 'church' allowed keeping Islamic Faith to full members: [URL=http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm]]]`many Muslim members in our church'[/URL] B.O. "[URL=http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971/page/2]]]was raised in Muslim culture [/URL] " &went to a RCC school that taught him Islam/Koran And he campaigned for someone who [URL=http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080524133234AAc95vN]]]supports SHARIA[/URL] [URL=http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin]]]and Obama prays "with 1st class accent"[/URL] And BO says the sound of Moslem prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on earth" scribed by Nicholas D. Kristof & cited later at [URL=http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/barack-obama/2007/03/10/]]]Muslim Obama roots[/URL]
A believer wrote: Sandie, please do a better job of getting the facts straight. Obama is no more of a muslim than either McCain or Palin, neighter of which appear to be true biblical believers. It seems that many people will under no circumstances not vote for him are using that as a rationale to support their decision to not vote for him. By the way, I'm an independent voter and Christian who will not vote for either of the presidential tickets. I'm intelligent enough to recognize that both parties are flawed when it comes to doing God's will.
I'm an independent voter, too. Is there any other kind?
Sandie, please do a better job of getting the facts straight. Obama is no more of a muslim than either McCain or Palin, neighter of which appear to be true biblical believers.
It seems that many people will under no circumstances not vote for him are using that as a rationale to support their decision to not vote for him.
By the way, I'm an independent voter and Christian who will not vote for either of the presidential tickets. I'm intelligent enough to recognize that both parties are flawed when it comes to doing God's will.
Sandie wrote: I am voting for Gov. Sarah Palin. I think she is awesome. Why is it that some "Christians" know little about God's way, the Bible and His Kingdom. Sarah Palin is not usurping spiritual authority over any man. She's not trying to be a Pastor. She is running for VP of the U.S. It's amazing that "Christian" men will stand by and let this country be taken over by a muslim, bent on disarming this country and destroying it. The traditions of men ... Psalm 31 describes a working mother who is blessed by God, not condemned.
You are correct that there is nothing in the Bible that prohibits women from serving in leadership positions in government. But some of the Fundamentalist Protestant men on here have a screw loose if they think that the Bible prohibits women from serving in leadership positions in government.
PALIN asked about this job [URL=http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2073071/revolution-you-can-believe-in.thtml]]]Obama the Community Organizer-taught by Lucifer admirer Saul Alinsky-his creed was set out in his book ‘Rules for Radicals’ dedicated to Lucifer..the ‘first radical’. [/URL]
The seditious role of the community organiser was developed by an extreme left intellectual called Saul Alinsky. He was a radical Chicago activist who, by the time he died in 1972, had had a profound influence on the highest levels of the Democratic party. Alinsky was a ‘transformational Marxist’ in the mould of Antonio Gramsci, who promoted the strategy of a ‘long march through the institutions’ by capturing the culture and turning it inside out as the most effective means of overturning western society. In similar vein, Alinsky condemned the New Left for alienating the general public by its demonstrations and outlandish appearance. The revolution had to be carried out through stealth and deception. Its proponents had to cultivate an image of centrism and pragmatism. A master of infiltration, Alinsky wooed Chicago mobsters and Wall Street financiers alike. And successive Democratic politicians fell under his spell. Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means.
So you approve of erudite Roman Catholics (and writers of occult fiction at that) getting friendly interviews from Reformed scholars? Would Calvin or Luther have done that?
Please detail how Robbins misrepresented or misquoted Horton. Where was the lack of "due diligence?"
I know Horton isn't always mistaken, but he still ought to be held to account for any errors in judgment, esp. given his position as a seminary prof and a broadcaster. It is lack of this that has destroyed churches & denominations. To whom much is given, much is required.
Neil wrote: Very uncharitable, and begs the question of whether orgs like WHI or WCF are upholding the Reformation, or are actually undermining it. You sound almost hurt that anyone would find fault, so I now have no confidence that further remonstrance would help.
Have YOU listened to the program more than once, or are you taking another persons misguided and dishonest take. Mr Robbins has not done his due diligence here. I recommend that you read one of Mr. Horton's books or listen to a few of his shows.
I didn't realize that Christians would exercise the same type of due diligence that the mainstream media does.
And why are Christians so quick to demonize or judge others work because they don't agree with their doctrine.
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