I can truly sympathise with John and his brother, and perhaps BM and JN, and who ever else may be in bondage to the Confessions and writings of men. I was there for many years, never at rest, until by Grace, I saw that Christ is All. But that came from Scripture, not from men.
John 8:31... If ye continue in MY WORD, then are ye my disciples indeed.... John 15:10...If ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, ye SHALL abide in my love....
Christ and his Word truly are supreme and sufficient, and bring sweet rest to the soul. Looking to, and relying on men, only creates factions and divisions as it did in Corinth - not to mention the risk of much error. I believe too that the Reformed trail is still a continuation of Roman Catholicism in parts, which is why many troubles ensue. The one-man and hierarchical system which is alien and opposed to NT teaching and example, has distressed and ruined many lives: (this I speak from experience). If we keep busy obeying Christ and his Law, many problems will simply evaporate. Yes we learn from one another, of course, but we stake our confession, our confidence and our claims on Christ alone. After all, at the Judgement, we will each need our own personal confession.
With heartfelt thanks to God, and with best wishes and pra for all.
Christopher 000. Thank you. You have at last brought us to the feet of Christ. This is the New Covenant which he has purchased with his blood, that we may live and walk in it. I myself laboured under the Old Covenant for years according to the Reformed Theology of the Law, but thank God through the faithful preaching of his Word, my spiritual eyes were opened to behold Christ an all he has accomplished for us. Gone are my frustrations anger argumentation etc. It's a whole new way to live - in Christ and he by his Spirit in me. If there are any still labouring like I did, give it up!... yield to Christ and his 'better' !aw, as brother Chris has here highlighted - then the strivings and wrangling will cease and we will sweetly all agree to do all we can to build one another up in our most Holy Faith in a manner that expresses the Holy Gospel we profess.
I regret that this forum which should present opportunity for edification one of another is so terribly abused. I hoped it would be to all our profit in our growth up into Christ our Head, but it seems that some wish to prove themselves right by means of ridicule and name-calling and often times false accusations and slander.
The first and great commandment of the New Covenant ought to be remembered - and practised.
James Thomas, I think we were making much the same point, but it seems we're being shot down for saying that it's possible to read and understand the Scripture without the wisdom of the wise. I'm glad you also like to be a Berean. When I became one I made some horrific discoveries, but Christ has become more and more precious through it all. After all the whole point of studying the Scripture is to find Him.
Regarding the understanding of the Covenants of Holy Scripture, could I put in two mites and say that it really is very simple if we take Scripture as we find it.
There are two - Old and New. We can see the various ways in which God established covenant with his people in the Old Testament. Then Christ came, fulfilling the types, shadows and legal requirements and rendering the Old Covenant entirely fulfilled and obsolete - as we read in Hebrews - and by his life and blood he bought, and brought in the New,
If this is all so deeply theological, then folks like me don't have a chance of rejoicing in what Christ has done for us in fulfilling the Old and bringing in the New. It is clear that the advent of our Saviour is the most momentous event in all of history and He has ushered in a new spiritual Kingdom - with the New Covenant made betwixt the Godhead and dispensed to us by Grace. This is radically and utterly different from the Old.
I personally struggled for years with the 1689 documents etc... that John referred to, and made very little headway until I came back to the simplicity of Scripture.
Let us honour the work and life-blood shed by William Tyndale (-and others) who wanted the ploughboy to read as well as the learned, and stay with the simplicity of Sc
Real Bible Study! Thank you for getting straight into Scripture here - no wasted time or wasted words on man's thoughts in this short study. I am looking forward to the rest of this series.
Too many sermons seem to be carefully and cleverly crafted to bolster the speaker's own particular, or his denomination's opinions, and far too few preachers are prepared to simply examine and teach the Scripture unbiasedly. The end result of preaching should be that God's word is brought forth, but much that takes place amongst the churches revolves around the names of men, their own systems of belief and practice, and all of this steers the sheep away from the headship of Christ in His Church, and towards
reliance on a man or a system, structure, or hierarchy; - whatever is directly attributed to men, is subtracted from God!
Great Sermon! The worship of women continues unabated in today's modern church, even in the so-called, conservative Reformed Church. It complies with political correctness, and pursuit of money rather than a holy God, and his word. These practices are disrespectful of both men and women, because it denies the truth of the authority of God's word. Until feminism is soundly repudiated by faithful preachers, it will continue to erode and deny the entire jurisdiction of the church by denying the indispensable role of logic in theology by replacing it with feelings, experiences, and emotions.
SteveR wrote: Luke 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us
Ok Steve. But clearly you cannot identify idolatry and its abominable and sinful witness to the Christian.
Are you Christian???
Keep on supporting the evil unBiblical and idolatrous organisation if you will. But don't forget that is the road to hell not a Christian journey. God proved that in HIS Reformation in the 16th century.
I'm sorry you can't see the truth.
"1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 2Peter 2."
For centuries the true Christian has perceived these warnings apply to the Roman Catholic fallacy.
SteveR wrote: Agree Mike, RCC has error. But so do just about all other churches. If you werent moved to abhor that cross dangling from the boys neck, I will guess your church as quite a bit of idolatry going on too. Ive seen conservative churches with Christmas trees next to the pulpit as they call Catholics idolatrous. Lutherans ...
Steve. Just in case you haven't seen the light on this point. It is not about the denomination with the least amount of errors. - Whereas it is about the elect of God who do not - do not - do idolatry and blasphemy which the historic range and extent of the RCC has demonstrated itself to be culpable and unBiblical of.
You have been literally supporting unBiblical idolatry and blasphemy as well as heresy in your continued support of the RCC. A Christian cannot do that!!
As Jesus has stated.... "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad." Matt 12:30.
William Eugene Grimes wrote: Jim Jefferson Davis attended Transylvania College which is affiliated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). It is not a Roman Catholic institution. Jefferson Davis belonged to the Episcopal church. He walked to St. John's Episcopal Church while living in Montgomery. President Davis's pastor in Richmond, Dr.Minnigerode wrote this: "He[Davis] never failed to be there unless he was sick or away from town." And if the Pope appealing to the Federal government for President Davis's release makes him an "almost Catholic" I pray that if you ever get thrown in jail unjustly, that Pope Benedict will appeal for your release. Then the same could be said of you. You need to go back and do your homework on President Davis. See if you can find out who Jim Limber was.
BytheBook wrote: The question that was asked and addressed by Jesus was about being saved. The advice He provides is in relation to this side of judgment day.
The advise to enter to the strait gate was given on this side of judgement day because on that side of the judgement day people cannot enter in. The passage moves from advise to what happens for those who do not follow this advise.
BytheBook wrote: Is it that God does not even call them. Why are they "not able" - IF they seek?
Your quote apparently disagrees with the Book. You use these verses without any real understanding.
The passage is talking about what happens at judgement day. At judgement day, those that didn't strive to enter the strait gate in their earthly life cannot enter the door come judgement day. God will tell those people to depart to Hell.
Man's ability to seek God in this life is proven by the word "Strive". It is a command assuming it can be done.
The words "are called" (italics) were added to 1 Cor 1:26. They were not called to preach b/c they were unsaved.
Luke 13:23-27 24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Rom 1:8: He is talking about the Roman world. His readers knew his context. 1 John 2:2's context is ...
1Jn 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins (the sins of the saved): and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world (refers to the lost in general for we the elect are made to be not of this world).
1 John 5:19: He is telling us that we do not lie in wickedness; everyone else does. We are not of this world, so we do not fit in with the whole world (those of faith do not lie in wickedness).
If you are apart of the ungodly (which the whole world is), Christ died for you. "For when we were yet without strength, in due time CHRIST DIED FOR THE UNGODLY." (Rom 5:6)
JD, you are exactly right. Calvinists have no desire to prove the truth. They are caught up in their own man made system.
Observation Post claims, "So 1 John 2:2 "whole world" (kosmos) contradicts the passages I quoted?" Sheer nonsense. God is reconciling the world (evey man) to himself. Some resist God's advances (including his own).
Rom 4:13: The promise that one day Abraham and his seed (descendents) would inherit the entire world was made of effect because their faith. Among the Hebrew seed, there would arise a Messiah could claim ownership over it all. As spiritual descenants of Abraham, we will rule and reign with Jesus over the whole world (Rev 5:10).
You need help. You said, "If rejection of the offer of salvation is a sin, and Jesus died for all the sins of all men, why is this sin not paid for?" His sin is not paid for because he did not receive it. You you reject a gift, you don't have it. Your past "sin" of rejection will be paid for only if you stop rejecting.
Observation Post, do you really think those verses proved Limited Atonement? If you think so, you are in bad shape.
Jesus died for the sheep just as He died for those who are not the sheep.
Eph 5:25 is a long shot. Jesus gave himself for the church...who would argue that? He also gave his life for those not in the church.
1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
To further prove Semi-Pelagianism... Psalms 53:3 â€śEvery one of them is GONE back: they are altogether BECOME filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.â€ť â€śThey are all GONE aside, they are all together BECOME filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.â€ť [Psalms 14:3]
Everyone was once a sheep. Sin, which age of accountability reckons, mutated man. Man went astray. 1 Peter 2:25 â€śFor ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.â€ť
1. Age of Accountability Isaiah 7:16 reveals that there is a time when children know to "refuse the evil, and choose the good.â€ť â€śFor before the children shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.â€ť [Isaiah 7:16] If man is never aware of good and evil, he is not a sinner. "Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth." [John 9:41] "If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin." [John 15:22]
One's guilt for sin is proportional to their knowledge. James 4:17 says, "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." An infant, yet to be conscious of the moral law which God writes in every heart [Rom 2:14-15], is not guilty of the law. Rom 4:15 states "...For where no law is, there is no transgression."
2. The wicked are estranged (go astray) from the womb. God did create man upright. Man goes astray on his own accord. Ecc 7:29 "Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions."
3. "In sin did my mother conceive me." Sins of the mother. "In anger my father beat me" Whose sins?
Semi-Pelagianism is irrational to an irrational man.
1. Made needs life again (be born again) because he died when he sinned at the age accountability. 2. I thought you understood 1 Cor. 2:14. I guess not. Here is what it means. Man cannot of himself receive the things of the spirit, He needs the Holy Spirit first. Even you need the Holy Ghost to receive the things of the Spirit. That is why God sent the comforter down (to teach and to lead us to truth so that we know to receive the things of the Spirit). 3. Hell was created for the Devils and his angels. Its existence has nothing to do with what man does. Men are in Hell because they rejected the free gift of salvation (which is in effect rejecting Jesus). This free gift to all can only be made possible if Christ died for all.
Romans 5:18 "Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."