I suspect Trump at times may have played into the hands of Christians for his own purposes.

God allows people to have a human leader when the nations refuse to follow him. This we see in the book of Judges.

Never forget though that just because your president claims to follow God, it doesn't mean he actually is. It's also easy to claim God's blessing in a position of power.

bible student wrote:
persecuted countries dont gave people sueingvtheir govs because they will just get killed, so they choose to go illegal and underground. Which I also believe we christians should do. Do you think the Chinese are saying, “ oh the real Bible is illegal, ok lets read the fake communist version because we need to obey our leaders”? nope, well, the 3 self churches do

Even if it were a form of persecution which is where I feel they're going with it... How many persecuted countries sue their government? I think wisdom needs to be applied here as this virus is causing damage and until the USA can get it under control I'd have thought minimising contact would be a smart thing. It's harder but not impossible to have fellowship in smaller groups or over a phone call... Think about how those in persecution handle it. This I think is only temporary.

When looking at constitutional rights, I find it interesting how people complain about it being violated (in an extreme situation). Consider God may be asking something of us that is a sacrifice compared to what we're used to in the western world.

John for JESUS wrote:
Michael H...
Not gossip, but from what he actually said. Think about it too, there wouldn't have been a payout to make her go away if he didn't do anything.
https://pulpitandpen.org/2018/02/15/adulterous-affair-ravi-zacharias-cover/?fb_comment_id=2296461880371635_2656343654383454

Jim Lincoln wrote:

However, most of your posts are rarely conversation about a topic and are just url dumps for people to read. Sometimes these posts are more divisive and inflammatory than the topic demands.

If someone disagrees with an article then discussion is fair enough, but to make a vague comment with an attached url, like you do, doesn't bare much conversation.

Most times I've learnt to just ignore posts that do that because it often feels like one is not actually interested in discussing a topic but is more interested in promoting an opinion piece they've read somewhere.

John for JESUS wrote:
I didn't have to witness it. I am a hometown boy that passes his church all of the time. Even had him at my church as a guest speaker and heard about it in the local news and read Ravi's own testimony of the facts.

From what I've seen about the issue is that it was in fact the woman who was the offender and it was his own ignorance that got him into that situation. If that's the case, while unfortunate, if he immediately dealt with it by trying his best to cut off conversation, then he hasn't been unfaithful to his wife and sinned.

John for JESUS wrote:
She would send nude photos of herself to him and Ravi would open up the emails to look at them. He threatened suicide when she threatened to reveal their relationship. So, church funds went towards making her go away. He obviously did something or there wouldn't have been a pay off. Then because it was settled out of court, he could dodge questions about it by saying he couldn't talk about it legally. He should have stepped down.

John for JESUS wrote:
Pastors should be held to a higher standard. He knew he wasn't a doctor and he also refused to step down after cheating on his wife.

From that article and related articles we see;
Ravi used the term Dr in error due to misunderstanding and some women decided to be evil and make up a sexual assault claim for extortion.

Vaccinations? What the? How is that related?

I never said the scripture was rubbish. I don't believe any scripture is rubbish.

As much as I desire a wife, ministry comes first.

I understand many are not believers, many are. I use Christian Connection and I'm very selective about my criteria.