The offer is to the "world" and to "whosoever." If Jesus meant the elect he could have just said it.

The Dehvastating Truth is that he does not only say it here, but he never in all of his discourses mentions it. In fact there is nowhere in the Scripture where salvation is clearly taught that gives any hint of it being particular to the elect.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world..."

That's why you need to stop basing your theology on deductive reasoning.

If you do not agree with the pastor, the solution is simple: Find a different church.

Oh, wretched sinner out there, if I am the only one in here you will here this from, so be it, but listen clear.

God loves you. Yes you. He died for you! He desires YOU to repent and come to his loving arms. There is no sin too deep where his grace cannot reach.

One of the pillars of the baptist is the autonomy of the local church. They would never submit themselves to such church polity as the one you prescribe. Otherwise they would not be Baptists.

A convention is nothing more than a club. There are benefits to being perks the church gets for being part of it. There is no hierachy like the presbyterian form of government.

The only thing that the churches who left will suffer is the perks that came along with being part of the convention.

But if you want to believe otherwise, then it makes no difference to me. Maybe you would stop complaining about Baptists not having no accountability now since most Baptists churches are part of one form of convention or other.

It's called allowing God to mean what he states and state what he means.

The question is if he is sovereign enough for the Calv's to allow him to speak for himself and accepting the fact that he means what he states and states what he means.

R. K. Borill wrote:
To My Calvinist Brethren,

lol

To the rest, of the post I say: Ha!

You may want to rephrase the original post that you gave me. You can either ask one question at a time or do not phrase it as if you are trying to answer your own question and asking me whether I agree with your answer.

What is faith?

According to Hebrews 11:1 I believe faith is a sincere belief and dependence on the promise of God based on objective revelation that moves one to a positive response.

But to state that I did not answer is quite disingeneous in your part.

If you do not like a "yes" or "no" answer then do not ask a "yes" or "no" question.

God states what he means and means what he states.

I hate to break it to you but "calling" does not equal "salvation." The only dictionary that would define it as such would be the one found in the F_anciful L_and of the Calvinist. Once again you fall into your zealous trap of fabricating meaning to words that do not exist anywhere except within your own theological system.

Do not worry. I understand that I am irrisistible.

I Corinthians 1:26-28 has nothing to do with salvation, let alone unconditional election. Salvation has nothing to do with fools and wise. God saves both. Read it for yourself.

R. K. Borill wrote:
Yamil has failed to answer the question except with more evidence of his being confused.

"No. It is not so with me. But yes, I agree with your analysis, although you did not even answer your own question."

terry evans wrote:
Notice the Bible did not say He ( as in Christ) but small h he (as in man)
A complete 180 from the way your looking at things.

The Bible makes it very clear that Jesus Christ is the firstborn in the family of God.