Washington Post: Al Mohler Comments on Pope's Visit
Pope Benedict XVI’s first visit to America as Pope will not be his introduction to this country, but it will be the first opportunity for Americans to see this Pope up close.
Writing immediately after Benedict’s election, I wrote these words, referencing the Pope’s previous role in the Vatican as Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger:
Yet, there is no reason to believe that the election of Pope Benedict XVI will do anything to breach the divide between evangelicals and Roman Catholics on issues related to biblical authority, the Gospel, and a host of other essential theological questions. We hold no expectation that this pope holds views of justification and the Gospel that are any more harmonious with evangelical conviction than those held by his predecessors. Indeed, Ratzinger's theological brilliance may be deployed in ways that will cause evangelicals even greater frustration....
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"Pope Benedict XVI’s first visit to America as Pope will not be his introduction to this country, but it will be the first opportunity for Americans to see this Pope up close."
I think we should have shipped him right back to Italy and told him to stay and never come back.
What blasphemy to give ones self a title of "holy father" a name of God that is so reverent, it is only used once in scripture. He's wrong on both accounts-- he's not holy, and he's not father.
Albeit, there was in the "pope's" reply to Jefferson Davis:
"ILLUSTRIOUS AND HONORABLE PRESIDENT (Jefferson Davis),
salutation:
We have just received with all suitable welcome the persons sent by you to place in our hands your letter, dated 23d of September last. Not slight was the pleasure we experienced when we learned, from those persons and the letter, with what feelings of joy and gratitude you were animated, illustrious and honorable President, as soon as you were informed of our letters to our venerable brother John, Archbishop of New York, and John, Archbishop of New Orleans, dated the 18th of October of last year, and in which we have with all our strength excited and exhorted those venerable brothers that, in their episcopal piety and solicitude, they should endeavor, with the most ardent zeal, and in our name, to bring about the end of the fatal civil war which has broken out in those countries, in order that the American people may obtain peace and concord, and dwell charitably together. It is particularly agreeable to us to...Given at Rome, at St. Peter's, the 3d of December, 1863, of our Pontificate 18. (Signed).Plus IX."
"THIS LETTER OF THE POPE HAS ENTIRELY CHANGED THE NATURE AND GROUND OF THE WAR."--ABRAHAM LINCOLN !
Ah, AVA, from the same time period you could have add,
Abraham Lincoln wrote: But there is a thing which is very certain; it is, that if the American people could learn what I know of the fierce hatred of the generality of the priests of Rome against our institutions, our schools, our most sacred rights, and our so dearly bought liberties, they would drive them away, tomorrow, from among us, or would shoot them as traitors. […]
Maybe I'm a little slow but I am unclear why Overcome Evil is quoting me and they referencing the WTC towers. How about starting a new thread and keeping this one on topic.
"Overcome" said, "Steel Melts At Approx. 2800° F"
Irrelevant, since the steel beams only need to have been weakened by the fire's heat, not melted.
"Hydrocarbon Fires Burn at Approx. 1800° F Under Optimal Conditions. Office fires only burn at Approx. 900°F"
Fires do not necesssarily burn at the nominal burning temperature of their fuels, otherwise the ancients could never have smelted iron using wood-fired furnaces.
Lance Eccles wrote: Al Mohler's view is very clear and objective. He is very definitely on one side of the theological divide, and yet he can see things with the utmost clarity. I like him.
Kind of like you, huh Lance? You see things with the "utmost clarity". Only problem is "your utmost is his holiness" - the one of many heads -Ratzinger.
bro M wrote: Part II: Yet this article gives the impression that reformation in doctrine coming forth from Rome would change how Christians view Rome. NEVER for there is no change for the Mother of Harlots any more than there is for the father of lies. The Scriptures are clear that Mystery Babylon will never change her ways as the call is for God's people to come out from her, NOT to reform her or to look for reformation coming forth from her walls! .....lest more become deceived and fall prey to her charms and seductive lies.
FACT: Steel Melts At Approx. 2800° F
FACT: Hydrocarbon Fires Burn at Approx. 1800° F Under Optimal Conditions
Kerosene--Jet Fuel--is a hydrocarbon. Office fires only burn at Approx. 900°F If this is true then how could the massive core columns of the WTC been sliced off near their base like a hot knife through butter? How did the 911 Commission get around this and so many other questions? Easy! It just ignored them!
bro M wrote: Part II: Yet this article gives the impression that reformation in doctrine coming forth from Rome would change how Christians view Rome. NEVER for there is no change for the Mother of Harlots any more than there is for the father of lies. The Scriptures are clear that Mystery Babylon will never change her ways as the call is for God's people to come out from her, NOT to reform her or to look for reformation coming forth from her walls! For Rome cannot change her true colors any more than the Ethiopian can his skin, or the leopard his spots. And any changes perceived to come forth from her is nothing more than a cleaning of the outside of the cup so as to further deceive the masses. It is high time for evangelicals to be as bold, brilliant and incisive as Rome lest more become deceived and fall prey to her charms and seductive lies.
Part II: Yet this article gives the impression that reformation in doctrine coming forth from Rome would change how Christians view Rome. NEVER for there is no change for the Mother of Harlots any more than there is for the father of lies. The Scriptures are clear that Mystery Babylon will never change her ways as the call is for God's people to come out from her, NOT to reform her or to look for reformation coming forth from her walls! For Rome cannot change her true colors any more than the Ethiopian can his skin, or the leopard his spots. And any changes perceived to come forth from her is nothing more than a cleaning of the outside of the cup so as to further deceive the masses.
It is high time for evangelicals to be as bold, brilliant and incisive as Rome lest more become deceived and fall prey to her charms and seductive lies.
Part I: I cannot say I was well pleased with Mr. Mohler's article about the Pope. An article that will leave the uninformed reader of the horrors of the papacy with nary a pin prick. This being true even as Mr. Mohler correctly notes that the works of Ratzinger are bold, "brilliant" and "incisive."
Indeed they are for so the papacy has always been as bold as a roaring lion, as brilliant as a fox and as incisive as a surgeon. For Rome and the papacy are literally drunken with the blood of millions of butchered saints who suffered the most horrific and brutal deaths at her bloodied hands. She for whom it is written: "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus." (Rev 17:5-6)
Q: Did Al Mohler read the Letter to the Pope from Jefferson Davis?:
"RICHMOND, September 23, 1863.
VERY VENERABLE SOVEREIGN PONTIFF
"The letters which you have written to the clergy of New Orleans and New York have been communicated to me, and I have read with emotion the deep grief therein expressed for the ruin and devastation caused by the war which is now being waged by the United States against the States and people which have selected me as their President, and your orders to your clergy to exhort the people to peace and charity. I am deeply sensible of the Christian charity which has impelled you to this reiterated appeal to the clergy. It is for this reason that I feel it my duty to express personally, and in the name of the Confederate States, our gratitude for such sentiments of Christian good feeling and love, and to assure Your Holiness that the people, threatened even on their own hearths with the most cruel oppression and terrible carnage, is desirous now, as it has always been, to see the end of this impious war; that we have ever addressed prayers to Heaven for that issue which Your Holiness now desires; that we desire none of our enemy's possessions, but that we fight merely to resist the devastation of our country and the shedding of our best blood,..."
"The divide between evangelical Christians and the Roman Catholic Church remains – as this Pope well understands."
Well it was God who ordained the Reformation and created this divide between the Papal Antichrist and the Followers of Christ. So the only way for the catholics to bridge the gap is if the Lord saves them.
There are churches who are trying to harp back to old Roman dogmas, like the arminians and their salvation by works. And of course the Liberals will accept any old thing in religion as long as it isn't the Bible. If you worship a telegraph pole they will join with you.
Dr. Alan Cairns | 8/3/2009
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