Yes, this judge is an Obama appointee and Obama was elected by the citizens of America. Therefore the citizens are ultimately responsible for this lunacy; the Jims of this world.
And since I pay taxes, I am now paying for abortions and sex reassignment surgery. But, to the defense of all born again believers, I believe the following applies to us.
Matthew 22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? 21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. 22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.
Chris G P wrote: Interestingly, it is odd that the Hindus, who are supposed to be peaceful, pacifistic, and even usually strictly vegetarian people, seem to have renounced these principles when they are in power, and want to suppress any religious group by force and violence that threatens their monopoly, whether that group is evangelical Christian or Roman Catholic!! What happened to the dangerous yoga and meditation practices, supposedly to bring about peace and love, as taught by their gurus and â€śholy menâ€ť, and occasionally women, and that they are foisting on church halls, liberal churches, and in schools in the West that do not know any different? Let us just hope that the enthusiastic eyes of thousands of their Weatern devotees are opened whenever they get to hear of these things!! The true church of the Lord Jesus Christ will never be defeated. Praise be to God.
Yes, they can walk 280 miles, beat themselves with whips and chains, mutilate parts of their bodies and live in some monastery and it doesnâ€™t merit anything.
Yes, brother praise the Lord. All the blood and suffering that will ever be necessary was done on the cross.
There are few issues that I wonâ€™t argue in scripture, but the millennial is one of them. As you say John, people who say they take things literally differ from others who say the same thing. I am pre-millennial and my position is built around the fact that a 1,000 year period is noted over and over again. But, there are criticisms of this that I cannot answer.
John UK wrote: Endtime apostasy? Doctrines of devils?
To build on your points, I believe the closer we get to the return of Christ, we will see even more of these false churches uniting. One day it will not be permissible for a genuine church of our Lord to even fellowship publicly.
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Well this group adheres to doctrines accepted by the Wesleyan Covenant Association. This group says this:
Scripture teaches that men and women are of equal value in the eyes of God. Accordingly, the church should treat women and men equally. We believe that both women and men are called to and gifted for ordained and licensed ministry, and both genders are able to hold any role of leadership within the WCA.
And yet they also say this:
Marriage and Sexuality
We believe marriage and sexual intimacy are good gifts from God. In keeping with Christian teaching through the ages and throughout the Church universal, we believe that marriage is the uniting of one man and one woman in a single, exclusive union. We believe that God intends faithfulness in marriage and celibacy in singleness.
Now all of us wrestle with contradiction and a level of hypocrisy, but they cannot build on this foundation. And I am assuming they also adhere to works based salvation as in known among Wesleyans.
Why would any genuine Christian group want to join them. (rhetorical)
John UK wrote: "Not that He knew them and then later rejected them." Good point Frank! I remember someone from very early on in my Christian walk saying that there is a world of difference between "knowing God" and "knowing about God". Sure Christianity, in its fundamentals, is all about reconciling guilty sinners to Almighty God. "Dear God, I know that I'm a sinner....." is a great start to prayer for salvation. But many will not confess that.
Thanks brother for your very wise comment. Yes, almost everyone knows about God, but so few know Him.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mankind can fool themselves and they can fool others, but no one can fool our Lord and Savior. Notice above where Jesus ignored their testimonies and simply told them He â€śneverâ€ť knew them. Not that He knew them and then later rejected them.
Note: this comment has nothing to do with the fellow in the article; Hillsong
The Quiet Christian wrote: My God will supply all your need. Philippians 4:19 My wife and listened to a sermon from the 1950s on that verse posted here on SA. The preacher explained that the way God usually does that is thru hard work, not government socialist programs. In fact, that is how the Lord typically operates. He doesn't have to, of course, but He chooses to work thru people...no matter if they have faith in Him or not. Everyone has a purpose in God's economy. As for the socialist voice on this forum, I've seen stats recently that show that the rich aren't getting richer at the poor's expense, but that the poor are getting richer as well.
Perfectly said! And just let me add the following rhetorical question:
The more someone is given of this world, the more they are likely to love this world. So, when our Lord provides for our necessities, but does not give us abundance, is He loving us less than more?
Thanks as always Lady Virtue! I hope you are doing well and the Lord is blessing your walk with Him.
Sickening wrote: It what all you idiots deserve for your pathetic sickening turn the other cheek, resist not evil, love your enemy doctrines of pacifism. Offer your children up to the perverts you pathetic pacifists, you are showing the love of Jesus aren't you, taking up your cross aren't you, letting your "brother" sin against you 70x7 aren't you. Sick vile Christianity, no wonder once you sick people finally all bowed down to your vile pacifist doctrines all your civilizations are now over. You only ever survived because some of your ancestors actually had guts to curse the vile NT doctrines of pacifism and actually killed millions of Antichrists over millenia protecting their civilizations, without them none of you would ever even exist. Since you all now "love your enemies" and let them do such evil, you have ZERO future. BYE BYE CHRISTIANS.
I don't know who on this forum you are addressing? But, I do hope I never see another post by you. Your hatred and contempt for God's true servants is abundantly clear.
And, stop changing monikers; please. The only ones that do that are phonies.
John UK wrote: They sure do bro! We have been considering the Exodus 22 text while you were away, and I guess it is helpful, in a general sort of a way. There's no doubt some of those multitude of OT laws found their way into the UK statute books; many haven't, such as the stoning to death of disobedient children. We had a case recently in England, of an elderly farmer who was being burgled by an intruder late at night, and while he was climbing the stairs, the farmer shot his shotgun at him and killed him. It was dark, and the law process was lengthy and difficult, with folks on either side of the debate. I haven't yet stated my position on this article bro, so if you see anyone making accusations of me, they are strawmen, nothing more nothing less.
Thanks brother! We have unusual laws here. In my state, if someone "feels" their lives are in danger, then they can use lethal force. Lots of people have concealed carry permits.
I pray that I am never put into a situation where I feel my life or someone I love lives are put in danger. So far, the Lord has not allowed that to happen. Praise His holy name!!
To me the Exodus 22 verse simply means there are circumstances where killing is not murder.
Douglas Fir wrote: Yes, Frank, you have pointed out what many many churches seem to forget--God's plan is for women to be in family, and Paul's first letter to Timothy, chapter 5, talks about God's Plan for the Older Christian Woman. First, we note that she is a widow, meaning she was married at some point and her husband died. I don't see any room given for single women here, and if we think of today's society, I've read that 96 percent of people get married. Second, Paul tells Timothy that the widow's family should take care of her. If they cannot, then the church should help her, provided she has met certain 'work requirements' like doing good works, washing the feet of the saints. Younger widows should get married and raise children. It is amazing how many problems in today's society can be solved by having these guidelines followed.
Thanks and yes it appears we are in agreement. I might go further by saying the world is being run by women now and that includes the churches and the families.
For any naysayers that read this and disagree, let me say this is a general truth; not a truth in every case.
John UK wrote: Hey Frank, Pacifists, Calvinists, Arminists, Baptists? How about Disciples of Jesus Christ, the Word of God, who follow Him and His word? These are the little remnant who make it to heaven, receiving Christ the Lord, bending the knee, not loving their lives to the death. Revelation 12:11
Hey brother! Yes, I was referring to born again believers who refer to themselves as pacifists or who are pacifists. Pacifism is not a proof of Christianity. And as you know, I don't consider Calvinists, Arminists and Baptist to be synonymous with proof of Christianity.
Adriel wrote: The use of the term "pacifist" in this debate is a Red Herring of desperation. The debate is about legalising the carrying around in public of weapons, including AR-15's, to be used in lynch mob style reactions in any community. That is still uncivilised, hostile and bellicose. The civilised method would be to allow the police and relevant authorities to deal with criminal activities, as per Romans 13.
One manâ€™s red herring is another manâ€™s pre-supposition.
And, what do we do if the police aren't there and I have a carry permit and stop the murders?
Unprofitable Servant wrote: You come across two young teenage thugs beating up on an elderly lady to rob her.Â Â Do you say, I am sorry maâ€™am I cannot find any example in the New Testament where a Christian helped defend someone who was been beaten and robbed, carry on boys.Â Â Â
I agree with all of your comments that I have read. Taken to an extreme, these pacifists would not have police or military and would simply stand by while their loved ones or other helpless were being beaten, robbed, or murdered.
Perhaps I could make an argument for self-protection, but not for the protection of others.
Exodus 22:2-3 â€śIf a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder. But if it happens in daylight, the one who killed the thief is guilty of murder.â€ť
(not guilty in God's eyes)
Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Women politicians are feminists on steroids! They are thumbing their noses at the God of the bible and accepting their cultural/political god.
Children should be raised and nurtured by their mother. The fact that their lifestyles may be lowered is not a legitimate issue. Warrenâ€™s position is simply saying; â€śit is okay for moms to go out and workâ€ť instead of staying home and doing their God ordained roles as wives and mothers.
Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Proverbs 22:6 - Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Hillaryâ€™s infamous statement â€śit takes a villageâ€ť is being played out.
Michael McClain, the longtime pastor of the historic Liberty Hill Missionary Baptist Church in Catawba, South Carolina, has been hired by former Vice President Joe Bidenâ€™s local campaign to help woo the powerful bloc of churchgoing voters ahead of that stateâ€™s 2020 Democratic presidential primary.
He further argued that Bidenâ€™s Catholicism aligns closely with how blacks in South Carolina practice their faith.
Above is of course from the article.
Any pastor that would endorse Biden to the extent that they assign Christian salvation or morality to him in spite of his clear unbiblical stances on so many issues is simply a hireling and should never be thought of as being a Christian pastor.
And, let me add this; any person that is persuaded to believe that Biden can represent Christianity is simply a Christian in name only.
We have red light cameras in my city, and I have never heard of accuracy complaints. One time we loaned our car to our grandson and he went through a red light. They sent us an internet link where we could view the incident. We did and he clearly went through a red light. We had to pay a 150 dollar fine.
I donâ€™t think they were installed to improve safety, but to get more revenue and it worked.
Well for the record, I also believe that self-defense using a gun is justified biblically. If someone breaks into my house, I will shoot them until they stop. I canâ€™t imagine giving them the opportunity to harm my wife. If I had a carry permit and saw someone about to harm an innocent person, I would also shoot them.
I would hope they didn't die, but if they did, it would be their fault, not mine.
John UK wrote: Someone told me it wouldn't be safe to shop anywhere, at least not without the mark of the beast. There's a huge financial computer complex in Luxembourg called The Beast. Oh, that's where PayPal is HQ'd isn't it? Makes me larf.
Brother JohnUK, very interesting about the beast computer. I wonder if they named it that to be controversial. Iâ€™ll bet they did.
Sorry, below is off topic.
The U.S. used nuclear weapons in WW2 because we were the only ones that could use them. IOW, we didnâ€™t have to ponder a nuclear retaliation.
NK has nuclear weapons but so do so many other nations. If he used them, then he and his cruel regime would cease to exist. The only ones who might use nuclear weapons are the crazy Muslims who believe a world catastrophe would usher in their 12th Imam.
Kim is one of the most ruthless leaders that have ever existed. Why anyone would actually trust him in any way is beyond me. He will never get rid of his nuclear arsenal regardless of what he says. They put him on center stage and nothing else could.