Is God revealing the wickedness of the haitans and the us govt, the one locking them up and the other ignoring their plight ? Its hard to imagine this happening 50 yrs ago i imagine that the us govt would have sorted out the haitans PDQ

or are we to understand this another way ? God sent the earthquakes and is angry with haiti so dont interfere ?

or are we to understand this as a comment on mainstream churchianity ? I dont believe this myself but........

i think myself that the wickedness of the us govt and the haitans is being exposed but im open to ideas..........

jpw wrote:
Prince Charles isn't the one I would be calling in time of need! You know that "love your neighbor" line, now who was it that said that?????

i saw that hilary clinton witch creature on tele and she isnt doing anything to help them, i think given that the whole island is a nest of devil worshippers that the usa govt should say release those people or else, maybe they were a little foolish and i only say maybe but it doesnt warrant them being locked up the us govt should come to the rescue and demand their release these charges are malicious under the circumstances if i were the president they would be free and home by now !

theoldpathsaffirmed wrote:
Have a study and see what you think

thanx mike your very kind i sometimes write a bit tongue in cheek if you know what i mean.

I donnt know if the KJ is without error i dont know enough about it but I am increasingly aware of errors in the niv which are serious im afraid
such as: NIV says abraham was told to kill isaac which isnt true its not a question of traditions but sound doctrine vs false teaching

Michael Hranek wrote:
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
KJV
The Tradition of the Pharisee made them imagine they lived for God.

a false comparison

Mike wrote:
So angry! The hostility is not very far beneath the surface, is it prince? Tell me, with all the confidence you say you have in the One Version, and since you think every event that occurs is God's doing, where is your joy in knowing he must know what he's doing, even now?

There is a down side, I cant find many people that are like me in the last 3 years and I worry about my 'final exam'

if you mock the translators of the KJV without cause such as suggesting their praying was for vanity cant i employ a similar device ?

or if you caricature KJO churches cant i do the same ?

The church i go to has windows and uses the NIV and even has some free will arminists in it !

John UK wrote:
I see Charles Spurgeon is an evangelist with [URL=http://www.charitybaptist.org/evangelists-missionaries/david-spurgeon.shtml]]]Charity Baptist Church[/URL] which is evidently one of those KJO churches, as it is written into their confession of belief and practise.

Spot on Alan H i would say thats a fair take on the situation im cutting and pasting the

So the KJ translators prayed for three hours so they would look good ! of course and there was me thinking they prayed together so the HS would help them in their work what a gullible fool ive been !

Yes thats us KJ people, a windowless church is a must, i would never go to a church with windows, a church with windows means only one thing in my experience - there will be a sign with the words 'welcome' somewhere on it, it will be packed to the rafters with evolutionists and God loves everybody merchants eager to shake your hand and befriend you - eeeucch !

the kjv was translated by scholars who prayed for three hours every day before they started work

no contest

will the son of man find faith upon the earth when he returns ?

its obvious within the context of 1cor13 that charity is the obvious descriptor, anyway agape means love which overlooks, love despite, such as our redeemer has fastened upon us

in america they have KJV only churches, ive never even been to one here

everyone having NIV is like almost well weve got to have a bible tho we'd rather not so lets have one that tells lies about God

The K J reads, "In whom we have redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD, even the forgiveness of sins:" Colossians 1:14.

The NIV reads, "In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins."

ONLY thru the shedding of blood is there forgiveness

And JOSEPH and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him." Luke 2:33.

NIV "The CHILD'S FATHER and mother marveled at what was said about him."

BLASPHEMY ! a thousand times NO

Mike wrote:
Guess the HS wasn't with him.

Also Paul uses hyperbole in the text which a lot of folk dont get either for some reason, and they dont like it much when you suggest that paul has used it and even less when you suggest that Jesus used it as well as sarcasm (shock horror !)

TBN wrote:
That's right.
Love your pastor, obey your pastor.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

more i think about these things i think more about doing my own church i begin to see the modern church as doing a great job of concealing the true Gospel, misleading the seekers, codifying and confusing Gods word, excluding the sinners, why are the people in church not the same as the ones outside ? more to the point why arent the sinners in church more like the sinners outside ?

there is a selective church mentality one guy told me that Gomer wasnt a prostitute ! The word clearly says that hosea was told to marry a whore called Gomer to teach israel something but this guy didnt like it cos (naughty ) God isnt suppose to do things like that, well He did so get understand it instead of telling lies about Gods Word
truth is i suspect that churches dont want the unwashed

John UK wrote:
Charles, I moved over 200 miles to join a church in Wales which was supposed to be a staunch AV church.

p.s. The word is correctly translated 'charity' by our Reformed AV translators, and this conveys the exact meaning of Paul's discourse.

Why must it be that we must suffer this disapointment when we seek only that which is right and what we hold better than our necessary food ?

We want to feed on Gods word and taste heaven and share fellowship with similarly called souls but we are continually asked to dine upon the condiments and trifles when we want the real thing.

I dunno is it my fault ? Are we being called to be bold and not trusting in God sufficiently ? Its very mysterious and I feel sorry for you being let down perhaps even deceived.

most preachers here in uk are throly infected with new age gospel and think u r a nutter if u only want kjv but this is serious business its eternity

Lurker wrote:
Deu 32:39 See now that I, [even] I, [am] he, and [there is] no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither [is there any] that can deliver out of my hand.
Exd 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:
I don't believe these preachers of prosperity gospel have any idea what is in store for them when the time comes that they have to answer to the holy and righteous God for teaching so many souls to trust in a lie and believe in a god other than the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

It's a faith that leaps barriers: as the Haitian saying goes, people here are "60 per cent Catholic, 40 per cent Protestant and 100 per cent voodoo."

Ha and they called that robertson chappie 'sanctimomious' he is right !

according to the article there is renewed interest in voodoo after the quake

mmmm perhaps maybe the baptist dogoodnicks could say that God sent the quakes ?

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