Thanks Michael Hranek for your kind words to Timmy. I came back to God(I had been backsliden and out of Church for years) when I went to my mother-in-laws old timey pentecostal church and found my way back to God. It doesn't matter what Church you find God in and get saved in and that's all that is important..that you got saved!
By the way the first was raised in that town and his father had been an Assembly of God preacher and had died of a heart attack so I could listen to his preaching it was not like a Methodist because he was raised in an Assembly. The story is too long to tell how he became a preacher at the Methodist Church. He moved away and started a Christian School with a church that he preached at.
Barry, please don't think I am condemning the whole group of Methodists because there are true belivers that go there..what I know of them is from my past when I was about 20 yrs old. They had a great pastor at first. I was new in this town and my husband knew the pastor and suggested I go there and it was great..I questioned some things in their literature but when he moved and another pastor came he preached that Jesus was not born of a virgin..he explained away all the miracles in the Bible. A group of us started our own Bible Studies and met in each others homes to keep the faith pure and true.Some in the Church got angry at us for not accepting him. They believe in basically the Bible was written by men so there is error in somethings that are in there. I believe these men that wrote the BIBLE were inspired and lead by the Holy Spirit with no errors. Other preachers came after him but I got concerned about my small children learning to doubt God's word and God led me to a more godly church that was closer to my beliefs. Thanks for asking Barrry..hope it helped some.
rted our own Blble classes and we met at each others to keep the faith up so to speak. Well
I saw a movie a few nights ago about Joan of Arc because it would be a clean movie. It had spots of dirty scenes but mostly ok. The thing is she said God spoke to her and told her to go and save France which she did after seeing visions and instructions from God. Then the Catholic Church that she loved from childhood turned on her because the Priest decided she was speaking heresy..not from God and burned her at the stake because THEY judged her to be demon possessed even after all she said came to pass. I had to buy the book because of the movies adding stuff not true. Did this really happen the way I put it because I have 300 more pages to go..and this what's happening today. Our church have people leaving because of the pastor firing without explantion to the people. All hush, hush..the Pentacost been attacked as never before that I've seen in my lifetime..Gays coming out and are now harassing Christians..christians harrressing and condenming each other and the Church they belong to a lot of scoffing going on.Satan knows he has a short time and he's on the prowl.I'm even wondering what's with my new credit card having a chip in it..I'm so paranoid now that I'm thinking 666 will be next. ?.
I saw David Wilkerson weep while he was talking about some in the charismatic movement do damage by their false representation of the Holy Spirit by their ungodly behavior..he said some were slithering on the floor and hissing like a snake. It broke his heart to see this. I knew some charismatics but I was not one of those. At one time I was in a penetacostal church..but I see more error in the United Methodist Church than I ever saw in the penecost church. Unless you see that Christians today need the gifts of the Holy Spirit more than ever and where did it say they are no longer needed so they are no longer here?!
Chris, I don't care if Jim is a Free Mason or not because my brother-in-law was one until he died and even a Shriner and the did good works in Tuscaloosa, Al. We have a Shriners Hospital in Shreveport, La that treats children. I was only asking because Penny wanted to know and he never said "no" that's all..actually he is so perfect and goes to the right church that I was curious to see if he would admit to it..I told you that God moved me out of the penecostal church because of the works they depend on for salvation and I left. However, I cannot say they have strange fire or whatever the judges say on this forum..our pastor preached on this very topic today and made some sense but still I will not throw the baby out with the bath water.I had an experience with God in that Church that had nothing to do with salvation..it changed my life, and gave me boldness to witness, gave a closeness to God(who at one time seemed up in the sky looking down at me) that I have never lost all these years..a power I never had before to face whatever came to me..I am not saying that other churches are wrong like they do and as so many on this forum keeps doing over and over..to these people stop trying to put God in your little box.
I'm beginning to see a little of what Jesus must have went through listening to the teachers of that day, the Pharisees,saying He was a demon, a blasphemer who called Himself the son of God! How can you judge a whole movement by a few who maybe (I can't say because I don't see their heart only God can) lost and a fake..and Jim Lincoln I still haven't heard you say",No I am not a free mason". My son was at one time and got out because as a Christian he could not agree with them on certain things. Have any of you that disagree with this Penecostal movement ever been in their church or known any of them personally? Like I said God moved me out because I could not see all the things they saw as wrong and I am judged as lost by some of the more strict ones. All other religions are wrong and lost just as they are judged by these religions as demon possessed, lost, greedy even though the marjority are not even rich as the televalists are and don't care for them either.
Cont.Didn't the Pharisees say the same thing about Jesus? Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute;and He healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw.And all the multitudes were amazed and said, "Could this be the Son of David?" Now when the Pharirsees heard it they said, "This fellow does not cast out demons except by Belzebub, the ruler of the demons.Matt:22-24..Jesus goes on to explain how ridiclous that would be..in vs31 "Therefore,I say to you,every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit willnot be forgiven men.vs32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven him;but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come". So even though I don't attend the Penecostal church I in no way condemn them as having "strange fire" and God has used my experiences to help others that are seeking more of Him.There are false prophets in all movements ( tares among the wheat) even in Pauls day.
Joel Osteen's father was a powerful, sin condemning Pentacostal preacher and his son is not but both will be condemned because they are from the same movement. You tend to condemn what you don't understand. I was raised by a Methodist mother a very devote Christian. As a young girl I started walking to the Baptist Church and loved it, however, I had never heard much taught about the Holy Spirit until I married into a Pentacostal family and learned about the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. I've attended different ones and never witnessed what some talk about as Holy Rollers etc.I have seen the power of God move at times. I had been in a backslidden condition for years and couldn't seem to find my way back to God. I came back to God in that little Pentacostal Church. Later by my bed one night I asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit and I was. That was at age 20 and I have never once wanted to go back into a life without Him. Don't judge the whole movement by a few false prophets. There are some very strong Christian people in this movement,one being David Wilkerson who has done more for the teens on drugs etc.through his Teen Challenge Ministry,his work with gangs in New York. He tells his story in The Cross and the Switchblade which was made into a movie and Pat Boone played him. I'
Will, I'll be looking forward to more post from the y generation and you sound like you will be giving some interesting posts. At least it will give us older posters a chance to hear from the younger folks and maybe a fresh look at things going on around us.
Well welcome Will, knew you were from the deep south because you used my favorite word( ya'll).. I still call Alabama home and I still say ya'll even though I'm a cowgirl from Texas now. I think your post is great. My two cents is what better way to spend your money than reminding people there is another side to the story and what a clever way to say it. So kudos to mr.Ham and two thumbs up!!
The darker the world around us the brighter our light will shine. We read things like this and it causes us to want to continue to "run the race with patience, to fight the fight" as Paul said. Also we have a "cloud of witnesses, watching us, cheering us on" Hebrews 11 the faith chapter. The homosexuals do what they do because they can..because they are given the green light by a leader that has no morals a government that allows him to be a "loose cannon". They feel powerful now and are using that power to harass those who dare oppose them..the labor pains are getting closer together and harder.Things are waxing worse and worse.
Btw..I had not been born when my sister died as a baby at age 15 months..I was born 14 yrs. later.It caused my mother to go in a deep depression which caused my sister who was only afew years older some damage also, I'm sure.I'm telling you your insight is from God and He wants at peace with this and finally I am!
Every thing you wrote is how I feel.God keeps bringing me back to my sisters life as I knew from bits and pieces that mama told me. Daddy had a terrible temper and he was so mean to her and mom. When I came along he was older and more mello.I was afaid of him and never sassed him. He had his demons also but I believe he truly loved us as much as he could..I had a baby sister that died of diptheria and you could hear her labored breathing and my dad passed out when she was dying,( she died at home).There was depression in our family and most of the family are on meds for it including my sister.She seemed to really know God and like you I feel that God has been trying to reassure me of her salvation and you writting what you did and you reading the comments of Josephus was no accident it was from God..believe me He has brought me through so much and given me wisdom. I can't believe how you have changed in your thinking lately. I do not judge others hearts..I don't know what God knows..His love is so awesome. My dad got saved afew months before he died. A preach sent to him by my brother-in- law..he was asked if he was saved and usually he would say yes but this time he said and the preacher led him to the Lord.Thanks for sharing with me and the reassurance.Btw my sister was so muc
Btw..I believe the Harlot Church will be the Church made up of the World Council Churches..United Methodist etc.I went to a Methodist Church for a fewr years and was shocked at how they believed..the preacher would preach on Jesus not really born of a virgin..tore apart and explained away all the miracles. So there was a group of us that got together and met once a week led by me from a Baptist back ground. There will always be a remnant that God will have in every church, every demonation that have not bowed to Baal..I was led out by God because of my wanting to go where my kids could be raised in my beliefs..others raised in that church stayed and was light and salt.I certaintly don't judge them for staying..still hear from them even though I have moved on.
John, it would be really hard for me to hate the RCC, I have friends that are Catholic..there is a Catholic Hospital in our town along with another Hospital..our family always chooses St. Michael's when needed. Years ago I had major surgery and the Nuns were so kind to me..crosses in every room..made my recovery so much easier. Had cancer in 2004..my doctor wanted to send me anywhere I wanted..MD Anderson..Little Rock..I had already prayed about it..told God to show through my dr. where to go and said "I send my patients to Dr. Conners in Shreveport, La".It was a Catholic Cancer Center..best decision ever to go there..my dr.helped me get through those 5 yrs...every year I get a letter from that hospital asking me to answer guestions about my well being now..last check-up..what was the result etc. Nope can't hate the RCC..my son is a CRNA there now ( was at Baptist Hospitable in Little Rock) much happier here in his home town working at this hospitable.