Lurker wrote: It wasn't until the Toleration Acts of 1689 that freedom of religion became a reality in England. I'm recalling this from about 10 year old memory so if I've erred, someone please be kind enough to correct me.
If your truly interested in a challenge to your 'implied' view regarding the Toleration Acts of 1689 and freedom of religion, I might suggest your reading 'A Vindication of the Reformed Presbyterian Church in Scotland' by Peter Macindoe 1830
It seems to me if 72% of those persons over 55 aware of the KJV kept family worship then only 49 percent of their offspring were in attendance, it's more reasonable to assume that the generation that preceded the 72% aware of the KJV had better attended to their performance of family worship.
FYI the Cambridge Press is no longer printing Bibles with Psalters related to the Free Church of Scotland's decision? Freedom?
Musing over by-gone conversations led me to a number of places in the Word. For example Rev.2:12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;"
In the course of trying to better understand so many things I took comfort in the Scripture and my instruction from James Durham. To any poor sufferer related to the confusion of the times and the strong temptation to compromise, see his work on the Psalms, paying particular attention to and his opening summation of Psalm 87 and his particular comments on Psalm 137:4-6. May the Lord preserve his poor ones in the dark days ahead.
This morning I was so blessed by the excellencies of the Word of God and I was 'just thinking' relative to this dialog and Lurkers point,that as King Solomon said there is a time for every purpose under heaven. There is a time for war and a time for peace. Last Sabbath I was reading about the few times in history when the Church was raised up in her King's glory during a Reformation. At these times things were a lot more clear because the Church was in a more settled state. Men called of God have addressed this clearly in the historical testimony given by the Reformed Presbytery of Scotland in The Act Declaration and Testimony of said Church (exclusive psalmists). They were not a denomination but a remnant and met in United Societies. Lurker and Londonderry I can think of no greater way to bless you for you example then to commend this history to you for your reading. I am praying for you. Sincere thanks for your part in God's answer to prayer.
Lurker wrote: My point regarding 2 Cor 2:16 is that the Word of God produces "death unto death" by sealing the unrepentant sinner in his pre-existing state of death and condemnation.
Lurker, I was just thinking and normally that gets me in trouble but the Lord has been so kind to his fainting servant. He has again used the book of Psalms comparing Scripture with Scripture to instruct me. And I have been so encouraged and instructed by your conversation with Londonderry.
What I was thinking about was the two edged sword in the hand. If the psalmist was speaking of the two sons of oil who in the commonwealth of Israel were/are the Ministry and Magistracy; then both institutions acknowledging the Lordship of Jesus Christ, act harmoniously but separately. The saints are praising God for his glory executed by his perfect Decrees done by the works of Creation and Providence, yet consistently enough with what has been revealed in the Word for God's people to understand. Then the two edged sword in the hand belongs to the Magistrate to execute just judgment under God's moral law and the gospel of grace. The psalms are prophetic as well as prayer and that is why a woman's head is covered in worship when singing Psalms. see 2 Cor.11
Lurker wrote: The Word of God is the sharp sword which proceeds from the **mouth** of those who faithfully preach the gospel (Isaiah 49:2, Rev 19:15). It gives life while the twoedged sword is furbished for slaughter. (Ezek 21:9-10)
Thank you for the Scripture you pointed out and the explanation. I was thinking about Hebrews 4:11-13 (King James Version)but specifically v.12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Not at all contradictory to what you point out. I have also been looking in Acts about the different effects of the preaching of Peter and Steven. Peter's hearers in Acts 2:37 were pricked to the heart and Stephen's hearers in Acts 7:54 were cut to the heart and gnashed their teeth at him. Very different responses. My conclusions were lacking necessary information. Thank you. I am an exclusive psalmist and the psalms sung in worship have been very instrumental in the Lord's progressive reformation of this poor sinner.
Lurker wrote: How many of the "congregation of saints" bear a "twoedged sword" as prescribed to "execute vengeance upon the heathen"? Just curious.
If it is the Word of God that proceeds with unction from Jesus Christ the Prophet, Priest and King of His congregation Psalm 22:25-28 then his people by His Spirit pray, praise and execute the vengeance due by that Word. It is the Word that is a sharp double edge sword, on the one side to bring conviction as the searcher of hearts on the other to bring condemnation that will be executed by divine providence in time as written in the prophetic Word. Called pastors and teachers preach it and the congregation uphold them with their prayers and the prophecies recorded in the Scripture, especially those in the Psalms yet to be fulfilled.