Looking back through most of these posts it strikes me as if some of you claim to know the mind of God and to know His thought processes when it comes to election and or free will.
You can take statements isolated from many parts of scripture to prove both sides of the argument. That in and of itself makes it a debatable matter and by definition should not be argued over by true believers. It saddens my heart when I see and hear this.
No one and I mean no one can know for sure the dynamics involved within the Godhead in these decisions for Christ and we should leave it at that. That causes a deeper need for faith in the One that saved us and not a point to argue over.