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Told you!

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guys i appreciate your time. MS please don't ban me. I will leave and not post anymore. thank you .

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To lurker, ms, unprofitable servant and d mccausland,
I am not lying to you. I am not posting under other names after posting as Jaycobee. As I said from the start, I was considering converting to the RCC and still am. I came here asking for solid reasons for the case against RCC. So far I don't find any responses convincing. Much of what everyone has posted had been either out of context, misrepresented statements or just name-calling lacking any real substance. I want truth. Nobody as yet has offered a historical chain of Protestantism from the first century onward from the church father's writings. I have gotten a book name to read, and while waiting for the book, online research suggests McCarthy's scholarship is not meaty. Frankly I don't see any intellectually meaty arguments from this board, just misunderstandings. I have become open to the RCC partly due to their in depth detailed and logical arguments. Christianity is true also because logic is The word of God too. Now after offering rebuttals to misunderstandings I am being threatened with expulsion? Doesn't sound fair.

News Item7/31/18 6:24 PM
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James Thomas wrote:
Did you know at that time they only had a Latin Vulgate which they had corrupted themselves over time to fit their traditions?
James, with all respect and humility as can appear on digital text, I am no expert in Bible translations, but I have seen references to Bibles in languages besides latin during the medieval perios. Can you please give examples of the textual corruptions in the vulgate? I'm not implying it is perfect, but I don't know what you are inferring. I don't see why it's a big deal that the Pope calls Jesus the light of the nations. can u elaborate?
MS, you quoted paragraph 79 of Mediator Dei 190. That paragraph calls the sacrifice commemorative (memorial)Notice the reference in your quote that the document makes to Mal 1:11 ..."where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations," says the LORD Almighty." What is the offering? They would say it is Jesus, presenting Himself to the Father as Hebrews 16:19-20 says- [Jesus has]become a high priest for ever...Hebrews 9:24-now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf..“offering,” (minchah(offering) in Hebrew, is a technical Old Testament term for unbloody sacrifice

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Christopher000 wrote:
Wrong Jacobee. The Mass is a "literal, and continual" re-sacrifice of Christ because His once and for all sacrifice was not sufficient to cover all future sin.
They don't say it is a re-sacrifice. paragraph 1329 of CCC The memorial of the Lord's Passion and Resurrection.
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The Holy Sacrifice, because it makes present the one sacrifice of Christ the Savior and includes the Church's offering. The terms holy sacrifice of the Mass, "sacrifice of praise," spiritual sacrifice, pure and holy sacrifice are also used,150 since it completes and surpasses all the sacrifices of the Old Covenant.
1353 In the institution narrative, the power of the words and the action of Christ, and the power of the Holy Spirit, make sacramentally present under the species of bread and wine Christ's body and blood, his sacrifice offered on the cross once for all.
1393 Holy Communion separates us from sin. The body of Christ we receive in Holy Communion is "given up for us," and the blood we drink "shed for the many for the forgiveness of sins." For this reason the Eucharist cannot unite us to Christ without at the same time cleansing us from past sins and preserving us from future sins:
1395 the Eucharist preserves us from future mortal sins.

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Christopher000 wrote:
Sounds like the precise reason for the Roman Mass....Christs sacrifice wasn't sufficient to cover all sin, and future sin of man.
That's not what they teach. "613 Christ's death is both the Paschal sacrifice that accomplishes the definitive redemption of men, through "the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world",439 and the sacrifice of the New Covenant, which restores man to communion with God by reconciling him to God through the "blood of the covenant, which was poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins".440

614 This sacrifice of Christ is unique; it completes and surpasses all other sacrifices.441 First, it is a gift from God the Father himself, for the Father handed his Son over to sinners in order to reconcile us with himself. At the same time it is the offering of the Son of God made man, who in freedom and love offered his life to his Father through the Holy Spirit in reparation for our disobedience.442 617 The Council of Trent emphasizes the unique character of Christ's sacrifice as "the source of eternal salvation"449 and teaches that "his most holy Passion on the wood of the cross merited justification for us."450 And the Church venerates his cross as she sings: "Hail, O Cross, our only hope."451


News Item7/31/18 6:26 AM
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Of course it would come from the 9th circuit

News Item7/31/18 6:24 AM
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Hamilton has proposed a middle ground , third option in the umc where local churches can decide for themselves whether to support so called same sex marriage. The umc general assembly meets next year to decide on their stance. It looks like most of the United States bishops are in favor of allowing same sex marriage. But fortunately the Asian and African and South American members will have the votes necessary to preserve the current language of the book of discipline and maintain homosexuality's sinfulness. Please pray for the umc.

News Item7/30/18 6:57 PM
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MS wrote:
Jaycobee,
I will assume in Christian charity that you are truly seeking answers.
So I am recommending an excellent book by James G. McCarthy- The Gospel According to Rome.
It provides a clear comparison of the Scriptures and RC traditions and teaching.
Hope you will avail yourself of this excellent resource.
Yes, this is the sort of thing I have been looking for. Thank you.

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James Thomas wrote:
As far as the answer to why.....
I'll leave that between you and the Lord.
FYI...
The RC machine will not have not ever had nor will ever be in the truth that is in the Word of God.
I really would appreciate your answer to why you asked that question. I don't see the point you are making.

JT, this is off the thread topic, but I was never immersed in the history of church doctrine across the centuries until recently. Now after engaging with early Christian writings from Fathers and the Didache, Shepherd of Hermas, etc, I am seeing a long history of some of the Catholic dogmas that you, MS, Adriel and all disagree with. Having said all that, does anyone here think that continuity in doctrine in the Christian church through the centuries counts for anything in this discussion? It would be great, for example to see an early church father say, "Hey! Peter isn't a pope because petros means big rock and Petras means little rock!" or, "All those Christians praying for dead family member are wrong..". I'm not trying to be antagonist or a troll. Has anyone looked into Church history in this respect?


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James Thomas wrote:
Well Jaycobee,
Who is speaking in Acts 13:46,47?
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Sister MS, no worries. May the Lord continue to bless you and yours!
JT, Paul and Barnabas. Why?

News Item7/30/18 11:26 AM
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Christopher000, thank you for the link I give you my word I will read it all and I am sorry to have pulled you away from your overdue email. I have head RCC apologists say only when the pope speaks in matters of faith and morals in a unique way (I can't think of the manner, I know it's ex cathedra but they define when that is) is he infallible. So for example I've been seeing apt of Catholics wishing Francis to clarify his words in a document on communion for the civilly divorced because they say what he wrote in a doc called amoris laetitia is ambiguous and could go against church teaching. How do you post repeatedly without someone else posting after you?

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Christopher000 wrote:
every Pope has made it clear that Muslims are our brothers and sisters, saved, and Heavenbound. They teach that Muslims, although they deny that Jesus is God, they consider him a prophet, venerate Mary, and honor Abraham, qualifying them as Christian brothers and sisters.
Christopher, this is a stumbling block for me as I look into to the Catholic faith for sure. I was sold on the idea that the god of the Muslims is totally different than our God. After listening to Catholics and my little research into this area (sounds like you have done more) it didn't seem to me like they are qualifying Muslims as Christian brothers and sisters. Rather it sounds to me like Catholics are saying, "yes there is only one God, and Muslims are correct that there is one God, but they are wrong about God's revelation and His attributes" in much the same way that you and a sister in Christ may be in total agreement that Jesus is Lord but may be in disgreement about many doctrine. Its not a good analogy but I hope you understand. I would like to see your quotes you have from every Pope since '64 up.

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James Thomas wrote:
Lumen Gentium is Latin for Light of the Nations.
It's referencing Jesus. This is the first sentence in the document Lumen Gentium: "Christ is the Light of nations."
From paragraph 14:"Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation." ..If they [members] fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)Paragraph 16:" hose also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.(19*) Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel." I just finished listening to [URL=https://www.amazon.com/Reasons-Believe-Understand-Explain-Catholic/dp/B00485V77I]]]Scott Hahn's Reasons to Believe[/URL] I would encourage everyone to read/hea

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MS wrote:
Anyone else hear the hsss. of the serpent?
MS, what are your thoughts about Thomas Müntzer?

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Christopher000 wrote:
In this way, when we pray ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PATHS COMBINE AND FORM ONE SINGLE PATH.”
I believe his idea behind those statements are found in Romans 1 + 2. Gentiles who don't have the Law (mosaic) are a law to themselves when they do by nature the things that God requires. However it's not a wide open road to heaven. Lumen Gentium 16 addresses this too. Salvation outside the church: CCC First, the Church is catholic because Christ is present in her. "Where there is Christ Jesus, there is the Catholic Church."307 In her subsists the fullness of Christ's body united with its head; this implies that she receives from him "the fullness of the means of salvation"308 which he has willed: correct and complete confession of faith, full sacramental life, and ordained ministry in apostolic succession. The Church was, in this fundamental sense, catholic on the day of Pentecost309 and will always be so until the day of the Parousia.824 United with Christ, the Church is sanctified by him; through him and with him she becomes sanctifying. "All the activities of the Church are directed, as toward their end, to the sanctification of men in Christ and the glorification of God."292 It is in the Church that "the fullness of the means of sa

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Frank wrote:
The RCC is a cult, pure and simple. Shame on anyone who belongs to it or who promotes it.
Frank and all: Here is a critique of the RCC from Christian Research Institute regarding whether they are a cult. Ultimately it's not a big deal to me what you call them, but since you used a critique of the RCC in your first few pages of your meditation I want to share this; [URL=http://www.equip.org/article/is-catholicism-a-cult/]]]IS RCC a cult[/URL]

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Thank you Christopher. I don't think it's fair to condemn the entire system based on these crimes. After all abuse occurrs in Protestant denominations. I think of the parable of the sower with the Tares. The Parable of the Weeds

Mat 13:24 He put another parable before them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field,
Mat 13:25 but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and went away.
Mat 13:26 So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also.
Mat 13:27 And the servants of the master of the house came and said to him, 'Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?'
Mat 13:28 He said to them, 'An enemy has done this.' So the servants said to him, 'Then do you want us to go and gather them?'
Mat 13:29 But he said, 'No, lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn." We can't reason that the whole system is in on the secret until we see evidence. Further, I'm no expert on sex abuse history in general, but it seems to me l


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Amen

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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
In my opinion, the shroud is as meaningful as a piece of toast with the alleged image of Mary,
I'm sorry you feel that way, because you are dismissing a powerful piece of evidence for the Resurrection.
until the day when He was taken up, after He had by the Holy Spirit given orders to the apostles whom He had chosen. To these He also presented Himself alive, after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days, and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God. (Acts 1:2-3)
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all everywhere should repent, because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead." (Acts 17:30-31)Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good�(1 Thessalonians 5:19-21)
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)
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