There is plenty more scripture but we can’t fit them all in one message. If you aren’t getting this stuff from us, it’s because the bible says that an unsaved person can’t understand the Word of GOD.

Luk 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

I believe GOD has shown me where I should be in life and that He is still leading me threw this walk. I also believe I'm in His will. I have been talking to GOD a lot about our debate, and I think He is telling me that your a brother in Christ. I really like debating, but I think GOD want's me to back off. This has nothing to do with not having more to debate, I just think He's telling me to love a little more and debate a little less. I think about this so much that I've been praying for you and your family, which I don't even know but GOD does. The one thing I like about this is that it makes you know what you believe and why. Also if there is something you don't know it makes you study it. I hope you understand why I'm backing down, and don't think it's because I wanted to, LOL. I really hope to talk with you in the near future about things concerning the bible. I look at you now as my brother in Christ. GODS just been telling me that we aren't getting any where with this debate, and that if we would talk about other things (iron sharpeneth iron) maybe we could learn some things and grow. If you don't ever that's cool, I'll still pray for you. My e-mail is always available. BYE for now, James

Only one version of the creed doesn't say catholic church and that was the Lutheran form. I know without a doubt that the bible has the power to save, GOD's perfect Word, not a creed. It's true, I'm not denying that. But you seem to put to much faith in something that outlines the gospel, But isn't the breathed Word of GOD. Even catholic churches that don't believe the full Word of GOD use this creed, Just because they say they believe the creed don't mean nothing(I did). I can go to a crack house and find people that will say they believe, they might even be able to rehearse the creed. Read these verses Prov.16:25 1Jn.4:1,5:13
Mat.7:20-23

"A man" is used plural, your right there. But your not when you think it means in the same church. It’s used plural for the reason that more then one man is called in the office of a bishop to his own church, not the same church as another. Notice this verse in the same chapter: 1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Man is also used plural, but in his own house not another man’s. So do you think the word of GOD is telling you that you should have a board, or more then one man running your house. Also Read all of Heb. 5. I had more, but you can only fit so much. I have to wait until someone else enters a comment.

1Ti 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
1Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Why would you take statements of mine out of context, kind of like these misled religious groups out there in this world tend to take bible verses out of context and run with them. Like right after the first statement you took, it says (that is run by GOD.) Also I would like to see any bible verses that back up or support a board running the church. The board does give opinions, but the man of GOD ( a term lost in this new age form of Christianity) is who goes to GOD threw prayer (like Moses, Joshua, David and all of the prophets did) and searches scripture to find GOD's will in every matter. People these days don't like anything they can't explain or control. My church is led by the Holy Spirit which leads my Pastor.