My goodness. I just can't believe all I just read. These bureaucrats, politicians gone mad, and pedophiles, are way out of control, but the problem is that they're getting the support to do it all, and not nearly enough pushback. Liberals gone mad, and woe to them all for causing such great harm to the little ones they're confusing and defiling.
I think what you're saying is to love The Lord with all our heart and might, follow Him; doing our best to serve, be obediant, observe all of His ways, pray fervently for the lost, that He would make our path clear, guide us, teach us, and lead us to a proper understanding of all that He wants us to know; all that He wants to show us.
Everything will fall into its proper place when we are true seekers, with a heart bent on righteousness, and with open, pliable minds that crave understanding, as He would have us to understand, and as The Spirit chooses to reveal in His good time, and at His good pleasure.
B McCausland Wrote: "...the mantra of pride, the dismantling of texts to accommodate a fixed position, and the adhominem propaganda when arguments cannot be refuted."
Hi BM, I expounded on pride after Dr Tim brought it up, as a very obvious general statement, and nothing to do with the topic being discussed. I'm not sure what's bothering you about it, or was your comment speaking to anyone who holds to differing views; accusing the other side of being filled with pride?
As far as the dismantling of texts to accommodate a fixed position...I wasn't attempting to accommodate anything. Re-read what I said. I thought the analysis was interesting, but instead of any followup rebuttal, it's just called, dismantling?
Dr Tim Wrote: ...whose rampant pride is a stench."
We all suffer from the pride virus, and it's probably the most cunning of characteristics, because it has the ability to expose itself in the most subtle of ways that we often don't even recognize within ourselves. Sometimes it's, in your face, obviois, and other times, maybe even most times, it lurks around in the subtlties of our speech, reactions, responses, body language, and eyes. Pride is an ugly beast that spends its life doing all it can to avoid ever catching it's own reflection in a mirror. We're all carriers of the virus, but it's not always easy to come to terms with the fact that we're infected, so we fool ourselves into believing that we have an immunity gene, because we don't notice any symptoms within our own selves, even though others do, as they keep telling us to go and get checked out.
Pride exposes itself in so many ways, but we're often so busy trying to get everyone else to go and get checked out, and treated, that we're totally oblivious to the fact that we're showing the very same symptoms and infected ourselves.
I'm infected myself, but I never realized how badly until I recognized, and came to terms with it. Since then, I notice it in the most minor of things that I was completely blind to
The link above points to an interesting study of John 3:16, breaking down some of the Greek words, and their various contextual uses in scripture, such as, Kosmos(world), Pas ho(all the), but with no English equivalent, translated as, whosoever. Houtoos gar(so for), in this manner/after this fashion.
The article is lengthy, emailed to me, and is an interesting exegesis on the breakdown of John 3:16. Just thought it was interesting enough to post up, if it hasn't been already.
Trying Wrote: "There are secrets that are known to Him alone, so we should not expect to have a perfect interpretation of His doctrines - they drop as the dew, but we are often too busy shouting to hear!"
Good morning Trying, I read through your comments, and welcome to the news forum. I noticed that you've been reading for the past 18mos or so, and was surprised that you've been able to remain silent for so long, but liked the contents of the comments you've posted.
I know my use of the phrase, gray areas, is never all that popular, but I believe there are gray areas; topics; non-salvation issues in scripture that just aren't all that clear, but are argued, endlessly, even though some things just won't be made clear until we shed these earthly vehicles. On the other hand, when we're talking salvation issues, I think interpretations need to be sure, and the only "secrets", or mysteries, are those of our own making as we mix our own recipes, based upon how we may be choosing to understand, rather than what God Himself has made clear. Short of basic, deeper, honest study, I think when anyone has to work overtime, in trying to get scripture to read differently than what God has seemed to make basic and clear, that's where the mysteries emanate and evolve from.
Ladybug Wrote: "Again, direct answers please.. US - do you deny the bible teaches men are dead in trespasses and sin? Do you deny God must quicken? Do you deny salvation is by God's grace and not man's work? Do you deny that Christ laid down His life for His sheep? Do you deny that no one can come unless the Father draws? That God elects?
Does God love all? Anybody? Does God save all? Anybody? I lay down my life for my 'sheep'- is that 'all'? Jacob I loved, Esau I hated - what does that verse mean? 2 Cor. 5:19, 'To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not counting their trespasses against them'Does this verse mean the entire world will be reconciled to God, Him not counting their trespasses against them? Does 'world' mean 'all' here? Anyone?"
No! How's that for direct, and to the point?ðŸ˜Š Best I could do.
Frank Wrote: "Chris, I had never heard of or even imagined such a concept. Thanks for posting this~ Here is the link if anyone wants to watch it. Oh, I am strongly against suicide or assisted suicide. https://www.exitinternational.net/sarco/sarco-presentation-video/"
Hi Frank, me neither. I was listening to a Christian radio station yesterday morning, and this pod came up as a topic. I looked it up right away to read about it, and I was as surprised as you were. Imagine for a moment if the "Sarco" became readily available, and little Sarco, brick and mortars were set up where the downcast and brokenhearted could walk in, and never walk back out, and with a line of hurses, permanently parked at the back door for pick up, and transportation to the nearest funeral home. Should suicide become that easy, painless, and available, just imagine how many people would start taking their lives, because they're having a sad day, a difficult year, or suffered a recent break-up, etc., etc.
I suppose I went a little overboard on its future availability, but in todays climate of "My body, my choice", how long before anyone and everyone is given the legal right to just off themselves for any reason? Jack Kivorkian would be proud...
A man named, Philip Nitschke, recently created a 3D printable death pod, naming it, Sarco, because his pod of death doubles as a coffin (sarcophagus). The pod is for anyone who wants to commit suicide. A person wanting to end it all would lay down inside, close the cover, and push a button on the interior that will fill the pod with liquid nitrogen, killing them. Before the pods hatch will open, the pods artificial intelligence must approve their suicide by requiring they first take a mental capacity test-ridiculous.
Assisted suicide is on the rise, and gaining in popularity and approval around the world, even being made available to people for depression, like the recent case of a Dutch teen who just couldn't cope with life any longer. Tragic all around, as this world waxes worse and worse.
DT Wrote: "Why say "he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father" if the Father loves everybody?"
I wouldn't mind hearing the above answered.
John UK Wrote: "Besides which, a parcel has just arrived, and I must attend to its opening and see what treasures I find within."
I'm assuming you've already opened it, so no spoiler here..Surprise! I hope you enjoy, and treasure the 8x10 glossy of me. Hopefully you have a nice mantle to display it on, or I was thinking your breakfast table might be a good spot.
PA Wrote: "Would steer clear of gospel coalition, they have as one of their founding members Tim Keller a dubious character who doesnâ€™t know the Gospel nor does he proclaim it. He fancies himself a deep thinker."
Yes, and thank you. I thought the article was interesting, but someone emailed me right after warning that the editor is a sodomite, etc., so duly noted.
In April, a Chicago woman and her 24yr old daughter, lured a pregnant teen to their home to look at some baby cloths. While showing the teen a photo album of the mom's dead brother, the daughter strangled the pregnant teen to death. Then, they grabbed the butcher knife they brought with them, and cut the infant boy out of the mother, dragged the dead teen out back, and tossed her body into a trash can. I've heard this same heinous story a few times now, and each pregnant mother was lured with the promise of baby clothes, only to be hacked up, and their child stolen away. Monsters are real. Anyway, the reason I'm relating it is because the baby passed away from the trauma, and the State of IL is charging the women with the baby's murder as well now.
How does this jive with the current liberal, babys have no rights, mantra, or the fact that IL just passed the most criminal and wicked abortion bill yet? I'm glad the women are being charged, but what is this, only mothers and medical staff can commit murder, but when anyone else does, the baby is suddenly a human being that has rights, and it becomes an heinous act of savagery?
Yes, Dr Tim, I'm so glad people are finally starting to say, enough is enough. The catalyst was New York's, Cuomo, promoting, signing, and celebrating the most heinous changes to the reproductive rights bill, and the likes of New Mexico, and other States, trying to follow suit shortly after. The people are finally rising up to fight, and having more conservative judges is making an impact as well. Illinois just adopted an obscene, and criminal abortion bill as well, but the fight in this nation is finally on...
Yes John, and that's where I've always been at. We do, do...we do take action, but not by our own efforts; not by our own might, because we can't open our own eyes to see Him, and to believe. The Spirit must quicken us, The Spirit must open our eyes, soften our hearts, and give us the ability to respond, to act, to repent, to believe, and to receive. Our responses and actions are only possible, because He drew us to Him, giving us the ability to see.
Thanks John...I'll make what I was saying just a little more clear when I have time later on. I understand the two positions, in that respect, are seperate and distinctly different, so there's no wiggle room, and no lines to unblur, because they just don't jive with each other. I was talking more about actions on our part, when one side says we do nothing, while the other says, yes, we do. I'll lay that out a bit better later on.
...Do they just wake up one day, and say, "Hey, what in the world...I feel saved!", or do they wake up knowing they're saved, because the day prior, the scales fell from their eyes, and they were given the ability to believe, receive, surrender, commit...to take action; to do something, but not by their own effort?
We don't have any ability to do anything by our own efforts (Calvin)Â By His unmerited grace, He gives us the ability to do; to believe and receive (Arminius-ish)Â
This is what I meant by elements of truth in both camps,Â and where the lines blur for me.Â Am I way off base, or do both hold elements of truth? Seems to me that nothing can ever be resolved, unless the hard stands are softened, and the elements of scriptural truth from each, unblurred.
Again, just thoughts, and not trying to promote, but grasp.